1. #27241
    Dinar should be from the start of an expansion and act like how the tier crafting is now except maybe a week or 2 longer than it is now and 1 every few weeks to make it not too OP

  2. #27242
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    Quote Originally Posted by Worldshaper View Post
    Char Customization Options
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    Effects Style - Starlight - Name changed from "Effects Style - New 03" to "Effects Style - Starlight".

    I wonder what this is, but it sounds like something that'll make a lot of people happy. New version of the starlight glyph?
    Yeah, that's intriguing. Effects style? I'm wondering if they are doing spell customization for Balance spells? While I havent checked out the ptr, they've got to be using new spell effects for the druid of the flame version of druid spells, right?
    So maybe Starlight is the default cosmic magic druids use, and there will be an option for flame variant (and maybe nature magic, considering we are spending time in the EMERALD FREAKING DREAM)?

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    Speaking of druids, any hint that they have plans to or have given Glyph of Stars the same treatment as the Shadowform glyph (lessened the intensity of the form appearance)?
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  3. #27243
    Quote Originally Posted by Merryck View Post
    You're saying he's forcing the storm drakes to stay loyal to him? Wouldn't be out of character
    I don't know if this means anything, but I did find this little tidbit in Wowpedia about the Storm Drakes

    At BlizzCon 2015, the storm dragons were described as "a fledgling new dragonflight". This idea that they were a new dragon type was abandoned rather quickly, as the storm dragons are said to have existed since ancient times.
    This is speculation on my part, but with this context it gives the idea that the Storm Drakes were probably something Tyr created but were abandoned (either because he saw them as a failed experiment or that he died before he could continue working with them)... Either way, Odyn finds them and tries to put them under his control out of fear they might turn violent and disobedient.

    Which leads up to where we have to free them with Vyranoth.

  4. #27244
    Quote Originally Posted by Worldshaper View Post
    Char Customization Options
    Accessories
    Effects Style - Starlight - Name changed from "Effects Style - New 03" to "Effects Style - Starlight".

    I wonder what this is, but it sounds like something that'll make a lot of people happy. New version of the starlight glyph?
    As much as I'd like to see alternate spell effects like a Druid of the Flame option, that seems to just be part of the Moonkin customization. You can choose a glow effect and color.

    https://youtu.be/fiukGZPPf08?t=92

  5. #27245
    Quote Originally Posted by Ferlion View Post
    I know this is controversial..

    But I'm at the point where I'd prefer less 8+ boss raids. Give me 2-3 boss raids, but 3 raids per tier. Or 4 and 2.

    More small raids feels like there is more raid content than one giant raid, even if that isn't the case from number of encounters standpoint.
    I’m in the camp of more dungeons please.

  6. #27246
    Quote Originally Posted by Bwgmon View Post
    Wait until you're reminded that Odyn tends to take a "loyalty or else" mindset, a la the unending mess he caused with Helya.
    My life for Odyn!

  7. #27247
    I REALLY (REALLY!) hope they have a good explanation if 10.2 is indeed the last major patch of the expansion. i don't care about 10.2.5 and 10.2.7, those patches are not actual content imo. they charged people 10 more dollars only to deliver the lowest amount of content they've ever made
    Last edited by Reive; 2023-10-11 at 06:03 AM.

  8. #27248
    Quote Originally Posted by Eldryth View Post
    As much as I'd like to see alternate spell effects like a Druid of the Flame option, that seems to just be part of the Moonkin customization. You can choose a glow effect and color.

    https://youtu.be/fiukGZPPf08?t=92
    It's pretty obscene how much crap druids get.

  9. #27249
    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
    It's pretty obscene how much crap druids get.
    it's their patch after all

  10. #27250
    Quote Originally Posted by Zebir95 View Post
    I REALLY (REALLY!) hope they have a good explanation if 10.2 is indeed the last major patch of the expansion. i don't care about 10.2.5 and 10.2.7, those patches are not actual content imo. they charged people 10 more dollars only to deliver the lowest amount of content they've ever made
    1. Not the lowest amount of content

    But also
    Wildfires
    Storms
    Employee problems

  11. #27251
    Quote Originally Posted by Zebir95 View Post
    I REALLY (REALLY!) hope they have a good explanation if 10.2 is indeed the last major patch of the expansion. i don't care about 10.2.5 and 10.2.7, those patches are actual content imo. they charged people 10 more dollars only to deliver the lowest amount of content they've ever made
    I mean maybe it's not viewed as a big success behind the scenes, even when sub retention is higher than before, DF was practically on high discount for most of its cadence so far.

    Im not a good numbers guy and such, but i guess sub retention being higher is not the only thing that might matter for them but i might be also talking out of my arse and maybe they just planned this expansion to only have 2 major patches from the beginning.

    Im not that big of a DF fan, but i think that if they won't have any at least 1 boss raid or something and fyrakk will the be final boss, it will be quite disappointing to see.
    Not only sarkareth being one of the most random end bosses before fyrakk makes the thing even worse in my opinion.

  12. #27252
    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Atia View Post
    I don't know, diablo4 and hearthstone both have quite cool battlepasses so I wouldn't mind something like that for WoW, with the current trading post being the "free to play" version. Would also prolly be cheeper for me as I currently run two wow accounts 'cause of the weirdly small character limit ...
    I am not exaggerating when I say you are the only person I ve seen since the launch of D4 that has actually called the D4 battlepass cool. It's one of the worst battlepasses I have ever seen.

  13. #27253
    Quote Originally Posted by Revamp Man View Post
    1. Not the lowest amount of content

    But also
    Wildfires
    Storms
    Employee problems
    they hired 200 more people to work on the game. what are they doing?

    Also, it is the lowest amount of content they've ever made. they just cut content from major patches to spread it out in those mini patches.

    Quote Originally Posted by ImTheMizAwesome View Post
    I mean maybe it's not viewed as a big success behind the scenes, even when sub retention is higher than before, DF was practically on high discount for most of its cadence so far.

    Im not a good numbers guy and such, but i guess sub retention being higher is not the only thing that might matter for them but i might be also talking out of my arse and maybe they just planned this expansion to only have 2 major patches from the beginning.

    Im not that big of a DF fan, but i think that if they won't have any at least 1 boss raid or something and fyrakk will the be final boss, it will be quite disappointing to see.
    Not only sarkareth being one of the most random end bosses before fyrakk makes the thing even worse in my opinion.
    No way they only planned 2 major patches. they're trying to pull another wod, but this time they can't afford it. wow is not doing great and 1 year without content would be a death sentence.

  14. #27254
    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmicpreds View Post
    Fym lead absolutely nowhere? The Jailer nearly remade reality using it.
    Could have literally done that with any other plot device given how everything was set up in Shadowlands.

    I'll give them credit for bringing back the Forge of Souls, but 'Azerite' itself is not really as important. It's a convenience. The Forge being used to siphon the soul of Azeroth would be more than enough explanation and works just as well without Azerite being a component at all.
    Last edited by Triceron; 2023-10-11 at 06:35 AM.

  15. #27255
    Quote Originally Posted by ImTheMizAwesome View Post
    I mean maybe it's not viewed as a big success behind the scenes, even when sub retention is higher than before, DF was practically on high discount for most of its cadence so far.

    Im not a good numbers guy and such, but i guess sub retention being higher is not the only thing that might matter for them but i might be also talking out of my arse and maybe they just planned this expansion to only have 2 major patches from the beginning.

    Im not that big of a DF fan, but i think that if they won't have any at least 1 boss raid or something and fyrakk will the be final boss, it will be quite disappointing to see.
    Not only sarkareth being one of the most random end bosses before fyrakk makes the thing even worse in my opinion.
    Retention is a very misleading stat and I doubt they use it to evaluate anything internally so it was probably just used for PR because they cant say anything else.

    By all available data the DF raw playercount is not great and one of the only things that really causes big player count spikes are expansions so it makes complete sense why they want to move to 11.0 as quickly as possible(as theyve done with WoD and SL before).

    This Blizzcon is absolutely crucial for them.

  16. #27256
    Quote Originally Posted by Zebir95 View Post
    I REALLY (REALLY!) hope they have a good explanation if 10.2 is indeed the last major patch of the expansion. i don't care about 10.2.5 and 10.2.7, those patches are not actual content imo. they charged people 10 more dollars only to deliver the lowest amount of content they've ever made
    https://www.wowhead.com/news/permane...0-2-ptr-335456
    Permanent Augment Rune added. It IS the final raid for sure. Which makes this the expansion with lowest number of raid bosses.

  17. #27257
    Quote Originally Posted by Zebir95 View Post
    they hired 200 more people to work on the game. what are they doing?

    Also, it is the lowest amount of content they've ever made. they just cut content from major patches to spread it out in those mini patches.
    I don't think those 200 people they hired are meant to work on DF, but the next expansion over.

    Especially since they acquired them midway through DF's development.

  18. #27258
    The only reason I can think of for not having another major patch is they plan to release the next xpac a lot earlier than a year after announcing it. Nothing else makes sense tbh
    We'll find it out in a few weeks I guess.

  19. #27259
    Quote Originally Posted by Scyth View Post
    The only reason I can think of for not having another major patch is they plan to release the next xpac a lot earlier than a year after announcing it. Nothing else makes sense tbh
    We'll find it out in a few weeks I guess.
    I wouldn't go getting my hopes up on a faster release cadence. They've been pretending they can pull off a sub 9 month drought for over a decade now and still haven't managed it.

  20. #27260
    Quote Originally Posted by justwatching View Post
    Retention is a very misleading stat and I doubt they use it to evaluate anything internally so it was probably just used for PR because they cant say anything else.

    By all available data the DF raw playercount is not great and one of the only things that really causes big player count spikes are expansions so it makes complete sense why they want to move to 11.0 as quickly as possible(as theyve done with WoD and SL before).

    This Blizzcon is absolutely crucial for them.
    Yeah, i mean just looking at it very casually if everything would be going really great when it comes to the game player activity and statistics, something like 10.3 a major patch would happen without any "datamined" stuff leading to thinking that i won't.

    Also i mentioned the constant discount which is great for players, but when it happens so often for other games it usually means that the sales don't go that well.

    They might be releasing next expansion early or something, but besides that i would think that something behind the scenes ain't working like they thought it will.

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