1. #37221
    Quote Originally Posted by Ebonn View Post
    Was about to say the same thing, it’s painful to read through at this point. So much arrogance for people who don’t know what they’re talking about. Honestly can’t wait for all the “if the expansion isn’t ___ or like ____ I’m quitting” to quit lol.
    I'm just gonna sit back and read now, no longer respond but I'm just going to wait on the Blizzcon reveal, at least I can enjoy that cuddled up on the couch, have fun y'all o/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foreign Exchange Ztudent View Post
    The difference is that at the time, no one actually knew how genius MoP was set up until after the expansion ended several years later.

    Like if you actually look at MoP at the time it was the current expansion, no thoughts/head empty until like the Garrosh bell incident with Jainas genocide even then it was not a widespread knowledge about how damn good MoP was.

    Again, MoP is only observed as the best made expansion from a narrative development and structure long, long after and somehow it feels too perfect for it to be not just coincidental.


    Obviously the fanbase who care about Narrative is now very much more awake and understand the deeper levels but to say that a large percentile of Narrative fans understood the genius of MoP is definitely revisionism.
    I dont claim to speak for anyone but myself, but I was one of the only MoP champions when it was current. I loved it grom start to finish. It aside from the content draught at the end, was a literal Masterpiece in my view. I got a lot of shit for liking it back in the day too.

  3. #37223
    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
    This is my issue. That is what appears to be missing here. You can pause the DF or BfA feature trailers at any frame and there is some new architecture, or new doodads, or new creature, or new and interesting trees visible. Here, even if we assume these are "bad" pictures taken from a much better trailer, we have four different scenes with seemingly little to nothing new.
    Another brilliant breakdown. You're absolutely right about this, there is more reused assets than new assets for us to takeaway from these screenshots up to the point where they feel very intentionally staged to represent this sort of zone overview.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milkmustache View Post
    This is the one I believe you're referring to from Trueshot Lodge, the Visage of Ohn'ahra.

    This is the Aerie Peak one.

    Very similar, the Trueshot Lodge one like you said obviously being updated in quality, but a lot smaller.
    The one from Legion would still be muh better quality, even scaled up to that size, so I imagine that one could have been used if you need something that looks like the Wildhammer one, but only from a distance.
    The world revamp dream will never die!

  6. #37226
    Quote Originally Posted by Northelim View Post
    blizzard already confirmed this is the last raid tier and you'll most likely get season 4/fated in 10.2.7
    Have they? I don't think so. We have clues about it but no official confirmation IIRC.

  7. #37227
    Quote Originally Posted by Chickat View Post
    Thunder King eas created and killed within 6 months of his coming into the game.

    Thunder King IMO is a top 10 Warcraft villain.
    Indeed. He was built up during 5.0 (and maybe a little in 5.1?). And then offed in 5.2. It was a low stakes villian. The greatest part about him at the time was that he just died in the past of old age, not because he was killed or anything.

  8. #37228
    Quote Originally Posted by Demonly View Post
    The "hopium" for 10.3 Is the tweets by the man himself.

    "The most news this year"

    Then streamers/youtubers constantly talking about how WoW will have more stuff than normal shown at blizzcon this year.
    I can see it now:

    "Introducing Patch 10.3: Storms of Avaloren

    Traverse through not one, not two, not three, but FOUR distinct zones as we explore the continent of Avaloren. Along your adventures you'll run into an expansions worth of new creatures and locations. We made an entire expansion announcement video to coincide with a patch that we took great measure to subtly communicate to you didn't exist, so that we could surprise you with an entire expansion before we announce the REAL expansion - World of Warcraft: Secrets of the Copium Den

    **Coming Fall of 2027 because we spent an entire expansion development cycle's budget on a patch**"

  9. #37229
    IMO it's not about 'reused' assets in the images - it's the lack of obviously new assets. Go back to any previous Features Overview trailer and try to find a shot that doesn't prominently feature new architecture/props front and center. You'll find maybe two.

    Also, whenever there's a creature model shown there's always multiple and usually they're interacting in some way. The dwarf and the snow leopard are just chilling there with no purpose.

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    Man, I wish my fake leak was real now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    They are going to announce that Blizzcon is canceled due to negative hype.
    They realize we dont like Avaloren. The leaked images. So they are cancelling blizzcon and we will have a 30 month content draught.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightshade711 View Post
    That reminds me of when everyone was trying to theorize that Iridikron made a bargain with the light
    I still do. If id was the writer and had existing conditions (Iridikron(Light) as an opposition to Neltharion(Void), Light and Void are the last unexplored themes, Iridikron name is ligh related, his visuals looks similar to Light ones) id surely make a twist with Iridikron working with the Light (he gets power and de-ordering of his bretheren, Light gets an open gates to Azeroth to clean all the filth).
    Still waiting for this to happen in 11.0.

  13. #37233
    Quote Originally Posted by Chickat View Post
    I dont claim to speak for anyone but myself, but I was one of the only MoP champions when it was current. I loved it grom start to finish. It aside from the content draught at the end, was a literal Masterpiece in my view. I got a lot of shit for liking it back in the day too.
    I'm with you there. Until Cataclysm, I had mained just one character since WoW launched, it wasn't until Cata's alt friendly leveling that my alts started popping up, and it wasnt until MoP that the specs felt like they "peaked". Literally all classes I've played felt the best, gameplay-wise, in Mists of Pandaria and it really encouraged me to play several characters as "mains"

    MoP was just fantastic from both storytelling point of view and gameplay. I mean, I don't remember disliking any spec back then. Probably the most fun I've had in WoW to date.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
    Sure. But let's use that as an example:



    Here is a press kit image.

    "Woah, that's just a reskinned Draenei!" Sure, I guess. We can put aside that this is a completely different order of modification from the supposed leak's stone dwarf or direhorn reskin, but sure. It's just a Draenei.

    So let's ignore that Draenei reskin altogether, and the reskinned grub. What do you have?

    -Brand new faerie mobs right there.
    -Brand new plant-pod doodads.
    -Brand new swirly trees
    -Brand new glow bushes
    -brand new frond plants

    This is my issue. That is what appears to be missing here. You can pause the DF or BfA feature trailers at any frame and there is some new architecture, or new doodads, or new creature, or new and interesting trees visible. Here, even if we assume these are "bad" pictures taken from a much better trailer, we have four different scenes with seemingly little to nothing new.
    Agreed. I feel the same
    The only justification would be that they really lowered their quality standards
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chickat View Post
    Thunder King eas created and killed within 6 months of his coming into the game.

    Thunder King IMO is a top 10 Warcraft villain.
    Thats why I'm glad Blizz has better stated plan of letting stories breathe beyond the confines of their expansion, makes stories flow and evolve better over time vs in and done in 3 patches before going to next new world threatening event

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
    Sure. But let's use that as an example:



    Here is a press kit image.

    "Woah, that's just a reskinned Draenei!" Sure, I guess. We can put aside that this is a completely different order of modification from the supposed leak's stone dwarf or direhorn reskin, but sure. It's just a Draenei.

    So let's ignore that Draenei reskin altogether, and the reskinned grub. What do you have?

    -Brand new faerie mobs right there.
    -Brand new plant-pod doodads.
    -Brand new swirly trees
    -Brand new glow bushes
    -brand new frond plants

    This is my issue. That is what appears to be missing here. You can pause the DF or BfA feature trailers at any frame and there is some new architecture, or new doodads, or new creature, or new and interesting trees visible. Here, even if we assume these are "bad" pictures taken from a much better trailer, we have four different scenes with seemingly little to nothing new.
    totally agree now that people point out the over used assets are a big red flag. I will say however if blizzard was to do a world revamp reusing assets would cut down on the work but that would mean the 3 pictures below the first are zone revamp which idk I believe that.

  17. #37237
    Quote Originally Posted by Chickat View Post
    I dont claim to speak for anyone but myself, but I was one of the only MoP champions when it was current. I loved it grom start to finish. It aside from the content draught at the end, was a literal Masterpiece in my view. I got a lot of shit for liking it back in the day too.
    There are dozens of us. MoP has been from the announcement till WoD launch my favorite expansion. Every aspect of it in every way I loved. It probably helped that I was already a huge fan of Chen because DotA though. But my biggest wish before then since launch was eventually getting to be a pandaren brewmaster and god it was a ride.

  18. #37238
    Quote Originally Posted by NjornHammer View Post
    Man, I wish my fake leak was real now
    Hey, now. Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. It's not fake as long as you believe it. There's still a chance.

  19. #37239
    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    The one from Legion would still be muh better quality, even scaled up to that size, so I imagine that one could have been used if you need something that looks like the Wildhammer one, but only from a distance.
    Doing a quick eyetest comparison, the Legion one has a taller head at more of a downward angle. If any, the leak uses the Aerie Peak one.

    Another thing that I noticed is the statue even further behind that, seemingly of a dwarf weilding an axe and a hammer, with the hammer raised to the sky. It's a strange statue to include; the dwarf creature in the foreground has these crystalized extensions to it's hands, something the statue is missing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rathwell View Post
    I'm with you there. Until Cataclysm, I had mained just one character since WoW launched, it wasn't until Cata's alt friendly leveling that my alts started popping up, and it wasnt until MoP that the specs felt like they "peaked". Literally all classes I've played felt the best, gameplay-wise, in Mists of Pandaria and it really encouraged me to play several characters as "mains"

    MoP was just fantastic from both storytelling point of view and gameplay. I mean, I don't remember disliking any spec back then. Probably the most fun I've had in WoW to date.
    MoP was also pretty alt friendly by the later patches with the legendary quest line catch up and heroic scenarios/timeless isle catching you up enough for SoO flex mode. Flex SoO pugs were so fun.

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