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  1. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    The auction house can run out of stock because it doesn't generate tokens. No one has said the Blizzard website will run out of tokens. Digital items can go out of stock. Try buying a BoE from the AH when none are listed. Or herbs. Or mounts, pets, etc.

    If a player has to wait until the AH is restocked then the AH has first went out of stock, right? You keep acknowledging the issue happens while saying it can't happen.
    You cant run out of a digital item, plain and simple, are players still buying them now the answer is yes so they have not run out of them since the tokens were launched.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenn9530 View Post
    You cant run out of a digital item, plain and simple, are players still buying them now the answer is yes so they have not run out of them since the tokens were launched.
    Context. The in-game Auction House has sold out. You are talking about a separate system. The Blizzard store. Both exist at the same time and one can sell out of digital items because it requires items to be posted on it. Even the BMAH sells out of items and it is populated by Blizzard.
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  3. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by Stickiler View Post
    You're both correct, it's just Kenn doesn't know how to phrase his comments correctly.
    You were saying?
    Quote Originally Posted by kenn9530 View Post
    You cant run out of stock on a digital item, so they can never be sold out, its an item that has no limit on supply, there is a constant stream of players buying them so any player who wants one will get one.
    Again if the item is OUT OF STOCK a player who wants one will NOT get one. Period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenn9530 View Post
    You cant run out of a digital item, plain and simple, are players still buying them now the answer is yes so they have not run out of them since the tokens were launched.
    Double down on being wrong, it's cool. I'll remember this the next time they run out so I can have a good laugh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djuntas View Post
    Guys, I say this with my deepest sincere meaning: If you worry about gold in WoW, start playing the AH. Waste of time to play the actual game for gold, maybe unless you are hyper efficient.
    This advice does not work at all. If everyone started "playing the AH" then nobody would be making gold off of it. In any capitalistic system there must be losers in addition to winners. In fact, the losers have to outnumber the winners by large margins. The reason you are making millions from the AH is that there are thousands of players losing tens of thousands to you, each.

    And this is why the token is so attractive. Because the vast majority of players are not capable of making large sums of gold by the very design of the system.

    It's the same reason why "get an education" is such a worthless solution in RL. If everyone "got an education" then all of McDonald's employees would possess college degrees because there must be someone manning the fry station.

  5. #85
    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    Then you have horrid memory.
    Garrison gold
    Order hall gold
    Adventure table gold
    All three had their rewards nerfed at prepatch.
    calling type things were not nerfed in prepatch. I'm talking specifically about callings, not tables.

    P.S. I think there was some conversation about making gold on AH happening? I'm on a semi dead server. no, I will not transfer my characters. but that does mean that AH is not really a viable option for me to make gold. silly me, trying to doing through other in game means. and callings do require some effort/active play so they are not even remotely comparable to table missions.
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  6. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyanion View Post



    Is 36 million supposed to be like a lot or something? Because it really isn't. Also, with gold inflation being what it was this expansion was one of the easiest to make gold if you were able to corner some legendary markets. How much gold did you enter WoD/Legion/Shadowlands with? Cause some people, like me, entered WoD well over 50mil.
    Where did I say I was flexing in any way dude? Stop reading between the lines. Also I know people made 100-250 million gold selling lego's on 2-3 realms no lifing it. I never even got into lego marked in SL, but other items was plenty of income, as was WOD, legion and BFA for me...I made a lot of gold over the years, 75-100 million, and thats without anything but pure AH play. Im very good at what I do, and been doing AH play since wotlk. Thanks.-.

    Hell even back in BFA there was posts about boosters who made 50 million gold...All this info is from wow economy reddit, where I have seen plenty of real screenshots.

    @tomten I know 36 is respectable but also less than people who sold lego's or 24/7 boosting. I worked hard for it however, and its come over many years, having spend a lot as well. I only do like 30-60 mins of work average on AH play pr. day when the marked demands it (Or maybe 4-5 hours during patch bonanza)...Like haven't done any AH play for some months now etc on retail. I made 11 million gold first 30 days on 9.2 - Inflation is fun...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djuntas View Post
    @tomten I know 36 is respectable but also less than people who sold lego's or 24/7 boosting. I worked hard for it however, and its come over many years, having spend a lot as well. I only do like 30-60 mins of work average on AH play pr. day when the marked demands it (Or maybe 4-5 hours during patch bonanza)...Like haven't done any AH play for some months now etc on retail. I made 11 million gold first 30 days on 9.2 - Inflation is fun...
    Like I said. Its a good number and far far above average. Start of expos or raid tiers with boes is always insane money. I made on average 750k per item start of castle. And was pretty sweet because you could force reset mythic trash with a "bug" or "clever use of game mechanics" so you could farm it endless every day.
    I stopped when I had about 20 million. Spent most of it on trash stupid shit. Like every leggo for every class and alt I dont even play and stupid mounts lol.
    But its a fun time and I'm looking forward to end of the month :P

  8. #88
    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    Then you have horrid memory.
    Garrison gold
    Order hall gold
    Adventure table gold
    All three had their rewards nerfed at prepatch.
    The poster you quoted is talking about the callings; you're right about the missions, but if you take for example the bfa gold emissaries, they lasted 1 month into SL, I know cause I did them and picked 2 birds with 1 stone: gold and exp on my level 50 toons, which was the post squish bfa level cap.

  9. #89
    It was unnecessary to nerf gold from callings and tables before the expansion actually launches, but we're only talking two weeks here-- who cares?

    It certainly needed to be done after the launch regardless, otherwise you'd be incentivizing players to grind old content for money. And when players have an incentive, they follow it, no matter how much they hate every second.

    36 million is impressive. I never grinded callings but I abused the mission table to hell and back since WoD (and hated every second of it) and I'm just over 22 million. I did buy the AH mount, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenn9530 View Post
    Its not possible to sell out, there is billions of gold in circulation, and multiple millions if not billions get generated every single day, players dont buy gold enough for them to ever run out. The only limit is the tokens that are being sold, there is always someone to buy a token though.
    Spoken like someone that never bought a lot of tokens... I've seen them sell out more times than I can count.

  11. #91
    You're not going to convince a conspiracy theorist with logic and evidence, but I applaud your efforts nonetheless.

  12. #92
    Quote Originally Posted by Gamingsince1981 View Post
    The only gold income they don't nerf is the buying gold from them.
    Except they are not selling gold. Gold from token sales are from other players which acquired them in the game.

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