1. #31341
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Which means nothing. Classes are based on warcraft hero characters and giving the players playable versions of those heroes, not random questlines.

    Arthas/Lich King >> Death Knights
    Chen Stormstout >> Monks
    Illidan Stormrage >> Demon Hunters
    Alexstraza/Kalecgos/Nozdormu/etc. >> Evokers
    Gazlowe >> Tinkers

    ????? >> Bards

    Hence the problem.
    ETC???? 10char

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    Christ almighty.

    Can't even jokingly mention bards anymore without the tinker brigade marching in.


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  3. #31343
    Quote Originally Posted by Paula Deen View Post
    ETC???? 10char
    That doesn't support Teriz' point, thus it isn't real. You know the drill.

  4. #31344
    Quote Originally Posted by PotHockets View Post
    The hints and coincidences are all there for a revamp expansion I just dont think anyone actually wants to get their hopes up for it.
    Getting hopes up might not be a good idea I think. It's fun to speculate though \o/

    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
    I dunno why you'd do that when WC3 characters appear all the time in expansions not located in EK/Kalimdor.
    Main reason this sort of gets my attention is the amount of updated models datamined over the past months or even year, and they seem to be focusing on two very key characters from Warcraft 3 specifically for these Blizzcon Promo music videos so far, which is what they are. It's true that characters from WC3 appear a lot in places that's not EK/Kalimdor, I do however think this is quite on the nose a focus on "home" from these videos.


    That being said it is probably just generic music promos, but a man can dream

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paula Deen View Post
    ETC???? 10char
    The ETC is a parody of a heavy metal band full of Blizzard employees. I'm not even sure he actually exists in the lore, because he's never participated in any major event in the history of the game.

  6. #31346
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Which means nothing. Classes are based on warcraft hero characters and giving the players playable versions of those heroes, not random questlines.

    Arthas/Lich King >> Death Knights
    Chen Stormstout >> Monks
    Illidan Stormrage >> Demon Hunters
    Alexstraza/Kalecgos/Nozdormu/etc. >> Evokers
    Gazlowe/Mekkatorque >> Tinkers

    ????? >> Bards

    Hence the problem.
    It's weird that you're going with Gazlowe for a Tinker and not the super obvious layup of Mekkatorque.

    Also ETC exists.

    Jk you edited Mekkatorque before I could respond lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Which means nothing. Classes are based on warcraft hero characters and giving the players playable versions of those heroes, not random questlines.

    Arthas/Lich King >> Death Knights
    Chen Stormstout >> Monks
    Illidan Stormrage >> Demon Hunters
    Alexstraza/Kalecgos/Nozdormu/etc. >> Evokers
    Gazlowe/Mekkatorque >> Tinkers

    ????? >> Bards

    Hence the problem.
    The dragons/evoker connection is pretty weak at least in the sense of getting "playable versions of those heroes". It's really not the same fantasy at all. Imo Evokers are proof new classes don't need to be rooted in the old RTS heroes.
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    So, what would be your reaction, if you found out, that come cata release first patch, blizzard were planning to kill everyone by sending a bear through the mail?

  8. #31348
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    The ETC is a parody of a heavy metal band full of Blizzard employees. I'm not even sure he actually exists in the lore, because he's never participated in any major event in the history of the game.
    ETC has as much "Lore" as Chen had before MoP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trazzle View Post
    I swear, if we get something like bards before Tinkers, devs clearly hate the IP they’re developing for. Or simply have no passion for what is Warcraft.
    Bard is an iconic staple fantasy classes. Tinker, not necessarily.

  10. #31350
    Quote Originally Posted by Paula Deen View Post
    ETC???? 10char
    He's spent hundreds of pages trying to deny ETC exists. Instead I'd just press him that the aspects are emphatically not Evokers.
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    We have faction leaders and races that are Tinkers. We also have an unexplored landmass (Undermine) where the Tinker's Union exists.
    Because it's a profession, not a form of combat. A tinker builds the mech, he doesn't necessarily drive it. Some people just happen to do both.
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    On the other hand, we have no one of any note that is a Bard, and we have no known location where Bards supposedly hail from.
    Everywhere. The Answer is they're from everywhere.

    Blizzard thinks they're sly making an entire instrument animation but using an extremely old instrument model. That won't throw me off their spoony scent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZyntosAran View Post
    ETC has as much "Lore" as Chen had before MoP
    And we all know how Pandaren lore developed later. Following your analogy we could very well get a a gigantic bard themed continent.

  12. #31352
    They've been progressively adding in more painter NPCs in different zones since at least WoD.

    Must be foreshadowing the Crayon expansion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samin View Post
    The dragons/evoker connection is pretty weak at least in the sense of getting "playable versions of those heroes". It's really not the same fantasy at all. Imo Evokers are proof new classes don't need to be rooted in the old RTS heroes.
    Weak connection? Evokers have abilities from those hero characters, and are playable dragons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matijwow View Post
    They've been progressively adding in more painter NPCs in different zones since at least WoD.

    Must be foreshadowing the Crayon expansion.
    Technically A Bard can pursue any artform.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wangming View Post
    And we all know how Pandaren lore developed later. Following your analogy we could very well get a a gigantic bard themed continent.
    World of Warcraft: Bardstorm

  15. #31355
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Weak connection? Evokers have abilities from those hero characters, and are playable dragons.
    Dragonoids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wangming View Post
    And we all know how Pandaren lore developed later. Following your analogy we could very well get a a gigantic bard themed continent.
    Mists of Bardaria but the mist is just weed smoke hanging in the air of the venue

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZyntosAran View Post
    ETC has as much "Lore" as Chen had before MoP
    Chen helped found Orgrimmar alongside Rexxar, Gazlowe, and Thrall. Becoming the champion of the Horde. Vanilla questlines verified the story.

    What did ETC do of note?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PotHockets View Post
    Mists of Bardaria but the mist is just weed smoke hanging in the air of the venue
    I was already on board. No need to convince me more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    it's a profession, not a form of combat. A tinker builds the mech, he doesn't necessarily drive it. Some people just happen to do both.
    Nah, it's the Iron Man archetype; A genius inventor who builds and utilizes their weapons as an adventurer/hero. The archetype exists in several MMOs, including WoW. Only difference is the archetype exists in the lore, but not in the playable realm.

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    I can't tell who is worse Tinker goons or High Elf goons.

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