No, it's not interesting enough for me because this is the Marvel Universe, not our IRL one.
And no, MCU civilians lived a very much different life than what we do.
They experience alien invaders, cosmic singularities (Thor 2), living bomb people kidnapping the president and so on.
Imagine people nowadays, the average person is insignificant, the biggest thing you can do is like have political influence or money.
But in the MCU the average person must feel even more worthless, they live in a world where they can step outside and instantly die from a myriad of things they don't even understand.
Realistically the average people should be terrified of their existence especially in a world where the Avengers are gone (which is the current MCU).
I think the more accurate representation of what your average person would be like was in Wandavision.
Which also, is a much more interesting setting for a show in the MCU and it wasn't preachy. It can be done.
Again, most people in the MCU have never even seen an alien. Even the Battle of New York was mostly contained to a relatively small area.
I would advise you to read some comics. At this point New Yorkers are so inured to superheroes they hardly even look up anymore. People still have their regular ass jobs and deal with regular ass people shit.Imagine people nowadays, the average person is insignificant, the biggest thing you can do is like have political influence or money.
But in the MCU the average person must feel even more worthless, they live in a world where they can step outside and instantly die from a myriad of things they don't even understand.
The Avengers aren't "gone" in the MCU. Some of the original Avengers are gone...but they've been replaced by others.Realistically the average people should be terrified of their existence especially in a world where the Avengers are gone (which is the current MCU).
Wandavision took place in a very small town. I'm sure it had a profound effect on the few thousand people living there...but the majority of the world wouldn't have even been aware that it happened at all.I think the more accurate representation of what your average person would be like was in Wandavision.
Which also, is a much more interesting setting for a show in the MCU and it wasn't preachy. It can be done.
Also, it's not like they're subjecting you to watching an entire episode of Jen getting catcalled. It's literally one line in a 30 second scene where Jen is explaining to her cousin that she's been having to keep her anger in check her entire life.
Bruce never learned how to face his anger in his life. He suppressed it. Which isn't healthy even if you don't have a "Mr. Hyde" sharing headspace with you. Jen doesn't have a "Mr. Hyde"... she doesn't lose control because when she Hulks out...she's still just herself. She's big and green...but she's still Jen Walters. Her default state is a "Smart Hulk" beause she didn't have to "merge" separate identities into a single being.
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“The biggest communication problem is we do not listen to understand. We listen to reply,” Stephen Covey.
I thought you were leaving this topic.
It was poking fun at his alleged virginity. Which is what the joke was playing to.
Again, a few years ago there was an argument that led to a meme of "Captain America [censored]!" ... it was a long thing to get to that joke.
You don't have to like it.
And you are misquoting the line, it isn't infinitely more rage but rather she has had to control her anger infinitely more times than Bruce. It isn't about the quality or cause of the anger. You are factually wrong on the episode. And rather than admit error, you double down constantly. You are wrong.
Peace is a lie. There is only passion. Through passion I gain strength. Through strength I gain power.
Through power I gain victory. Through victory my chains are broken. The Force shall set me free.
–The Sith Code
1) 911 had a very real effect on our real world that is still felt today.
It was talked about internationally everywhere and people were scared.
Or look at whatever is happening in Ukraine right now, people are scared and it is constantly shown everywhere.
Now imagine the world there after New York, Sokovia, Washington, Infinity War, Endgame etc.
Most of the MCU events also occured relatively close to each other.
2) The MCU is not the comics. It doesn't matter if comics civilians are used to it.
3) The Avengers are literally gone. I don't know how anyone could be replaced if there is literally no group present anymore. I get it, the Kang movie is called Avengers so we'll have a team up later but currently in the world there are no Avengers group. There is Dr Strange and that's it.
4) Which was not the point at all. The majority of the world has enough tragedies to point at to feel unsafe already.
You also know when people run out of arguments when they basically can do nothing more than criticize the other person's arguments.
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Oh, is incel the buzzword of the week? Good to know. It's easy to call people names in order to dismiss any point they may have made.
Thusly, I'm sure your response to me will contain the words moron, imbecile, or drivel-laden offal-sucker.
How joyous to be in such a place! Where phishing is not only allowed, it is encouraged!
And yet they still go on about their lives.
And it would be terrifying while it was happening if you were in the area...but most people weren't. The Battle of New York was pretty well contained.Now imagine the world there after New York, Sokovia, Washington, Infinity War, Endgame etc.
Most of the MCU events also occured relatively close to each other.
In the MCU they've already moved past the Snap... where 50% of the people suddenly Vanished and the "Blip" where they all came back as if they had never been gone.2) The MCU is not the comics. It doesn't matter if comics civilians are used to it.
There's still plenty of Avengers. Hulk, Captain Marvel, Dr. Strange, Thor, Spider-Man, Antman, Wasp, War Machine, Captain America (Sam Wilson), Winter Soldier,3) The Avengers are literally gone. I don't know how anyone could be replaced if there is literally no group present anymore. I get it, the Kang movie is called Avengers so we'll have a team up later but currently in the world there are no Avengers group. There is Dr Strange and that's it.
And yet people still move on with their regular lives. We're still in a pandemic right now...and people are still complaining about getting vaccinated and wearing masks.4) Which was not the point at all. The majority of the world has enough tragedies to point at to feel unsafe already.
People were really scared after 9/11...and then 2 months later they were complaining about having to take off their shoes to get through airport security.
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“The biggest communication problem is we do not listen to understand. We listen to reply,” Stephen Covey.
Well they dragged Hulk threw the mud first episode let’s see how they ruin Dare Devil
Nah but this particular poster has a history of similar bullshit. I'm merely responding to what he wrote. If he doesn't like any potential responses maybe he should think before he posts. Obviously he felt malice signalling to the rest of the trolls was most important.
A paranoid idiot would think this is about a woman shaming a man's virginity. A normal person would like to know if Agent Carter and Captain America hooked up. I'm a little disappointed it was to some random USO girl.
If you like. You can call me the same. One thing for sure: I won't put you on ignore. My ignore list is empty.
Show doesnt seem that interesting to me so i simply ignore everything about it and dont watch. Pretty simple over here,
Mate you are so full of shit it is sad. I never said talking about hooking up is wrong, or that people didn't do, what I said was talking about virginity. If she was asking Bruce if he thought Cap banged some of the cheer leaders it would still be a little awkward (since I don't talk to my opposite sex cousins about who my friends bang) I would understand it more than talking about virginity/if my friends still had it.
The only paranoid person here is you tossing out lines about whatever to justify your attacks against others because they simply disagree with you. I wasn't the one who attacked you, you came after me, and the only reason I was here is because the guy tagged me, I was fine letting this go. Continue to live in your delusions as you insult others for having the AUDACITY to think differently than you, I have better things to do.
What the fck is even your point at this stage?
It's pretty disgusting that you are downplaying real world tragedies in favor of making some imaginary point here.
Let's not even mention how you are literally saying that 911 was nothing, people got over it, but you got fucking upset over my critique for the stupid as fuck "cat-calling" line from the show?
Get your priorities straight, please before you try to preach to me.
As for on topic:
The show (or at least this first episode) was preachy. There is nothing you can argue here.
They could have used the Blip as a source of her anger, some examples: gone for 5 years, career halted, apartment taken, husband with new girl, get creative. But no, they went with the "I am a woman" route.
Incredibly lazy and boring from my PoV.
You don't like what I think then so be it.
This is you realizing you put your foot in your mouth. You took it as a woman attacking a man. Which is weird as fuck.
Technically I came after you and other similar minded trolls in this thread. Your not the first bullshitter I've criticized this thread. Just the most recent one.
And I already know you have nothing better to do. Even if you're done in this thread, there will always be another and you'll be ready to wave your flag there.
I didn't say "9/11 was nothing". I said people moved on with their lives after 9/11.Let's not even mention how you are literally saying that 911 was nothing, people got over it, but you got fucking upset over my critique for the stupid as fuck "cat-calling" line from the show?
Get your priorities straight, please before you try to preach to me.
The point was that people were scared...and then they went back to their normal every day frustrations. Like catcalling.
There's nothing preachy about it. You're the one trying to dictate the things that a woman can and cannot be angry about. That's pretty preachy.The show (or at least this first episode) was preachy. There is nothing you can argue here.
The Blip being the "source of her anger" would mean that she was a fully formed adult human being before she started learning how to control her anger. That's Bruce's problem...not hers.They could have used the Blip as a source of her anger, some examples: gone for 5 years, career halted, apartment taken, husband with new girl, get creative. But no, they went with the "I am a woman" route.
“The biggest communication problem is we do not listen to understand. We listen to reply,” Stephen Covey.
What? No I didn't..... unless you mean the writer (since everyone working on the show is female) then I guess because its bad writing. Only thing weird is how fucking randomly you take anything anyone writes. Like seriously get some help (be it in English classes so you understand words better, or human behavior so you understand better what people are talking about, or psychological because your mind is a bit fucked up).
I wasn't trolling I stated how I felt, you took that as some sort of personal attack and jumped on the opportunity to insult others because they had different beliefs than your own, nice zealotry.
I mean there will be other threads about shows that I may watch where I write my .02, sure, feel free to stalk me there too, but I am done with you, should have ignored you earlier.