I kind of always wished that Khadgar decided to pull our garrison out of the AU and turned it into our own Dalaran-like floating island in the main universe. Even if this next expansion he was just like "Oh by the way...", it wouldn't be too out of character and would give a lot of opportunity for the property to be flexible in size, location, theme, and purpose. Since its a floating island it can follow us through the expansions too. Just make it more of a cosmetic thing or even let it focus on providing items from older expansions.
I definitely agree that garrisons absolutely isolated players and destroyed community interaction, but the devs continue to introduce items that further this exact problem. AH, transmog, respec, mailbox, bank, gbank, anvils, repairing and portals are widely available to players and remove the need of a major city. Anywhere can be a garrison now so they need to make new reasons for players to be in the major cities.
I think part of the problem with housing is exactly that, how irrelevant the world outside the current expac is. In WoW the use of a house outside current content would be much more limited. Getting a house in e.g. Feralas would mean that even with a HS at your house you will still need to use another HS cooldown to get to current content. Forget about popping in and out when you want as you can in other games.
Sounds nice - but won't work. I believe while everybody is summoning Ragnaros in thier basement - they don't have the incentive to go out to explore the game. This literally gives the illusion of that you are alone in WoW. And if something is keeping WoW alive, is the sense of people are playing it.
We also had Trophies in garrisons - nobody gave anything about it. WoW is not the game for that - achivements is the trophy.
I think that a fully packed AH in Orgrimmar is more important, than any other feature. And I think housing works against it.
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I'm going to go with "sold" classic. There's almost no one who would claim that classic is "hard" anymore, considering that even the showstopper bosses were downed within a few hours.
To be honest, though, I liked the "WAY TO GO CUPCAKE" humor that Wildstar had. If the game had taken the hardcore a bit more tongue in cheek rather than on the nose, then it would have been a much better game. I remember attuning myself for the first raid and those dungeons (Bosses -and- trash) were designed by sadists.
"...just imagine if we got a Drust focussed shadowlands instead of the 3d printed robot power tier titan horseshit instead. What might have been eh?" -dope_danny
Limit Max, who came from WS after getting bored of WoW in MoP, has said a few times that WildStar would probably have been a much more popular game if had been released today instead of when it was. I never played it but the more that I read into it the more I think he's probably right.
Honestly I'd agree with that. If they released it now with the -original- crafting and item design, I think people would eat it up for no other reason than it's a smack in the face to Blizzard's continual decline in quality (and removal of) humor.
Wildstar had the first enbie species, fer crissakes. AND its humor was never really sexual, just cartoon hyperviolence for laughs. Cassians were so damn uptight they couldn't have sex without a surgical removal of the sticks up their asses---that was funny as hell.
"...just imagine if we got a Drust focussed shadowlands instead of the 3d printed robot power tier titan horseshit instead. What might have been eh?" -dope_danny
Me personaly, if we get a house. I want a place to decorate to reflect my progress in the game. A place i can showcase my collection. Many people, me included like collecting transmogs. But you can truly only ever use/show 1-2 weapons at the same time, 1 shoulder etc. So why not have a house with a armory to display your loot. have a wall where you can hang your favourite swords and another for maces etc. Have armor stands you can put armor on and stuff like this. This already exist in the game. The rogue orderhall had armor stands where tier sets were displayed as you unlocked them. So the technology already exist. They just need to fine tune in and make you able to display any piece
Do i want the jailer's head on my wall? No, not really, but his weapon or some other jailer trophy, sure. Mounted heads would be for animals etc and not Humanoids. Maybe a bust, that changed color based on difficulty. Something indicating you killed a certain boss
I don't need any of this, but these are some of the things i want if they ever do a housing system
Again, you keep saying this nonsese while continue to ignore "the budget" THey do not have the infinte resources you think they have no matter how much you part at over and over again.
They have to adhere to the budget and there is no room to do player housing with out almost eating the entire budget. But hey, you want to continue with the stawman's so you aren't going to try to get that concept.
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OK - so answering the reply you gave me - you wanted to have trophies on the wall(you even rejected my funny idea of having the jailor heads on the wall). And I replied to you that we have achievement points.
Why do we need them trophies then(housing needs to do more than just that)? I think the price being paid here is too high.
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I merely said what i wanted in a house tho. Not what everyone wants/needs and/or should be there
One of my all time favourite mods in skyrim is the Legacy of the Dragonborn. Which adds a museom to skyrim. One you fill up yourself. And filling those display stands and walls with items. I really enjoy it. So having that posibility in wow would give me several hundreds of hours of stuff to do. Now obviously it will never be like that in wow, as there are too many items and too many recolors etc. But just having a wall where you could display a selection of swords, axes etc. Would be better than nothing
Just because all your friends decide to jump off a cliff, that makes it make sense?
Housing in wow will always be instanced, so nobody will ever see it. And outside RP realms, what do you think people will use it for? Invite others over for teatime?
Have the garrison assaults? It will be a nice flashy thing for a week or two and then dead on arrival.
But since i'm obvs not the target for housing, sell it. Show me how needed and invalueable housing is to wow and how wow possible cant survive going forward without it.
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Bit brutal example for something that it so simple?
Garrison would like to say hello, you know, the personal phased area which you can invite players and they'll see your version instead of their own?
Ask ALL the other bloody MMORPGs with housing, the majority don't even support RP realms (AA, and FFXIV for example). What do they do? They make a place for themselves, they style it how they want, they decorate, they use features within, and they stay with friends to chat and socialize.
Obviously not? Even Blizzard admits that the Garrison isn't really housing. Housing shouldn't be connected as much as the Garrison was to the point where it is forced.
For you, maybe, for others, not? And if it is dead for you, then gloriously you don't have to care about it in the first place for you shouldn't be seeing it unless you seek it out, meanwhile, for others, it'll change a whole aspect of the game.
Man, I can't sell it to you because you don't even know what it should be doing. WoW should be doing fine with or without housing. Housing shouldn't be connected to the world but the world should be able to draw in for the housing (Professions, achievements, vendors, art assets, development, deployment, and progression of the engine). The main problem opposing people have to housing is that they desperately want it to be something to do with the content to the point they expect it to be another Garrison, which was a flop and shrugged off as a failed attempt at housing.
Housing isn't needed for the game to go forward, housing is wanted by players to make more of the world they call home. Mythic raiding wasn't needed for the game to go forward, and neither were M+, or Pet Battles, but things develop, that is what progression is about and now another group of people would like something directed at them instead since the other minorities are being spoon-fed.
Some people want to see the RP grow in MMORPG.
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