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    Another thing I found a little strange, was how careless She-Hulk is. She is a lawyer, one of the Best Female Lawyers of the Year. Yet had no second thought to destroying private and public property. She doesn't have a disguise, so any witnesses or video evidence of her throwing cars, and smashing property would be undoubtedly damning. As a lawyer, you'd think it would be something she would be very careful of. I get the later scene where she raged a bit and broke things, but this was where she was supposed to be 100% in control of herself. Thought that was a little strange.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    I mean, Jen knew Matt (briefly). And she grabbed him and yanked his mask off. So the cat was kinda out of the bag at that point.



    As opposed to what? He doesn't have other clothes. Nothing Jen has would fit him. He probably doesn't even have a wallet with him to pay for a cab. And he's supposed to be blind, so if he's not costumed, and anyone who knows him recognizes him, it'll be super suspicious how he's managing to cope without his cane.
    Maybe slipping out at night? Where he could head to the rooftops and use the cover of darkness to sneak away without being seen in broad daylight.

    But the show wanted a him to do the 'walk of shame'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathandira View Post
    Maybe slipping out at night? Where he could head to the rooftops and use the cover of darkness to sneak away without being seen in broad daylight.

    But the show wanted a him to do the 'walk of shame'.
    Why bother? Like I said, the cops aren't looking for Daredevil for anything, he's just a weirdo in a suit. In a setting where there's increasing numbers of D-tier superpowered types, like Leapfrog, running around. What reason would Matt have to try and sneak off?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathandira View Post

    Today I was thinking, though I doubt he would actually be, but perhaps he is a Skrull.
    As a shrill, he also slept with her to take her blood. That would be a hilarious and ridiculous running gag to try to keep going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathandira View Post
    Watching the most recent episode, I can't help but notice how much Daredevil has changed. Like his whole personality felt different.

    Today I was thinking, though I doubt he would actually be, but perhaps he is a Skrull.

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    I said successful. Only person I've even heard on that list is Whitney Cummings. Might be my own ignorance but those names are certainly not house hold names. Props for at least naming 5 and presumably people still alive and didn't have to go back to the 50s though. But the point is stand up is brutal for female comedians so it's not surprising you don't get to Chris Rock, Kevin Hart levels where you can have movie deals and comedy specials. Best the likes of tina fey Amy polhmer can hope for is hosting the Oscars and the odd comedy movie/tv and they are the exceptions. But I guess it's hate mongering to point out basics of reality

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    No one is under any obligation to help you justify your dumbass "derr, but women not funny tho" assertion for you.
    No you'll just do the normal mmo thing to do and argue in bad faith, deny reality and ultimately resort to name calling as per usual

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    Why bother? Like I said, the cops aren't looking for Daredevil for anything, he's just a weirdo in a suit. In a setting where there's increasing numbers of D-tier superpowered types, like Leapfrog, running around. What reason would Matt have to try and sneak off?
    There's a reason they're D-tier, they're probably not smart, inexperienced, and likely do stupid things in general, as was demonstrated by Leapfrog basically being a clown. The problem we have with DD, She-Hulk, and frankly a lot of the people as written in the MCU as of late is that they're supposed to be smart to some degree yet do insanely stupid things or take risks that they wouldn't if they were written as an actual character. As is the case with pretty much all the writing in She-Hulk, it's an attempt to reach a certain goal, make certain statements/messages, or portray certain events with little to no thought put into whether it makes sense for the characters to act in the manner that they do.

    I think that's the most ironically funny thing about the She-Hulk show: I know perfectly well what the writers are going for as subtlety is not their strong suit, but it's done to such an inept level that it undermines or counters their own goals constantly. The show itself is a perfect example of demonstrating that writing a good comedy show actually takes good writing talent to execute, otherwise the best you can get is people laughing in disbelief at how bad the show is. To come back full circle, the show is basically Leapfrog: D-tier content where everyone's laughing at how bad it is while it's trying to be smart and interesting and thinking it's worthy of A/S-tier status.
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    Quote Originally Posted by exochaft View Post
    There's a reason they're D-tier, they're probably not smart, inexperienced, and likely do stupid things in general, as was demonstrated by Leapfrog basically being a clown. The problem we have with DD, She-Hulk, and frankly a lot of the people as written in the MCU as of late is that they're supposed to be smart to some degree yet do insanely stupid things or take risks that they wouldn't if they were written as an actual character. As is the case with pretty much all the writing in She-Hulk, it's an attempt to reach a certain goal, make certain statements/messages, or portray certain events with little to no thought put into whether it makes sense for the characters to act in the manner that they do.
    What's "dumb" about Matt's "walk of shame"?

    He's not being targeted. He's not even in the same city as his regular enemies, who likely don't know where he is. He's got literally nothing to be concerned about, walking in his Daredevil costume. There's borderline no risk, and I only allow that "borderline" because of the vanishingly remote chance some idiot supervillain decides to jump him hoping he's a superhero rather than just a dude with a costume.

    I think that's the most ironically funny thing about the She-Hulk show: I know perfectly well what the writers are going for as subtlety is not their strong suit, but it's done to such an inept level that it undermines or counters their own goals constantly. The show itself is a perfect example of demonstrating that writing a good comedy show actually takes good writing talent to execute, otherwise the best you can get is people laughing in disbelief at how bad the show is. To come back full circle, the show is basically Leapfrog: D-tier content where everyone's laughing at how bad it is while it's trying to be smart and interesting and thinking it's worthy of A/S-tier status.
    Except there wasn't any "bad writing". This scene wasn't "bad writing". You just don't like it, and can't reasonably explain why out loud for some reason.

    Again, it continues to be shown that the writers were smart enough to directly call out the bad-faith garbage posting that the show would generate, by writing it in a year before it even came out. Perfect prediction, because the bad-faith brigade effort is so cliche it's entirely predictable at this point.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertoCarlos View Post
    I said successful. Only person I've even heard on that list is Whitney Cummings. Might be my own ignorance but those names are certainly not house hold names.
    Peretti is on Brooklyn 99 and is most certainly household.

    But you're moving the goalposts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Goblin View Post
    Peretti is on Brooklyn 99 and is most certainly household.

    But you're moving the goalposts.
    brooklyn 99 that stars andy samberg and terry crews?

    I put in stipulations for a reason. There are dozens of female comedians that are funny, the point was that very few are LEADS and are household names that are getting projects greenlit. Make me out the villain for stating the obvious all ye like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertoCarlos View Post
    brooklyn 99 that stars andy samberg and terry crews?

    I put in stipulations for a reason. There are dozens of female comedians that are funny, the point was that very few are LEADS and are household names that are getting projects greenlit. Make me out the villain for stating the obvious all ye like.
    I don’t watch any thing comedy related but aren’t there always a ton of female lead sit coms running?

    Two broke girls, Ugly Betty, Crazy ex girlfriend, I haven’t seem then my self so I have no clue if they are funny or not but it feels like I hear about shows like this rather regularly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SavoirFaire View Post
    As a shrill, he also slept with her to take her blood. That would be a hilarious and ridiculous running gag to try to keep going.
    when I saw them do the horizontal tango, I did think for a moment that maybe he used his sense of smell to smell her blood or something, anything to give a hint that her blood had been stolen. Now we never see him actually tell her that, could be a plot twist that she knew a plot was afoot and deliberately "hulked out" to try and get whoever is leading it to come out of the woodwork?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    I don’t watch any thing comedy related but aren’t there always a ton of female lead sit coms running?

    Two broke girls, Ugly Betty, Crazy ex girlfriend, I haven’t seem then my self so I have no clue if they are funny or not but it feels like I hear about shows like this rather regularly.
    Two broke girls isn't a bad shout to be fair. That's a semi popular sitcom that clearly stars two female comedic leads. So Veep and two broke girls I would not argue against

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    I find it morbidly amusing that some people would list Ali Wong as a "funny female comedian" to push their agenda.
    The best joke regarding this show to date, in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathandira View Post
    Another thing I found a little strange, was how careless She-Hulk is. She is a lawyer, one of the Best Female Lawyers of the Year. Yet had no second thought to destroying private and public property. She doesn't have a disguise, so any witnesses or video evidence of her throwing cars, and smashing property would be undoubtedly damning. As a lawyer, you'd think it would be something she would be very careful of. I get the later scene where she raged a bit and broke things, but this was where she was supposed to be 100% in control of herself. Thought that was a little strange.
    Very few MCU characters have secret identities, and there isn't a single Marvel movie where property is not destroyed in the process of them doing their thing. In fact, this was addressed in one of the most prominent plot devices in the entire MCU: The Sokovia Accords.

    Also, if you think she got that award because she is actually a great lawyer, you are seriously not paying attention.

    Maybe slipping out at night? Where he could head to the rooftops and use the cover of darkness to sneak away without being seen in broad daylight.

    But the show wanted a him to do the 'walk of shame'.
    Who cares if he is seen in broad daylight? He's not a criminal. He's not in hiding.

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    The only person who was named by one of those victims and wasn't held accountable was Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    Again, it continues to be shown that the writers were smart enough to directly call out the bad-faith garbage posting that the show would generate, by writing it in a year before it even came out. Perfect prediction, because the bad-faith brigade effort is so cliche it's entirely predictable at this point.
    All the trolling just becomes free viral marketing now.
    /s

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    Don't know what the irrelevant female comedian (what happened to the word "comedienne"?) is here for, but as for the last episode, I think it safe to say it was really good.

    Daredevil added some great comedy, as well as some great legal stuff to the series.

    I'm also not sure why people had an issue with She-Hulk losing her shit at the end, as if it was out of nowhere. I thought that was a pretty valid reaction from a hulk-powered person to her private life being exposed for all to see, right down to a sex tape. Would you react rationally in that situation? I think not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    Don't know what the irrelevant female comedian (what happened to the word "comedienne"?) is here for, but as for the last episode, I think it safe to say it was really good.

    Daredevil added some great comedy, as well as some great legal stuff to the series.

    I'm also not sure why people had an issue with She-Hulk losing her shit at the end, as if it was out of nowhere. I thought that was a pretty valid reaction from a hulk-powered person to her private life being exposed for all to see, right down to a sex tape. Would you react rationally in that situation? I think not.
    people in the show? or people in comments? cause I can 100% understand why people in the show would react the way that they did. their primary association with Hulk destroying property and roaring like that, bursting through the walls and all? is with Bruce when he WAS out of control. they don't get to hear Jen's inner thoughts the way audience does. for most of them - she is a symbol not a person.

    in comments though, I'm at least not losing my shit, her reaction was 100% understandable. I might even react in a very similar way in a similar situation, minus green screen and superpowered strength and all. some people think that any angry outburst at all = you are out of control, period, you have no control without even realizing just how unhealthy that degree of repression is, but hey...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Witchblade77 View Post
    people in the show? or people in comments?
    Posting here, yeah.

    in comments though, I'm at least not losing my shit, her reaction was 100% understandable. I might even react in a very similar way in a similar situation, minus green screen and superpowered strength and all. some people think that any angry outburst at all = you are out of control, period, you have no control without even realizing just how unhealthy that degree of repression is, but hey...
    Yeah, exactly. The key thing about how she behaved at the end, was how she actually calmed down while she was outside and facing all those people. She could quite easily have just gone nuts on them, or jumped away or anything. Hell, she could have just clapped and floored everyone. But that's how she differs from Banner Hulk, she's not a rage-fuelled, mentally damaged monster. She had an appropriate reaction to what happened, given she's a hulk, and eventually calmed herself in the situation.

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    Lmao ok so the finale is just nuts.

    Definitely John Byrne She-Hulk dialed up. Cracked me up, but I do wonder how casual viewers took it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rogueMatthias View Post
    Lmao ok so the finale is just nuts.

    Definitely John Byrne She-Hulk dialed up. Cracked me up, but I do wonder how casual viewers took it.
    so much fourth wall breaking! I was expecting some but not that much. also that final reveal... makes sense I guess. Time works differently on Sakaar I guess? been roughly 7 years since Avengers: Age of Ultron, so possibly

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    The show was already pretty meta with the "main antagonists" in the first place, but I definitely wasn't expecting it to get that meta.

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