Why do more young people in America have emotional and self control problems now?

[Shadowferal]

Best kind of apple?
I’ve gotta go with Granny Smith. Good balance of sour and sweet and they retain a nice firm texture longer than any other apple.

Red Delicious for me. When they're just right, they really hit my sweet tooth with a nice firm crunch.

[Kaleredar]

Red Delicious for me. When they're just right, they really hit my sweet tooth with a nice firm crunch.

I dunno; red delicious seem to go to mush pretty quick.

[Witchblade77]

Dude, when I was growing up, it was absolutely plausible that on any given weekend or summer day that the weather allowed for, I'd be taking off in the morning and biking a mile or two away to meet with friends, often biking down powerline trails or similar wooded trails rather than using standard roads. I'd be gone all day, no "adult supervision" whatsoever, just be back before the streetlights come on. Not even "back for dinner" if I was getting dinner somewhere else. No cell phones they could reach me with because I wasn't a rich wall street banker in the late '80s. Even if it wasn't with friends, I'd disappear into the wooded section that lay between two branches of the local suburb (super hilly, wasn't feasible to carve it all out for houses), and I could be gone for hours there just as easily. Not usually for 5+, but that's more me getting bored and coming back on my own.

I wasn't remotely unique in that. You see those '80s movies where kids are taking off on their bikes and they're gone all day and their parents never have any idea what they're doing? That's not Hollywood nonsense. That's just how things were. Sure, it was also rapidly evolving into video games at that point, so often I was biking over to a friend's place to play video games for hours in his basement, but often, his parents weren't even home, so again, no supervision, though it was possible to call their place at least on the landline. But we weren't always doing that. We also did stupid kid shit.

Cell phones give parents direct access to their kid's location and a back door to their communications and activities. Even "turning them loose with a device" is way more restrictive than it was in yesteryear. Hell with a school gym, we were off in the woods throwing rocks at a wasp's nest we'd found.

yep. the only difference is that i usually packed lunch with me, that mom would help me make at first, and then even that i pretty much did on my own. usually stuff like sandwiches, boiled eggs, some fruit and some juice to drink.

I also went to school on my own since I was 7. granted elementary school I was going to was more or less around the corner, but I still have been going there on my own within week two of first grade. and so did all my classmates.


That said... while cellphones give parents more of a location of the kids, unless parents are closely supervising what kids are watching... its a wild west out there :/ all kinds of information is accessible and much MUCH easier then pre technology where we had to trade essentially stolen copies of ilicit stuff and there was a wait list usually and even then it wasn't AS prevalent. the degree of misinformation etc that is accessible right now is magnitudes above anything back in the 80ties.

better comparison would be nowadays leaving kids around sketchy adults that you do not know, or haven't screened in any way - 24/7


P.S. honeycrisp. red delicious is barely an apple. granny smith is great for certain applications, but to just eat? honeycrisp.

[Shadowferal]

Whenever me and my sibs went out, mom always sternly said, "Stay where I can see you."
No woods here. Just brick rowhomes.

I dunno; red delicious seem to go to mush pretty quick.

Not that fast for me. But I tend to munch on a bag full within a few days. If I need a bag to last longer I'll grab fuji apples.

P.S. honeycrisp. red delicious is barely an apple. granny smith is great for certain applications, but to just eat? honeycrisp.

Honeycrisp is good but pricey here.

[Muzjhath]

Dude, when I was growing up, it was absolutely plausible that on any given weekend or summer day that the weather allowed for, I'd be taking off in the morning and biking a mile or two away to meet with friends, often biking down powerline trails or similar wooded trails rather than using standard roads. I'd be gone all day, no "adult supervision" whatsoever, just be back before the streetlights come on. Not even "back for dinner" if I was getting dinner somewhere else. No cell phones they could reach me with because I wasn't a rich wall street banker in the late '80s. Even if it wasn't with friends, I'd disappear into the wooded section that lay between two branches of the local suburb (super hilly, wasn't feasible to carve it all out for houses), and I could be gone for hours there just as easily. Not usually for 5+, but that's more me getting bored and coming back on my own.

I wasn't remotely unique in that. You see those '80s movies where kids are taking off on their bikes and they're gone all day and their parents never have any idea what they're doing? That's not Hollywood nonsense. That's just how things were. Sure, it was also rapidly evolving into video games at that point, so often I was biking over to a friend's place to play video games for hours in his basement, but often, his parents weren't even home, so again, no supervision, though it was possible to call their place at least on the landline. But we weren't always doing that. We also did stupid kid shit.

Cell phones give parents direct access to their kid's location and a back door to their communications and activities. Even "turning them loose with a device" is way more restrictive than it was in yesteryear. Hell with a school gym, we were off in the woods throwing rocks at a wasp's nest we'd found.

Hell, this was in the early 00s but me and a friend used to bike to the city next to the town we live in to browse steareo equipment, browse CDs, and go to McDonalds. because when you're 11~12 taking 30-45 minutes to cykle to the next place over to eat hamburgers are kinda novel when you live in a place that doesn't have any.

[XDurionX]

Why is CmdrShep constantly triggered by tabloid bait?

[Shadowferal]

Why is CmdrShep constantly triggered by tabloid bait?

Hmmm...That bit in the title, something about "emotional and self-control problems?"

[P for Pancetta]

Forgot about witchhunts?

[Forogil]

Red Delicious for me. When they're just right, they really hit my sweet tooth with a nice firm crunch.

I've recently discovered Jazz (the apple-variant), and I really like it.

So, perhaps young people lack emotional support and look up to vapid influencers instead of vapid athletes, but at least they and the rest of us have better apples (I have to see if I can find honeycrisp as well).

[Muzjhath]

Seeing as this is another pointless post-and-run thread from this OP that he’ll never look at yet alone respond to making the many retorts pointing out that his initial reasoning is deeply flawed Unfortunately pointless, let’s make this thread a bit more productive:


Best kind of apple?

I’ve gotta go with Granny Smith. Good balance of sour and sweet and they retain a nice firm texture longer than any other apple.

Pink Lady, by far, for me.

[Coolface330]

How to explain this?

The Boomer generation, generations prior. Were all about that tough love, and shut up. Got symptoms that can alert a doctor? Shut up. Feeling emotions that are repressed? Shut up. Why do we have all have alcoholism and suicide problems later, Alex?

The problems were always there. You're simply being made aware of them now.

My personal theory - the video game Anno 1800. Once your society evolves enough, you start producing advanced citizens with advanced needs which will provide your society with advanced abilities and services.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Oh boy, this old chestnut again. Y'all really have a fixation with trying to demonise treatment for mental illness, huh?

"Serotonin deficiency is the cause of depression" isn't something that mainstream psychiatrists have been claiming in the first place. For starters, "depression" is not a singular disorder but encompasses a range of mood imbalances that can and do respond differently to different forms of treatment. The reason SSRIs are prescribed is because there is in fact quite a lot of evidence supporting that they can be an effective treatment for depression in many of those cases, even if the specific mechanism of action isn't entirely understood. This is the case for plenty of medications - both aspirin and acetaminophen (paracetamol for international folks), for instance, were available for decades before it was identified exactly how they worked. This is why your own link has to disclaim that it isn't an authoritative basis for determining the efficacy of SSRIs as a treatment for depression, let alone any other disorder.

So no, "more people are getting treated for depression might explain why more young people seem to suffer from mental illness" is not a claim that holds water even by the standards of the study you posted.

"They're trying to make us apathetic sheep with those serotonin blockers, wake up brother! Don't be a sheep! Don't get treatment for your mental health!"

/s

[kamuimac]

Back in the 90s and 2000s it would be unheard of for someone like this to do something like this.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...classmate.html

During the 2010s something has gone wrong with American society.

Should America give up on making "Millennials" and "Gen Z" better people?

Should the American government make sure the next generation of American youth are healthier, not likely to believe in conspiracy theories, and look up to astronauts as well as scientists rather than vapid "influencers" and "pro athletes"?

as time shows keeping your kids in "safe bubble" make them very troubled young adoults.

tbh its general problem of west - people are weak and focus on wrong things in life. a lot of children and adoults are lazy and dont want to work to achieve something in their life - they rather lean on social support. thats why all social support problems are pure evil imo - they breed laziness and unwillingness to work .

[unfilteredJW]

as time shows keeping your kids in "safe bubble" make them very troubled young adoults.

tbh its general problem of west - people are weak and focus on wrong things in life. a lot of children and adoults are lazy and dont want to work to achieve something in their life - they rather lean on social support. thats why all social support problems are pure evil imo - they breed laziness and unwillingness to work .

Toxic misanthropes like this don’t help.

[Rozz]

This thread is closed. There is little to be discussed that isn't reliant on generalizations that'll encourage poor conversation.