1. #24981
    Quote Originally Posted by Lolites View Post
    you know what, give me huge rideable corgi and im in
    Horse-sized friendly talking corgi race?

  2. #24982
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Odyn sent ships AFTER those heretics had killed a titan Keeper there. So the Keepers already had arrived before. He could not reach Avaloren after BECAUSE of the defenses erected. And we have no evidence so far that Khaz Algar and Avaloren are the same place. They are probably close or the same because of conservation of detail but we don't have any evidence that it is true.
    Do we know they killed a Titan Keeper?

    Do we know they did whatever they did to her on Avaloren, or might it have occured elsewhere?

    The fact remains that he used (by the looks of things) ships of some kind, not advanced space alien technology. When you read about Earthen lore, and how they spread across the world, you don't really come across any mentioning of ships, especially none that can withstand the supposedly immense storms of the west. You typicall read that they move through mountains and tunnels and stuff, shaping the earth below the surface.

  3. #24983
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Horse-sized friendly talking corgi race?
    no, pony sized, humanoid, and riding huge corgis
    bcs it absolutely wont be weird same way like highmountain riding moose or dracthyr flying around on dragons

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImTheMizAwesome View Post
    hell yeah, corgi mount.
    you know it!
    wait, whens the next year of the dog?!

  4. #24984
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    You accept the shitty writing.
    I don't.
    Name a more iconic duo than WoW fans and hyping up things and inventing headcanon.

    On the same level as "Old Gods are invincible and we shouldn't be able to kill them!".

    Because having invincible gods is such good writing.

  5. #24985
    Quote Originally Posted by Worldshaper View Post
    Do we know they killed a Titan Keeper?

    Do we know they did whatever they did to her on Avaloren, or might it have occured elsewhere?

    The fact remains that he used (by the looks of things) ships of some kind, not advanced space alien technology. When you read about Earthen lore, and how they spread across the world, you don't really come across any mentioning of ships, especially none that can withstand the supposedly immense storms of the west. You typicall read that they move through mountains and tunnels and stuff, shaping the earth below the surface.
    There is a portal from Un'goro to Sholazar. Maybe there is one from Uldorus to Avaloren.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
    When are you running into anything
    In every single second of doing those quests?

    People kept spamming over Velens dialogues in the man'ari quests.
    Tyr's tomb was chock full with people doing the same and despite the quick respawn timer, there were so many people that the guardian mobs you had to kill were immediately greyed out.

    Same thing with the nelven heritage set.
    Where i had to spent 15 minutes doing the initial quests because everything either greyed out or died instantly, and i had to sit in the queue twice to kill the Nathrezim at the end.

    The only story quests that aren't majorly affected by this are the ones that branch out and send you to different locations on the map, so people are spread out all over.
    E.g Tyrs guard/Blue dragons.

    the few hour window at the very start of content release where everyone is trying to do the thing at once?
    Idk on what weird, empty and disconnected realm you are playing on, but this issue persists for the first few days and not just the first few hours.

    My schedule is chock full with work and school, so i either get to do it on wednesday evening immediately or late over the weekends.
    And there is barely a difference at either times in my experience.

    People shouldn't be forced to wait several days just to experience an newly available questline in peace.

    And i'm not saying "instance everything", just put up a scenario for the narratively more important quests or quests that specifically require your character in the focus.


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  7. #24987
    Quote Originally Posted by Lolites View Post
    wait, whens the next year of the dog?!
    We are in a rabbit year so we are a bit off. 2030
    Dragon, Snake, Horse, Goat, Monkey, Rooster and then Dog. I think we got Dog first? (Shu-zen) He is a good boy, but not a corgi.
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  8. #24988
    Quote Originally Posted by ImTheMizAwesome View Post
    I hope next expansion opening cinematic has the same amount of "badass'ery" as WoD cinematic had.

    something that will make you pump and yell in your mind "fuck yeah!"




    hell yeah, corgi mount.
    I take every goofy mount before this one as a personal insult
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashrana View Post
    So, what would be your reaction, if you found out, that come cata release first patch, blizzard were planning to kill everyone by sending a bear through the mail?

  9. #24989
    Quote Originally Posted by Samin View Post
    I take every goofy mount before this one as a personal insult
    i think you found the mount that will get us to new expansion.

  10. #24990
    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    Because having invincible gods is such good writing.
    If an ant had a degree of consciousness at any level comparable to human, it'd view any human as a potential destructive natural event as an earthquake at best. At the worst, an extinction level event.

  11. #24991
    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    What makes you think they are aware of anything that goes on on Azeroth?

    They spent an eternity half dead, getting tortured on Argus or hiding in some corner of reality, only to end up as Garrys prison guards afterwards.
    Not only are they weakened after the conflict, they are using all their concentration to make sure Garry doesn't go on a genocide spree again.

    Iridikron is fully free and is backed by the very force that can see and prophecise potential futures.
    He is in the perfect position to fuck over the titans.
    The Void isn't a prophetic cheat code though. It doesn't just see fully realized potential futures. It sees all paths, but not your destiny, aka the true path. Or probably for that matter the outcome of any of these paths. The other thing is: Iridikron has sworn that he'll wait for the Titans to reclaim their prize. Aka they'll come intervene whatever he is going to do to stop him. That's not gonna do shit if they aren't paying attention to what's happening or have some flow of information coming in. For all we know, provoking them to action means Sargeras breaks free, which means we have a planet-sized Titan back on a rampage, who's precise goal is NOT to let the Void take Azeroth at any cost (even destroying Azeroth). That doesn't track with Iridikron's fundamental reason for conflict in the first place, the Ordering of Azeroth.

    For once, I might even feel like the villains' main goal, at least with Iridikron didn't start out as or may not come down to wanting to destroy the planet so much as swap the flag it is waving. If anything Xal'atath is going to push him further that direction by aligning with voidier goals.
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  12. #24992
    Quote Originally Posted by Worldshaper View Post
    Green dragon flew west beyond the storms and never returned. Possibly created her own brood somehow.

    Khaz Algar (Sector AR-938) is separated from Northrend by a vast distance. Has a fissure that alters the effects of the Curse of Flesh. There is some type of mount from here, which rides the storm.

    Nightsquall was able to sail west through the storm and return. He has set his eyes on something major and wants to form a pirate fleet.

    Odyn's watchers sent several expeditions to a place beyond the shores of Kalimdor, but they were all destroyed. "Heretics" live there, with sophisticated weaponry. Did something to a Keeper.

    Are there any other specific references to the other side of Azeroth so far, that I'm forgetting?

    I wonder if this all connects back to one continent, of if we're watching Blizzard plant the seeds for multiple future expansions all taking place on the other side of Azeroth. For example, at BlizzCon they could do a grand reveal of "the other side", but for 11.0 we only focus on the first continent we discover, which is the one beyond the storms. But this might not be the same continent the green dragon flew to, or that Nightsquall discovered.

    Just a thought. Seems strange if they'd spend all of their current breadcrumbs on the same expansion.

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    Come to think of it, are we assuming the earthen at Khaz Algar travelled there through underground tunnels? Because otherwise I don't see how Khaz Algar could be a separate continent from Kalimdor. They would either have travelled by other means than walking across the land, or Khaz Algar would need to be one of the fragment continents that were originally part of Ancient Kalimdor.
    I mean Avaloren and Sector AR-938 (aka Khaz'Algar) can't be the same place, the question is, whether they will include it in the same expansion, whether one of them will be a patch island etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlamin View Post
    No shot the argument has come down to a up to 40 minute difference. I don't think this is going to go anywhere, you two.
    Nah, the argument is that a Dragonriding mount isn’t as good a reward as a standard mount. And it simply is not on multiple levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dismayxz View Post
    The Void isn't a prophetic cheat code though.
    I never said it was.

    As flawed as their visions are, they are still usable and can be planned around.


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  15. #24995
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    We are in a rabbit year so we are a bit off. 2030
    Dragon, Snake, Horse, Goat, Monkey, Rooster and then Dog. I think we got Dog first? (Shu-zen) He is a good boy, but not a corgi.
    shame...
    though snake and monkey could be interesting

  16. #24996
    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    I never said it was.
    "that can see and prophecise potential futures."

    Made it sound like that to me, because there are clear limitations to that sight that make it kind of.. technically really, really useless as a benefit of the Void, since you're only getting half of a deal you'd want the full delivery on for it to be any real good.

    That being said, I also didn't mean to say you directly insinuated or said so, it was simply how I interpreted the message and no intentional offense was meant there.

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    What if the fissure in Khaz Algar is the entrance to Avaloren? Or some kind of shortcut to avoid the sea storms?

  18. #24998
    Quote Originally Posted by Jaggler View Post
    I mean Avaloren and Sector AR-938 (aka Khaz'Algar) can't be the same place, the question is, whether they will include it in the same expansion, whether one of them will be a patch island etc.
    No real reason they can't be the same honestly. The Dwarves of Khaz'algar named the island they live on Avaloren.
    The world revamp dream will never die!

  19. #24999
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Nah, the argument is that a Dragonriding mount isn’t as good a reward as a standard mount. And it simply is not on multiple levels.
    you never actually addressed the heroic edition mount having a dragonriding cup named after it. That's the biggest thing. Nor, the second biggest thing, that all they need to do is flip a switch & dragonriding will be possible in every zone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dismayxz View Post
    "that can see and prophecise potential futures."

    Made it sound like that to me, because there are clear limitations to that sight that make it kind of.. technically really, really useless as a benefit of the Void, since you're only getting half of a deal you'd want the full delivery on for it to be any real good.

    That being said, I also didn't mean to say you directly insinuated or said so, it was simply how I interpreted the message and no intentional offense was meant there.
    Yogg corrupted and manipulated his way through Azeroth and the keepers, almost getting unleashed onto the world.
    And N'zoth almost managed to corrupt the planet twice.

    While they are not 'prophetic cheat codes', the void is more than capable of using its abilities to plan out a path to a potential future where they win.
    Which was my entire point.

    Their power is not in any way shape or form useless.


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