[TV] She-Hulk: Attorney at Law (*SPOILERS*)

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

In American English, the phrase "Bye, Felicia" (actually spelled "Felisha" in the cast listing) is an informal phrase intended as a dismissive send-off, where the recipient is rendered so unimportant their name is reduced to "Felicia." The phrase originally comes from a scene from Angela Means' character Felicia in the American comedy film Friday (1995). According to Ice Cube, who starred in the film and co-wrote its script, "Bye, Felicia" is "the phrase 'to get anyone out of your face'".[1]

Oh well, I guess I misinterpret that, huh.

Anyway, moving on.

As I said, it's a dismissal...not an insult.

[Jester Joe]

Well, it certainly sounded funny to me that way
Don't take it as an attempt to take a stab at you, please

Except it's a simple statement.

You're causing an issue by dodging addressing the original issue. But you cut that out just to make it sound stupid.

I mean, for someone who keeps saying you're the victim in the thread, you're still choosing to egg people on.

The bolded part is an interesting one.
Are you suggesting only people who watch and enjoy are supposed to discuss the show?

Not even close to what was said. You keep getting told you don't have to watch the show if you're not enjoying it, which you keep responding with "but then I'll be told my opinion doesn't count since I didn't watch it", to which I'm saying you don't have to discuss the show either.

This isn't your job or anything.
Saying you have to watch it to discuss it here is a bit weird.

[ArenaDk]

Why are you all ganging up on a guy for not liking a c tier tv series ? Just accept the series isnt world breaking but rather something to enjoy if you have nothing better to do / watch. You can like it, but thats no reason to gang up on someone, specially for a series that most people dont even know exists.

Also as someone who came here to see if its worth watching, is this one weird scene with the dancing in office + the she hulk being a better hulk true or just memes ?

[Witchblade77]

Why are you all ganging up on a guy for not liking a c tier tv series ? Just accept the series isnt world breaking but rather something to enjoy if you have nothing better to do / watch. You can like it, but thats no reason to gang up on someone, specially for a series that most people dont even know exists.

Also as someone who came here to see if its worth watching, is this one weird scene with the dancing in office + the she hulk being a better hulk true or just memes ?

because we are not ganging up on him for not liking something? we are refuting outright false statements made by him, on which he bases his "opinions"

Dancing in the office is a post credit scene bonus type scene, those are a marvel staple and only some of the time do they progress the plot, most of the time they are just there for fun. that scene is a joke on how much of a fangirl Jennifer is.

She hulk never claims to be a better Hulk. she doesn't even want to BE Hulk. 2 out of 3 hulks in the series do not have split personality or serious mental health issues in general. which makes control easier for them than for Bruce.

episodes are like 20 to 30 minutes long at most. give one episode a watch and see if you like it, because only YOU can decide if its worth to keep watching.

[Kathandira]

is this one weird scene with the dancing in office + the she hulk being a better hulk true or just memes ?

Yes, She-Hulk was dancing with Megan Thee Stallion in her office. It was distasteful imo, but it was an end credit scene, which tend to be comical bits as a send off at the end of the episodes. Not something to really get bent out of shape about.

She-Hulk being "better" than the Hulk is something that some people have interpreted from the first episode. But if viewed without any prejudice in mind, it didn't really play out that way.

[NineSpine]

Yes, She-Hulk was dancing with Megan Thee Stallion in her office. It was distasteful imo, but it was an end credit scene, which tend to be comical bits as a send off at the end of the episodes. Not something to really get bent out of shape about.

She-Hulk being "better" than the Hulk is something that some people have interpreted from the first episode. But if viewed without any prejudice in mind, it didn't really play out that way.

Was it even distasteful? I'm not sure what that means in this context tbh.

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I'm genuinely baffled by the Mary Sue claims. She's very self-absorbed and clearly has self-esteem issues. She resorts to using she-hulk to cover for her social ineptitude. In fact, in the last episode she botched her case and lost in court. She has failed repeatedly in the show. Where is the Mary Sue here?

The weird part here is that, if anything, the show is a bit lazy in the dynamics it has set up and the way it is addressing gender. It's a bit by the numbers and virtually none of these storylines would feel out of place in 1995. I think some people are so prone to literally seeing a female lead character and getting enraged that they aren't bothering to notice that this is probably the least gender-modern thing Marvel has done. Cmon, the dating stuff? It's so 90s sitcom.

Don't get me wrong, I actually really like the show, but this is a great example how there are some folks that are so buried in their political horseshit that they will read their general social grievances into literally anything.

[Kathandira]

Was it even distasteful? I'm not sure what that means in this context tbh.

That is up to the viewer. It is a me thing that I find it distasteful. I don't like sexually suggestive dancing in shows that are not made for adults only. Twerking, imo, is sexually suggestive.

[Al Gorefiend]

Well, the "this show portrays men terribly!!" arguments should die, since they just had a woman play the absolute godawful annoying ditz role.

[NineSpine]

That is up to the viewer. It is a me thing that I find it distasteful. I don't like sexually suggestive dancing in shows that are not made for adults only. Twerking, imo, is sexually suggestive.

It's not a kids show. It's rated 14+. If a 14 year old is not prepared to see fully clothed twerking, something has gone horribly wrong with what their parents have done.

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Well, the "this show portrays men terribly!!" arguments should die, since they just had a woman play the absolute godawful annoying ditz role.

Are you referring to the best character in the entire MCU?

[Kathandira]

It's not a kids show. It's rated 14+. If a 14 year old is not prepared to see fully clothed twerking, something has gone horribly wrong with what their parents have done.

To each their own = )

14 year olds in my eyes are kids. But that is how I personally see it. I am no one's parent and would not tell others what they can or cannot allow their kids to watch.

[Biomega]

14 year olds in my eyes are kids.

But surely you agree that, say, a 6-year old and a 14-year old are not the same? Even though you'd call both of them "kids"?

Trying to somehow subsume that under a general label like "kids" seems awfully undifferentiated to me.

[NineSpine]

To each their own = )

14 year olds in my eyes are kids. But that is how I personally see it. I am no one's parent and would not tell others what they can or cannot allow their kids to watch.

The average 14 year old has already seen pornography. I'm not saying that you are being pushy or telling other people what to do. I'm just offering a friendly reality check (as someone who has kids) that the average well adjusted 14 year old is a lot more mature than you may think, and in most cases has already had comprehensive sex education. In my opinion, to criticize the mild sexually suggestive content of She-Hulk, a show that shows people solving most of their problems with violent (like most other superhero shows), is to sort of miss what is actually potentially destructive in media content. It isn't booty shaking; it's the idea that the world neatly breaks down into good guys and bad guys, and we solve the problems bad guys create by using violence against them.

[UnifiedDivide]

I can't believe how many pages were wasted arguing with a guy that was just swapping between accounts.

OT: Episode 4 was a good one. Madisynn and Wong need their own sitcom. "Donny" Blaze was a very blatant reference to Johnny Blaze, and it was a nice little nod, tbh.

IIRC, Titania was to come back to the series from episode 5, so I expect to see her. Curious to see how that will go, since we're obviously starting to get into the meat of the story now.

[Mehrunes]

Is this really the depths we're falling to nowadays? The Internet has been a platform for people for so long, they feel entitled to even share their opinions on something they haven't experienced yet to even form an opinion on it, and ridicule people pointing that absurdity out?

Like... Yes, to form your own opinion, you need to have experience. Otherwise it becomes ignorance.

Well said. This thread really has some of the weirdest takes I've seen in a while.

[Darththeo]

Well, the "this show portrays men terribly!!" arguments should die, since they just had a woman play the absolute godawful annoying ditz role.

No, see, SHE managed to survive hell without anything ... therefore despite being a ditz, she is shown as capable and therefore is a positive portrayal!

**Not my argument, literally was made in this topic**

The argument is based on any negative for a man means the man is portrayed as negative regardless of how much positive exists while a woman is a positive portrayal means it is positive ignoring any negative.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

The argument is based on any negative for a man means the man is portrayed as negative regardless of how much positive exists while a woman is a positive portrayal means it is positive ignoring any negative.

That's basically it. If a man is shown to have any negative characteristics at all they consider it "proof" that the show hates men. Meanwhile any negative charactericstics of female characters are handwaved away by them.

[Al Gorefiend]

No, see, SHE managed to survive hell without anything ... therefore despite being a ditz, she is shown as capable and therefore is a positive portrayal!

**Not my argument, literally was made in this topic**

The argument is based on any negative for a man means the man is portrayed as negative regardless of how much positive exists while a woman is a positive portrayal means it is positive ignoring any negative.

Like, ohmygaaaaawwdddd, that is like.. so unfair to women and stuff!

[Polyxo]

I can't believe how many pages were wasted arguing with a guy that was just swapping between accounts.

OT: Episode 4 was a good one. Madisynn and Wong need their own sitcom. "Donny" Blaze was a very blatant reference to Johnny Blaze, and it was a nice little nod, tbh.

IIRC, Titania was to come back to the series from episode 5, so I expect to see her. Curious to see how that will go, since we're obviously starting to get into the meat of the story now.

Yeah, I am kind of stoked to see what 'superhero influencer' looks like.

[UnifiedDivide]

Yeah, I am kind of stoked to see what 'superhero influencer' looks like.

I expect full on Instagram lives showing her doing all her criminal stuff. Probably get some awful TikTok remix video where her fight with She-Hulk gets turned into a song lol

[SavoirFaire]

Yeah, I am kind of stoked to see what 'superhero influencer' looks like.

Wasn’t it “super powered” not super hero?

I can see her doing dumb crap like lifting a car for likes or jumping off buildings. I do hope they play up her being more of an idiotic menace than an outright villain. This one looks ripe for social commentary, so I hope they really go for the jugular.