1. #7141
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Plus both he and Merithra need decent models.
    I'm still confused. Malfurion is "dead." Ysera is back. And yet Merithra is still the Green Aspect? I'm going to assume the rest of the expansion is going to be very Green & Red focused because they've gotten the least characterization so far.

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    Someone watched a completely different cinematic if you got that. I don't believe the Black Dragonflight storyline was a complete washup, just not what I expected. I do agree that Ebyssian should of popped up much sooner to soft prepare us for his Aspect declaration. I wish Wrathion was it but they'd have to rework his personality to be less impatient and that was not the case in DF so far.
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  3. #7143
    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    I'm still confused. Malfurion is "dead." Ysera is back. And yet Merithra is still the Green Aspect? I'm going to assume the rest of the expansion is going to be very Green & Red focused because they've gotten the least characterization so far.
    Ysera's return is explicitly only temporary.

  4. #7144
    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    Ysera's return is explicitly only temporary.
    But Malfurion's "death" is explicitly permanent. So.... seems extremely dumb.

  5. #7145
    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    But Malfurion's "death" is explicitly permanent. So.... seems extremely dumb.
    Please don't spread misinformation. Malfurion only has to stay while Ysera is in the world of the living. That was the condition set by the Winter Queen.

  6. #7146
    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    But Malfurion's "death" is explicitly permanent. So.... seems extremely dumb.
    I don't understand why every time you come in you spread false information about what's going on in Dragonflight. Do you even play the game? I doubt.

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    Ysera will obviously be involved in 10.2 given it will be about the Dream. She probably helps us save the dream whilst acting as a mentor to Merithra and once the patch is done she will go back to SL and Malfurion will come back. Doubt they keep her for longer than that.

    Odd we haven't seen her at all though, besides the one scene of her coming back.

  8. #7148
    Quote Originally Posted by Utsuko View Post
    I don't understand why every time you come in you spread false information about what's going on in Dragonflight. Do you even play the game? I doubt.
    You're telling me when Tyrande & Malfurion are saying their tearful goodbyes, and talking about the "agony" of their separation, its supposed to be temporary? Malfurion not only had nothing to do during while Tyrande was avenging their race, we know Malfurion spent *centuries* in the dream, away from Tyrande, like it was nothing. If its supposed to be temporary what is he even talking about? Malfurion canonically went years without seeing his wife *for fun*

    Malfurion is not coming back because the writers have explicitly told us they have nothing for him to do. They even talked about how they should have had Saurfang kill him for all they did with his character after that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scyth View Post
    Ysera will obviously be involved in 10.2 given it will be about the Dream. She probably helps us save the dream whilst acting as a mentor to Merithra and once the patch is done she will go back to SL and Malfurion will come back. Doubt they keep her for longer than that.

    Odd we haven't seen her at all though, besides the one scene of her coming back.
    Perhaps, though I really do suspect that part of Blizz's initial plan in that story was to remove Malfurion from Tyrande's side so that she could shine as the Night Elf leader. Perhaps it's just my cynicism, but I half suspect that even if Ysera goes back, Malfurion will need to stay behind to finish his work in Ardenweald or some such mulligan to keep him off Azeroth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    You're telling me when Tyrande & Malfurion are saying their tearful goodbyes, and talking about the "agony" of their separation, its supposed to be temporary? Malfurion not only had nothing to do during while Tyrande was avenging their race, we know Malfurion spent *centuries* in the dream, away from Tyrande, like it was nothing. If its supposed to be temporary what is he even talking about? Malfurion canonically went years without seeing his wife *for fun*

    Malfurion is not coming back because the writers have explicitly told us they have nothing for him to do. They even talked about how they should have had Saurfang kill him for all they did with his character after that.
    Danuser literally compared it to Persephone and stated that they swapped places.
    It was a trade.

    If it wasn't blatant in the dialogue, it was blatant with his interview forever ago.

  11. #7151
    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    Malfurion is not coming back because the writers have explicitly told us they have nothing for him to do. They even talked about how they should have had Saurfang kill him for all they did with his character after that.
    Would love to see where they said that.

  12. #7152
    Quote Originally Posted by Berkilak View Post
    Dude was literally introduced as dying and holding onto the last fraying strands of life. That was his character. The only place to progress his character was into death. And they did so gracefully. Sindragosa was already dead. What else did you expect?
    That he survived legion just to die here.
    Sindragosa waa obvious as well, but they needed an increase in their roster, so why the trouble >.>

  13. #7153
    Quote Originally Posted by Alanar View Post
    That he survived legion just to die here.
    Sindragosa waa obvious as well, but they needed an increase in their roster, so why the trouble >.>
    But they did increase their roster? Every dragon you've brought back got several moments to show their personality. They are all now part of the roster.

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    So World Revamp is probably out of the question now as in not happening?

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    It's weird how Ebonhorn wasn't a character in 10.0 when he was one of the NPCs in Orgrimmar and the equivalent to Wrathion in the Prepatch and was even featured in the Dracthyr Intro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    It's weird how Ebonhorn wasn't a character in 10.0 when he was one of the NPCs in Orgrimmar and the equivalent to Wrathion in the Prepatch and was even featured in the Dracthyr Intro.
    Ebonhorn absolutely started on equal grounds with Wrathion this expac. It's just that in the Waking Shores quests they kind of forgot about him. He should have been one of the quest givers at the Obsidian Citadel and he should have been at the Ruby Life Pools waiting for Wrathion and Sabellian with Alexstrasza.

  17. #7157
    Quote Originally Posted by Melorandor View Post
    So World Revamp is probably out of the question now as in not happening?
    It could still happen, but I'm not getting my hopes high for 11.0. I think Avaloren/Other Side of Azeroth is the likeliest at this point.

  18. #7158
    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    You're telling me when Tyrande & Malfurion are saying their tearful goodbyes, and talking about the "agony" of their separation, its supposed to be temporary? Malfurion not only had nothing to do during while Tyrande was avenging their race, we know Malfurion spent *centuries* in the dream, away from Tyrande, like it was nothing. If its supposed to be temporary what is he even talking about? Malfurion canonically went years without seeing his wife *for fun*

    Malfurion is not coming back because the writers have explicitly told us they have nothing for him to do. They even talked about how they should have had Saurfang kill him for all they did with his character after that.
    Maybe look at the actual explicitly laid out rules for the swap, not just the contextual clues that support your view. It's temporary.

    The last two times Malfurion was away from her he was in danger. Of course Tyrande isn't going to be happy with him leaving. That doesn't mean it's permanent.

    He'll be back when the writers come up with something for him to do at the latest.

  19. #7159
    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    You're telling me when Tyrande & Malfurion are saying their tearful goodbyes, and talking about the "agony" of their separation, its supposed to be temporary?
    Ysera herself says in a dialogue with Tyrande following the quests that it's temporary.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    Malfurion is not coming back because the writers have explicitly told us they have nothing for him to do.
    Again, you affirm false information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fahrad Wagner View Post
    It could still happen, but I'm not getting my hopes high for 11.0. I think Avaloren/Other Side of Azeroth is the likeliest at this point.
    That's what I think too. There are far too many clues in the game that lead to Avaloren/Tel'Abim. I even wonder if a revamp will happen one day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alanar View Post
    That he survived legion just to die here.
    Sindragosa waa obvious as well, but they needed an increase in their roster, so why the trouble >.>
    What benefit does his continued survival bring, other than contributing to some sort of arbitrary quota? He got to die on his own terms, in his own time, with the people he chose. It's a profoundly rare death in fiction. And one I thought the WoW writers handled extremely well, which is a rarity. Credit where credit is due - all of this was a good thing.

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