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    Quote Originally Posted by Jodmos View Post
    For anyone interested, Taliesin has a new video out about all the leaks so far. Not for the faint hearted as it's 1 hour 20 minutes. Probably just the same speculation as has been here for each 'leak'.
    I listened to it earlier, it wasnt bad i do like some of Tali's views as hes a huge lore nerd and is generally quite good with his predictions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pacotaco View Post
    Wait, where's that Draenei render from? First time I've seen it, I think.
    From BfA.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pacotaco View Post
    Wait, where's that Draenei render from? First time I've seen it, I think.
    I'm pretty sure that's the draenie next to anduin and the final shot from the BFA cinematic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Atia View Post
    Maybe from Arclight Rumble?
    I just watched arclight cinematics at least those that i found and it didn't have a scene like that.

    I guess it has to be from some HS expansion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiriastrasza View Post
    I listened to it earlier, it wasnt bad i do like some of Tali's views as hes a huge lore nerd and is generally quite good with his predictions.
    I do think he does the lore and speculation well because he goes through stuff I'd no idea existed.

  6. #28346
    Quote Originally Posted by Randris View Post
    Interesting they featured Starcraft several times in that trailer. I don't want to read too much into it but maybe there's a sliver of hope we could get something new in the Starcraft universe down the road....?
    I'm not really one for reading a lot into advertising snippets as secret teasers, but it is odd how front and center Starcraft has been in the Blizzard IP reels since they announced the buyout. It's only one tier above HotS in terms of focus right now (SC2 still gets balance patches, I believe HotS is purely just keeping the servers running?)

    I know Phil Spencer mentioned wanting to bring it back, but he mentions how cool it would be to bring back every single IP they own. I think he forgot they've been licensing the Mechwarrior IP to Piranha Games for over a decade now and was wistfully musing about bringing it back the other week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImTheMizAwesome View Post
    I just watched arclight cinematics at least those that i found and it didn't have a scene like that.

    I guess it has to be from some HS expansion.

    First time seeing it as well. My bet are HS, HotS or Warcraft Rumble. The style of murlocs, Grommas and animation gives off those vibes. Maybe HotS revival with Grommash new hero?

  8. #28348
    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    From BfA.
    Never saw this before. Kind of funny that there's no gnome in it.

  9. #28349
    Quote Originally Posted by Jodmos View Post
    Never saw this before. Kind of funny that there's no gnome in it.
    Oh the gnome got punted off

    To be honest Gnomes ruin anything so im glad they're under represented.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImTheMizAwesome View Post
    I just watched arclight cinematics at least those that i found and it didn't have a scene like that.

    I guess it has to be from some HS expansion.
    Didn't look like HS style although I've not paid attention to any of that stuff for years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harbour View Post
    First time seeing it as well. My bet are HS, HotS or Warcraft Rumble. The style of murlocs, Grommas and animation gives off those vibes. Maybe HotS revival with Grommash new hero?
    Honestly it was one of the biggest "what the hell?" when it comes to not having Grommash as playable hero in Hots.

    I will look through some HS trailers, but so far can't find the exact scene.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santandame View Post
    - Night Elves: The NE heritage storyline wasn’t the best indication of what could come.
    We went through a whole ARC spanning several expansions, not even Orcs had this much development and story. Once the elves settle in, Blizz needs to stop focusing on the Night Elves for a while because it's becoming exhausting trying to both process and keep this story going. As Tyrande said it herself, "I am so tired, Malfurion."

    Less is more as some say.

    - Dwarves - I think it’s time to age up Dagran in game and explore his character. There’s a lot of diverse Dwarf characters that could and should get development such as Moira, Falstad, Muradin, Kurdran. I don’t know why we’re stuck with Dwarf characters like Toddy instead. Also some more focus on Dark Irons that isn’t just Thaelin.
    I've said this premise a few times already and it needs to be hammered in.
    Dagran is probably the most crucial part to Dwarf lore right now. The whole existence of the Council of Three Hammers is built solely because Moira can raise him and be a better leader so that he'll take the throne. If something happens to him like he got kidnapped by a radical group of Dark Irons that don't like the direction Moira is taking the kingdom (LIKE THE FUCKING CULT OF RAGNAROS) then not only would the Council fall apart but it could push the dwarves back into a second civil war. (I'd like to call The War of the Ashen Hammer)

    It's all set, Blizz just needs to do it.

    - Draenei: Probably the best position out of all the Alliance races, development wise. Velen is a decent character, and we got plenty development of Draenei characters in WoD and Legion. We’ll hopefully get some more with a spotlight on how Draenei society struggles to adapt with Manari, LF and Broken.
    The problem with the Draenei is that they only ever get involved with the plot if it involves the Legion or the Orcs. We rarely see them interact with other things going on in the world aside from that starting zone areas for them... and that one case in the Swamp of Sorrows where they were trying to fix the Lost Ones. The biggest possible plot line I could see is maybe if someone stole and scattered the Ata'mal Crystal shards across Azeroth and we have to go on a giant search for each piece. Those things are basically the Infinity Stones/Lantern Corp rings of WoW.

    - Worgen: I imagine we’ll see more with the hopeful Gilneas reclamation event. However outside of Genn who is probably the best written character on the Alliance side, they don’t get much representation. Hopefully the Bloodfang pack are reintroduced at some point.
    What concerns me the most is that the Bloodfang pack was suppose to be holding territory in Fenris Isle... but then the Scarlet Crusade took it as a field base to launch against Lordaeron. And Genn is perhaps probably the only rational leader in the Alliance, even warned her daughter that being a Worgen isn't all that cracked up to be (though it did lead to the worst heritage armor questline in the whole game.) Though it does raise the question of how Genn will view the Forsaken now that Sylvanas is out of the picture.

    If anything, it'd be interesting to see Gilneans look back at the roots of Classic human culture and see if they have connections to the Thornspeakers like the Kul'tirans (who were an offshoot of Gilneans who sailed across the sea and founded Kul'tiras).

  13. #28353
    Quote Originally Posted by Jodmos View Post
    Never saw this before. Kind of funny that there's no gnome in it.
    Lol mate, there IS a gnome in this image. I'm not sure how you missed it.
    The gnome is behind the logo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ImTheMizAwesome View Post
    Is this one from Hearthstone? havent' seen it before.

    I don't recall ever seeing it previously and can't find it now. That's unusual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santandame View Post
    I think Azshara is wasted as a typical villain. She could fill the role of a character that is clearly a villain but is willing to work with us as and when she needs to.

    I’d love to have her present for several expansions where we begrudgingly work with each other before the inevitable betrayal. I don’t think that’s a villain that’s been explored yet in WoW?
    Tbh I honestly think that’ll be a thing. It would be neat and could be a way to introduce playable Naga.

    Remember that Forsaken when they were originally introduced were a similar way, their intro literally said they were really only using The Horde to meet their goals.

    And DKs in a sense were similar in that they started out as 100% the villains but later rejoined the factions becoming more anti-heroes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ImTheMizAwesome View Post
    Is this one from Hearthstone? havent' seen it before.

    It can't be from Hearthstone because they use 2D illustrations for their trailers and not fully 3D rendered models.

    Warcraft Rumble (aka Arclight Rumble) uses 3D but not in this level of detail, the ones used in Warcraft Rumble look more like toys and action figures.

    And this isn't extremely detailed enough to be a WoW Cinematic, especially since Grommash is dead at this point.

    So either one of few things.
    A. This is just something they made for a bit fun to the trailer and has no hidden meaning behind it.
    B. This could've been a scrapped bit of animation for Grommash in HotS.
    or C. Something in relation to WC3...

    (My money is on A.)

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    Looks like Ironforge maybe in the background? It's a bit "cartoony" for a proper WoW CGI cinematic. Surely Rumble or somesuch, maybe Warcraft 4?
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    maybe a new warcraft game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImTheMizAwesome View Post
    Ogrila + Chicken fingers = 20 letters = 20th wow anniversary = ogres playable race at the end of 2024.
    It is my quest to keep posting this until it happens:
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