1. #1

    Lack of interrupt in DF

    I`m wondering what your thoughts are on the lack of an interrupt for priests in the Dragonflight expansion?

    Looking over talents, these healers will have access to interrupts.
    Druid
    Shaman
    Paladin
    Monk
    Evoker

    Which more or less leaves priests as the single healing class with no dedicated interrupt.
    Do you foresee this causing any problems?

  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by Dejiko View Post
    I`m wondering what your thoughts are on the lack of an interrupt for priests in the Dragonflight expansion?

    Looking over talents, these healers will have access to interrupts.
    Druid
    Shaman
    Paladin
    Monk
    Evoker

    Which more or less leaves priests as the single healing class with no dedicated interrupt.
    Do you foresee this causing any problems?
    i didnt play priest in some time, so i got to ask, do priests (healers) have interrupt currently?

  3. #3
    Nah, only shamans have interrupt of all healers at the moment.

    There was a time where all healers had interrupt before (I think mop?) but they didn't like it and left it only in resto shamans toolkit as their niche. Priests had silence then though (no idea if they can access it in DF, if so then it makes sense they wouldn't have interrupt).

  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by melzas View Post
    Nah, only shamans have interrupt of all healers at the moment.

    There was a time where all healers had interrupt before (I think mop?) but they didn't like it and left it only in resto shamans toolkit as their niche. Priests had silence then though (no idea if they can access it in DF, if so then it makes sense they wouldn't have interrupt).
    In current DF build all healers can specc into interrupt (though druids require shifting out of catform which can be impractical during high damage on group), except priests.

    Shamans still have the best, shortest cd and longest range interrupt, whereas palas and monks have an almost identical interrupt but requiring melee range.

    I'm kinda ok with priests not having it, you don't really need 5 interrupters even in the absolute highest keys (30+), and it can be a sort of a class weakness of a rather strong healer. Some differences are ok.

  5. #5
    Though priest doesn't have an interrupt, disc DOES have an aoe 2(3?) sec silence on a short CD, which is very powerful.

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Dejiko View Post
    I`m wondering what your thoughts are on the lack of an interrupt for priests in the Dragonflight expansion?

    Looking over talents, these healers will have access to interrupts.
    Druid
    Shaman
    Paladin
    Monk
    Evoker

    Which more or less leaves priests as the single healing class with no dedicated interrupt.
    Do you foresee this causing any problems?
    You have other, better tools for the job.
    Interrupts are nice, but effectively it's just a minor/specialised form of cc comparable to roots, not everyone needs those either.
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  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by loras View Post
    You have other, better tools for the job.
    Interrupts are nice, but effectively it's just a minor/specialised form of cc comparable to roots, not everyone needs those either.
    Interrupt and roots isnt comparable at all. Interrupts are some of the most important "cc" effects to have in dungeons be it aoe or single target.

    That being said interrupting as a healer is nice to have but not mandatory - especially now that pretty much every dps can have a decent interrupt and aoe cc abilities.

  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by ClassicPeon View Post
    Interrupt and roots isnt comparable at all. Interrupts are some of the most important "cc" effects to have in dungeons be it aoe or single target.

    That being said interrupting as a healer is nice to have but not mandatory - especially now that pretty much every dps can have a decent interrupt and aoe cc abilities.
    Interupt is not CC. They are different things and should not be mixed. If you ask someone to CC moon they are not going to go to it and kick it.

  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by Deneios View Post
    Interupt is not CC. They are different things and should not be mixed. If you ask someone to CC moon they are not going to go to it and kick it.
    Thats why i said "cc"

    If you read the comment i quoted it stated:

    "but effectively it's just a minor/specialised form of cc"

  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by Zypherz View Post
    Though priest doesn't have an interrupt, disc DOES have an aoe 2(3?) sec silence on a short CD, which is very powerful.
    Are you referring to the Divine Star+Wickedness talents?
    Going by the talent calculator it`s changed, and the silence has been removed.

  11. #11
    Variations in tool kits is part of what keeps the game engaging and fun. The game has given more tools to more specs over the years and I don't think it's always for the best.

    Not everyone needs mobility, and roots, and silences, and interrupts, and immunities.

    Sometimes a weakness is just what adds flavour and variation and helps keep other classes attractive and worthwhile.

  12. #12
    Well i mean disregarding no interrupt for healing priests, regarding priests as a whole, we still have the (BY FAR) longest cd interrupt with a baseline of 45 seconds (reduced to 30 by a talent) right now, while all other ranged classes have their CD at 24 seconds baseline.

    Heck even evokers will be getting a shorter baseline cd interrupt with 40 seconds and with a talent it goes down to 20 while also giving them 20% of their primary resource.

  13. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by ResentfulUK View Post
    Variations in tool kits is part of what keeps the game engaging and fun. The game has given more tools to more specs over the years and I don't think it's always for the best.

    Not everyone needs mobility, and roots, and silences, and interrupts, and immunities.

    Sometimes a weakness is just what adds flavour and variation and helps keep other classes attractive and worthwhile.
    This is broadly true but falls apart if the same tools are needed frequently while other tools are super niche, as has historically been the case.

    I don't think this will be true of interrupts since the group will likely already have many, but I guess we'll see.

    Personally I think the ability to get double PI with almost no cost is a MASSIVE boost to how easy it will be to get groups in DF

  14. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by Ashana Darkmoon View Post
    This is broadly true but falls apart if the same tools are needed frequently while other tools are super niche, as has historically been the case.

    I don't think this will be true of interrupts since the group will likely already have many, but I guess we'll see.

    Personally I think the ability to get double PI with almost no cost is a MASSIVE boost to how easy it will be to get groups in DF
    I agree. I'm not talking about making things so niche you're compelled to bring a specific class and spec, but if you've got stuff covered generally do you really need to force all specs to have the same tools?

    Again. Bring a Shaman if you want that capability, they have other strengths too, but so does the Priest, they do things the Shaman can't.

    Keeps the game far more fun and engaging.

  15. #15
    Personally I'd rather the other healers other than Shaman didn't have interrupts, it's already difficult to get casts off with 2 melee ogres beating away.

    But yeah, priest's don't need this and have access to other utility spells the other healers don't have either.

  16. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by csguba View Post
    Personally I'd rather the other healers other than Shaman didn't have interrupts, it's already difficult to get casts off with 2 melee ogres beating away.

    But yeah, priest's don't need this and have access to other utility spells the other healers don't have either.
    Yeah im not really a pvp person much but this does seem pretty insane. healers will be even more powerful and it will be more instant cast or nothing

  17. #17
    Mass dispel
    And an offensive dispel

    I get your point of it being a common thing that priest doesn't get so it places them at a disadvantage in those cases but they also have things that still have them in an advantage

    Now in raids there's no excuse for lack of interrupts

  18. #18
    I'm fine with it but silence should be in the class tree where it belongs and healers can trade some other utility for it.

    Personally I don't think healers should be responsible for interrupts, they are saddled with enough responsibility, and DPS should be responsible for a little more utility than just damage but that's me.

  19. #19
    In terms of dungeons, I think Priest should have Silence on the class tree if *every* other healer has access to an interrupt. It's fine for different healers to have different utilities, but in terms of M+ utility, I think Priests already have the short end of the stick on any week that doesn't end in "ursting." This will only make it worse.
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