Dahmer – Monster: The Jeffrey Dahmer Story[Netflix]

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Dahmer – Monster: The Jeffrey Dahmer Story is an American limited biographical crime drama series co-created by Ryan Murphy and Ian Brennan, premiered on Netflix on September 21, 2022. The series follows the murders of infamous serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer, portrayed by Evan Peters, and is told from his victims' point of view.

Accidentally stumbled into this one and it's actually quite good. Evan Peters is great as Dahmer.
Wonder if Murphy will make more of these about other serial killers.

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Big fan of these kind of shows. I absolutely devoured Mindhunter and was really disappointed when Season 3 was put on indefinite hold. This should help fill the void.

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This show is good as a reminder of what Dahmer actually was: a human monster. Media in the past, mostly documentaries and a certain film (the Jeremy Renner one), often try to shine sympathetic lights on him.


Him being regretful of his crimes is one thing. Him knowing full and well what he was doing, that he wanted to do it, is another. Sad that it took him being caught for him to feel bad. I hope this new series reminds people of the monster he was.

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Finished it now. I can see new seasons of this. They already teased Ed Gein and John Wayne Gacy.

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The only problem I have with this is that Dahmer's victims didn't want this story to be told, or their testimony recreated, but because they don't really have rights over public footage from a trial, Netflix just ignored them.

Not to mention the whole true crime genre is just overly voyeuristic to me. Mindhunter, while based on true serial killers, is highly fictionalized and scripted - that's about as far as I'd care to go. This "reality TV" type soft documentary/recreations is....gross, imo. If you're not a hard documentary just showing actual footage, what's the purpose of the recreation except to titillate?

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The only problem I have with this is that Dahmer's victims didn't want this story to be told, or their testimony recreated, but because they don't really have rights over public footage from a trial, Netflix just ignored them.

Not to mention the whole true crime genre is just overly voyeuristic to me. Mindhunter, while based on true serial killers, is highly fictionalized and scripted - that's about as far as I'd care to go. This "reality TV" type soft documentary/recreations is....gross, imo. If you're not a hard documentary just showing actual footage, what's the purpose of the recreation except to titillate?

That, n stuff like this might inspire next killer?

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If we had to wait until everyone connected to horrible events is dead before we make artistic depictions of those events then we'd all have missed out on a lot of great art. I'm gonna go and watch this now before some fuckers get it cancelled.

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That, n stuff like this might inspire next killer?

Funny you say that in this series. Stuff like video games, comics, live television, pornography etc. Blaming it on everything except for the obvious fact that Dahmer always was a sick fuck and it didn't help his dad taught him how to dissect roadkill on a very young age.

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The wikipedia article was enough to make me nauseous...and glad he was dead. I sure as hell don't want to see some production making money from such shit.

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I sure as hell don't want to see some production making money from such shit.

Oh, you're one of THOSE guys.

The "Let's hide history away because it's triggering" and "Let's erase the existence of certain oppressed people from everywhere because seeing them and knowing they were oppressed is triggering" people.

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It's ok, morbid curiosity - a completely normal psychological trait - is beneath some people and they have to let everyone know. Films about wars where millions died and the Holocaust happened = great. A show about one dude who killed some people = an affront to humanity. Kek.

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It's ok, morbid curiosity - a completely normal psychological trait - is beneath some people and they have to let everyone know. Films about wars where millions died and the Holocaust happened = great. A show about one dude who killed some people = an affront to humanity. Kek.

Maybe because those movies involve a lot of waving the Stars and Stripes?
Serial killers have always interested me. It's fascinating how someone can turn into a monster. This series also made me feel gutted for the victims families because its mostly filmed out of the victims perspective, something those documentaries hardly ever show.
And no, although I might have had a thought about killing someone, at my 40 years of age, I haven't killed anyone.

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Oh, you're one of THOSE guys. The "Let's hide history away because it's triggering" and "Let's erase the existence of certain oppressed people from everywhere because seeing them and knowing they were oppressed is triggering" people.

You obviously know nothing of my previous posts regarding education, especially regarding history. So stop pretending.

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It's ok, morbid curiosity - a completely normal psychological trait - is beneath some people and they have to let everyone know. Films about wars where millions died and the Holocaust happened = great. A show about one dude who killed some people = an affront to humanity. Kek.

Oh for fucks sake..why on earth do you believe that a production should benefit from such you can easily learn about for free?

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Oh for fucks sake..why on earth do you believe that a production should benefit from such you can easily learn about for free?

The question you seem to be asking is why should production companies make money from depicting things that I can already read about? If that's the case then you're basically arguing against every adaptation and recreation ever made.

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That, n stuff like this might inspire next killer?

Eh, I don't believe that violent video games inspire violence, or movies. A documentary? Maybe, but the type of copycats who are obsessed with paying homage to serial killers they love weren't gonna be pushed over the edge by a Netflix re-enactment 40 years after the fact.

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It's ok, morbid curiosity - a completely normal psychological trait - is beneath some people and they have to let everyone know. Films about wars where millions died and the Holocaust happened = great. A show about one dude who killed some people = an affront to humanity. Kek.

I mean, fwiw, even a film like Schindler's List is something I watched once, and then put it away forever. I guess I don't have that morbid curiosity, I don't think it's some sort of attempt at virtuosity, I just think it's weird that people do this. I also don't slow down at accidents and rubberneck either, so I guess I'm just an emotionless robot.

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Also, I disagree that morbid curiosity is a "completely normal psychological trait." I think people who have accepted death as a part of life and are well-adjusted don't need to dwell on it or indulge in it. That says the opposite of "normal psychological trait" to me, frankly. And I was pretty goth back in the day, but never constantly needing to immerse myself in a fascination with death.

Also, it isn't part of our animal nature, either. Animals avoid their own dead as much as possible. Some highly social animals, like elephants, will grieve openly for awhile, and then...leave.

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Because of that last episode, its going to spin off and do John Wayne Gacy

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Because of that last episode, its going to spin off and do John Wayne Gacy

Or Ed Gein, who was seen earlier.

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Also, I disagree that morbid curiosity is a "completely normal psychological trait." I think people who have accepted death as a part of life and are well-adjusted don't need to dwell on it or indulge in it. That says the opposite of "normal psychological trait" to me, frankly. And I was pretty goth back in the day, but never constantly needing to immerse myself in a fascination with death.

Research suggests otherwise. And I think there is quite some distance between being at ease with topics and material related to death, and having a need to be constantly immersed in it.

As for the show. I'm 4 episodes in and it's very good but not an easy watch at times. Evan Peters' performance is excellent and so damn creepy. The direction and cinematography are great. Being 35, Peters doesn't pass well as the teenage Dahmer in school. Not quite as bad as obviously-not-a-teen Joe Keery in Stranger Things but still noticeable.

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It was pretty good but I felt it stuck a little too much with the “structural racism” issue.
It took over imo. Would’ve been better if we didn’t have to get lectured about how bad white people are and how good black people are in yet another show/movie.

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It was pretty good but I felt it stuck a little too much with the “structural racism” issue.
It took over imo. Would’ve been better if we didn’t have to get lectured about how bad white people are and how good black people are in yet another show/movie.

...one of Dahmer's victims escaped and police literally handed him back to Dahmer because they didn't believe him. Whether it was because the victim was a black man, or because Dahmer claimed he was just an upset boyfriend and the cops didn't want to be entangled in a potential gay domestic situation, there was definitely some structural, systematic neglect.

He wasn't caught for so long because his victims were predominantly black, and no one cared.

It's not like they're bringing up structural racism willy nilly in, say, the Zodiac Killer case.