Mistweaver's mastery is so poorly designed compared to Preservation Evoker, imo.

[Pro-lifer]

I feel mistweaver has one of the worst mastery in the game. Just tried evoker and I feel evoker's mastery is designed much better. Do you think blizzard should overhaul mistweaver's mastery again in the future?

[anon5123]

MW being worse than the other healers is just what the spec was designed for. It's been subpar pretty much every single tier after MoP.

[Apatrida]

Agreed what "anon5123" wrote sarcastically. But why is that so? One bad tier, a bad expansion, okay. But every expansion the same cellar place for this role is sad. I know they were pretty overpowered when Pandaria launched and nerfed several times, but even Blizzard should realize that in PvP, M+, Raids there is not a single nice for Mistweaver anymore.

[anon5123]

Agreed what "anon5123" wrote sarcastically. But why is that so? One bad tier, a bad expansion, okay. But every expansion the same cellar place for this role is sad. I know they were pretty overpowered when Pandaria launched and nerfed several times, but even Blizzard should realize that in PvP, M+, Raids there is not a single nice for Mistweaver anymore.

Admittedly I didn't play a whole lot of retail, but every time I did, MW was the worst healer.

WoD? Worst. Legion? Worst. Shadowlands? Still the worst. It's just like...every single expac, Druid/Paladin/Shaman are so much better than MW, either in hps or utility or both.

[Utrrabbit]

MW being worse than the other healers is just what the spec was designed for. It's been subpar pretty much every single tier after MoP.

Cept its literally doimg better than more than 80% of the other classes in DF.

[Runicblood]

Cept its literally doimg better than more than 80% of the other classes in DF.

Threads like these are where you realize the people posting and commenting don't even play the game.
MW is actually doing very fine atm? What are you guys on about?

[anon5123]

"better than 80%!"
"very fine!"

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/ra...587&metric=hps
only 1 mw in the top 100, at #69

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/ra...639&metric=hps
only 3, at #54, 72 and 80

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/ra...590&metric=hps
only 1, at #87

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/ra...592&metric=hps
only 2, #79 and 88

I have to wonder why people lie about things that are easily disproven

"b-b-but that's mythic!"
it's the same case for heroic

[Ealyssa]

Cept its literally doimg better than more than 80% of the other classes in DF.

What other 80% of healers are worse please ?

[La]

Pres is what MW should've been in terms of 0 real DR or strong raidwide CDs, trading off with throughput. Instead it was the throughput healer that other healers always did just as much or more throughput as, and they brought what MW did not. Oddly at this point Preservation offers more than MW on all fronts

[Foolicious]

I feel mistweaver has one of the worst mastery in the game. Just tried evoker and I feel evoker's mastery is designed much better. Do you think blizzard should overhaul mistweaver's mastery again in the future?

It's fine. I played mistweaver when players constantly dodged your mastery so i take the current one anyday.

Pres is what MW should've been in terms of 0 real DR or strong raidwide CDs, trading off with throughput. Instead it was the throughput healer that other healers always did just as much or more throughput as, and they brought what MW did not. Oddly at this point Preservation offers more than MW on all fronts

I feel like after years of monk being the least played class they just gave up to really define what make mw special. Its always (insert healer x) but worse.

[LordVargK]

"better than 80%!"
"very fine!"

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/ra...587&metric=hps
only 1 mw in the top 100, at #69

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/ra...639&metric=hps
only 3, at #54, 72 and 80

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/ra...590&metric=hps
only 1, at #87

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/ra...592&metric=hps
only 2, #79 and 88

I have to wonder why people lie about things that are easily disproven

"b-b-but that's mythic!"
it's the same case for heroic

Why are you posting misdirecting statistics here?
Look at this: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/st...#class=Healers

That's the relevant statistic (filter for individual bosses for more information). MW not being in the top 100 means literally nothing. It's not better than 80% of all other healers, but it's certainly doing fine.

[Kklolz]

Why are you posting misdirecting statistics here?
Look at this: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/st...#class=Healers

That's the relevant statistic (filter for individual bosses for more information). MW not being in the top 100 means literally nothing. It's not better than 80% of all other healers, but it's certainly doing fine.

Those are damage logs.
This is the one for healing: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/st.../31#metric=hps

[Frostfred]

Why are you posting misdirecting statistics here?
Look at this: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/st...#class=Healers

That's the relevant statistic (filter for individual bosses for more information). MW not being in the top 100 means literally nothing. It's not better than 80% of all other healers, but it's certainly doing fine.

Im not gonna say too much the strength of healers relative to each other (no idea about that). But it's a dishonest take to measure healers' performances ONLY by their damage as you did there, completely disregarding healing, and calling someone else out on "misdirecting statistics".
On topic: Imo MW mastery is fine, but I agree that they could improve interaction with some of our toolkit.

[LordVargK]

Those are damage logs.
This is the one for healing: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/st.../31#metric=hps

Okay, i'm an idiot.

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Im not gonna say too much the strength of healers relative to each other (no idea about that). But it's a dishonest take to measure healers' performances ONLY by their damage as you did there, completely disregarding healing, and calling someone else out on "misdirecting statistics".
On topic: Imo MW mastery is fine, but I agree that they could improve interaction with some of our toolkit.

Yes, I'm sorry.

[Dejiko]

On the surface it doesn`t seem like the mastery affects fistweaving in any tangible way.
Could be cool if they baked Ancient Teachings into it, just without having to use EF first of course.

[w0nderd0g]

Yup. I spent all of shadowlands successfully raid fistweave healing by avoiding mastery on every gear piece as it was a dead stat. If it affected ancient teachings healing in some way it would be useful.