Plant-based food is woke?

[Feronar]

My problem with livestock-based protein is that they require disproportionate amounts of resources to produce. They take up nearly 80% of the global agriculture land area and produce less than 20% of the world's supply of calories. In the US, urban areas take up 3.6% of the land, crops for direct human consumption 20%, crops for animal feed and grazing land a whopping 41%. Iowa and Texas are the 2nd and 3rd agricultural states after California, and 90% of the crops produced there are for livestock consumption.

That is a misleading, gross oversimplification. For example, most of the plant food produced for livestock consumption is a byproduct of plant food produced for human consumption, and is inedible or indigestible by humans. Humans can only digest the corn kernels, the husk and the rest of the plant are indigestible to humans and would otherwise go to waste if not fed to livestock. It's a similar story with other food crops.

[Rasulis]

That is a misleading, gross oversimplification. For example, most of the plant food produced for livestock consumption is a byproduct of plant food produced for human consumption, and is inedible or indigestible by humans. Humans can only digest the corn kernels, the husk and the rest of the plant are indigestible to humans and would otherwise go to waste if not fed to livestock. It's a similar story with other food crops.

According to Iowa Corn.

• Only one percent of corn planted in the United States is sweet corn.
• 99 percent of corn grown in Iowa is “Field Corn”. When Iowa’s corn farmers deliver corn from the field, it’s “Field Corn”. Not the delicious sweet corn you might enjoy on the cob or in a can.
• Field corn is the classic big ears of yellow dented corn you see dried and harvested in the fall. It’s called “dent corn” because of the distinctive dent that forms on the kernel as the corn dries.
• While a small portion of “Field Corn” is processed for use as corn cereal, corn starch, corn oil and corn syrup for human consumption, it is primarily used for livestock feed, ethanol production and manufactured goods. It’s considered a grain.
• Sweet corn is what people purchase fresh, frozen or canned for eating. It’s consumed as a vegetable. Unlike “Field Corn”, which is harvested when the kernels are dry and fully mature, sweet corn is picked when immature.

The same goes for alfalfa grown in the US. The vast majority is used for livestock feed.

I have never tried it. However, my wife is from Illinois. According to her, field corn is pretty much inedible as far as human consumption is concerned. Like eating cardboard.

[Cynical Asshole]

No. Food is food. No one should be judged based on what food they prefer.

However, that becomes a problem when ACTIVISM is involved. "Eat the bugs, you planet destroyer!". And of course only the peasants should eat the bugs, highly unlikely Bill Gates will go anywhere near it. Always the peasants have to obey. The Prohibition? Only the peasants weren't allowed to drink, the nobles had the whiskey on their tables in plain sight. The lockdowns? Only the peasants had to stay in their homes, the nobles partied and were often exposed for doing so by the media. Crickets? Only the peasants have to eat bugs and worms, the nobles will continue to enjoy their pork and beef.

EAT THE BUGS, PEASANTS!

[Freighter]

No. Food is food. No one should be judged based on what food they prefer.

However, that becomes a problem when ACTIVISM is involved. "Eat the bugs, you planet destroyer!". And of course only the peasants should eat the bugs, highly unlikely Bill Gates will go anywhere near it. Always the peasants have to obey. The Prohibition? Only the peasants weren't allowed to drink, the nobles had the whiskey on their tables in plain sight. The lockdowns? Only the peasants had to stay in their homes, the nobles partied and were often exposed for doing so by the media. Crickets? Only the peasants have to eat bugs and worms, the nobles will continue to enjoy their pork and beef.

EAT THE BUGS, PEASANTS!

Do you realize that in other cultures on the planets insects are already treated as food?

[Cynical Asshole]

Do you realize that in other cultures on the planets insects are already treated as food?

And the Chinese eat dogs and cats. Hell, the Chinese eat anything that is organic in nature, even human fetuses (no, this isn't country-bashing, they actually do that, mr. moderator, look it up before infracting me). Would you eat cats and dogs?

Being compelled to do it through social media activism and government measures, is where the line should be drawn.

[Freighter]

And the Chinese eat dogs and cats. Hell, the Chinese eat anything that is organic in nature, even human fetuses (no, this isn't country-bashing, they actually do that, mr. moderator, look it up before infracting me). Would you eat cats and dogs?

Being compelled to do it through social media activism and government measures, is where the line should be drawn.

What the hell are you even talking about? They don't eat human fetus.

[UnifiedDivide]

What the hell are you even talking about? They don't eat human fetus.

Probably thought this was actually real lol

[Cynical Asshole]

What the hell are you even talking about? They don't eat human fetus.

Probably thought this was actually real lol

https://theseoultimes.com/ST/?url=/S...d.php?idx=7333


And I wasn't referring to that link. I know that artist wanted to raise awareness against cannibalism. Hmm...makes you wonder why would a person want to raise awareness about something if the subject in question isn't real.

Don't kid yourself. If something, anything, exists and is organic, the Chinese will either eat it or make dick medicine out of it. ANYTHING.

[Feronar]

Do you realize that in other cultures on the planets insects are already treated as food?

Not typically by choice. They eat insects because they are unable to afford, or are otherwise unable to access meat reliably. As soon as you introduce a stable, reliable source of meat, insect consumption drops off a cliff.

[Clone]

Anything not the norm for these people is woke.

[Coolface330]

Sure, I'll try.

Woke is defined by a lack of self respect - appology culture, guilt culture.

"I'm so sorry I was born! I'm so sorry about the past!" What did you personally do? Nothing? Lol. Taking the blame for the sin of others, whatever.

Plant based food is future food. We are in the early stages of the future. So it's one of the byproducts.

It also depends on who's doing the talking, like anything in Politics.

You ask anyone, what is mass produced cereal and chips in America? They call it Junk Food. Poisonous food. It can kill you.

You ask anyone, what is mass produced candy in Japan? "Oh my God, it's so futuristic! Check out the packaging."

How to spot liars - something I call Universal Application. Can it work anywhere else, or can it only exist in this one area, under these circumstances only, like a mental delusion.

[Frontenac]

People can be woke, not things. And not all progressive people are "woke." Like not all conservative people are "fascist" or anti-science. "Woke", like "fascist" is so easily used by the opposing faction that it loses its descriptive power.

Plant-based food is just another option added to our menu. You can still eat meat and eat these products. Although I'm not. Tofu, seitan, maybe, but these false-meat like "BeyondMeat"? No. Because just looking at how they are made make me sick... Some of them are so transformed and full of salt that I'd rather eat a good juicy steak. And I've eaten some "tofu-dogs" and like the proverbial raven, I say "Nevermore."

[The Stormbringer]

Sure, I'll try.

Woke is defined by a lack of self respect - appology culture, guilt culture.

"I'm so sorry I was born! I'm so sorry about the past!" What did you personally do? Nothing? Lol. Taking the blame for the sin of others, whatever.

I know this is an older post but, I just have to ask... are you a Christian? It's cool if you're not, but Jesus Christ quite literally (according to Christian myths at least) died for the sins of others. He took on the blame of Original Sin and died to have it forgiven. So, the concept of 'taking the blame for others' seems like something that should be very popular in the US, a country that supposedly has a massive Christian population.

Unless, y'know, most of them aren't actually Christian at all and just identify as such. Weird.

[Flarelaine]

Please refrain from discussing religion.

[Cthulhu 2020]

So Chick-fil-a, having made their bed with bigots, racists, and other intolerant types, is offering plant based "chicken" sandwiches. (Cauliflower actually)

The reaction from the fuckboy squad is about what you'd expect.

https://gizmodo.com/conservative-con...dwi-1850100961

The crowd that is cosntantly talking about how the other side are snowflakes are sure acting a lot like snowflakes themselves.

[mbit2]

What's wrong with eating insects?

Chitin is an allergen and there is even a warning label because of that on the products because of that.

Also because insects will eat anything they often get fed with garbage since its cheaper so more profit. All you got to do is check asian countries since they got plenty experience. This is not a new unique problem either. Our western fish farms selling you "high quality" did same scam feeding the fish feed with crap because they apparently didn't get audits on what the fish feed eats.

And to make it more than just theory: EU legalized last month to stretch breadth,pizza,... with insects

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

Chitin is an allergen and there is even a warning label because of that on the products because of that.

So are peanuts.

Also because insects will eat anything they often get fed with garbage since its cheaper so more profit. All you got to do is check asian countries since they got plenty experience. This is not a new unique problem either. Our western fish farms selling you "high quality" did same scam feeding the fish feed with crap because they apparently didn't get audits on what the fish feed eats.

That's a problem with capitalism...not insects.

[mbit2]

So are peanuts.

Peanuts arent put in breadth and pasta... the basic issue is can you still trust the food? And the answer is no cause they legalized safety standards away.

[diller]

Would you eat cats and dogs?

If I had to, yes - people in the western world also ate dogs from time to time not that long ago - there is absolutely nothing different from eating dogs/cats to eating cows.

The only reason it's taboo is because they are considered pets now, the same thing is happening with horses although they are still being eaten many places.

[Muzjhath]

Horse prepared correctly is delicious.