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    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    Don't think you being able to do it is a stretch thoughm you are after all acclaimed game developer Chris Metzen.
    You bring up a good point.

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    Am I entirely misunderstanding the Blizzcon schedule, or is there only 2 hours of World of Warcraft retail at Blizzcon in total? 21:30-22:30 CET on opening day with the "What's Next" panel, then the 1 hour deep dive the next day?

    Does this mean to say there aren't a bunch of separate panels like we've had at previous blizzcons?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rathwell View Post
    Am I entirely misunderstanding the Blizzcon schedule, or is there only 2 hours of World of Warcraft retail at Blizzcon in total? 21:30-22:30 CET on opening day with the "What's Next" panel, then the 1 hour deep dive the next day?

    Does this mean to say there aren't a bunch of separate panels like we've had at previous blizzcons?
    Pretty much. They redid the panel format and only seem to be focusing on future content/announcement panels vs. the behind the scenes stuff and things we used to have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlamin View Post
    Pretty much. They redid the panel format and only seem to be focusing on future content/announcement panels vs. the behind the scenes stuff and things we used to have.
    That sure is disappointing, the art and cinematic deep dives were always the best ones!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pacotaco View Post
    The shadows look different than current ones, but if you look at all other screenshots, all shadows look consistently like that.
    All other screenshots from the leak? Yeah, they all look like they were made in photoshop rather than being actual ingame shadows, that's my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rathwell View Post
    That sure is disappointing, the art and cinematic deep dives were always the best ones!
    E-sports have increasingly taken more and more space at Blizzcon

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    I'd rather have five more minutes of devs talking about a feature or whatever than ten hours of watching elite players do raids or dungeons, does nothing for me literally, couldn't give a shit if they paid me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krakerz View Post



    Look how different the character shadow is between the dwarf image and an ingame shot. The ingame shadow is fuzzier at the edges and is darker, while the dwarf shadow is literally just the sillhouette of the dwarf stretched on the floor and made transparent. And as I said, the shadow of the dwarf hand spike is behind him which makes no sense.|

    Also that snow leopard on the right man, it's so goofy looking, like it was pasted in
    When it comes to the difference in shadows…
    Isn’t that just a thing w/ the ray traced shadows? Maybe they turned them on for the trailer/showcase.
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    what exactly makes Dwarves an underground race?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rathwell View Post
    Am I entirely misunderstanding the Blizzcon schedule, or is there only 2 hours of World of Warcraft retail at Blizzcon in total? 21:30-22:30 CET on opening day with the "What's Next" panel, then the 1 hour deep dive the next day?

    Does this mean to say there aren't a bunch of separate panels like we've had at previous blizzcons?
    There's still a hour and a half break between the opening ceremony and the first What's Next hour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    E-sports have increasingly taken more and more space at Blizzcon
    I must really not be representative of their target demographic then! I don't think I know anyone particularly into E-sports, but clearly those communities exist and are being catered to, but it's sobering to realize how divorced your echo chamber can be from the greater community

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightshade711 View Post
    When it comes to the difference in shadows…
    Isn’t that just a thing w/ the ray traced shadows? Maybe they turned them on for the trailer/showcase.
    You would think, that if these leaks were real, that it would've been run on ultra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightshade711 View Post
    When it comes to the difference in shadows…
    Isn’t that just a thing w/ the ray traced shadows? Maybe they turned them on for the trailer/showcase.
    1. Nope, I tried with all available shadow settings and it looks roughly the same, they just change the quality of the shadow edge (except low which is just a blob under the character)
    2. Why would they use worse shadows for a showcase?

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    My fake/real ratio is now 90/10. Still not saying they are completely fake (damnit, you Dracthyr) but there's too much iffy stuff in them.

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    On the topic of shadows, here's a screenshot from the Warlords of Draenor announcement trailer:




    Certainly seems to use the same "sharp" shadow

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rathwell View Post
    I must really not be representative of their target demographic then! I don't think I know anyone particularly into E-sports, but clearly those communities exist and are being catered to, but it's sobering to realize how divorced your echo chamber can be from the greater community
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    E-sports have increasingly taken more and more space at Blizzcon
    I don't think 'more e-sports' are related at all, the e-sports stuff has always had their own stages/place in previous BlizzCons, there's technically less e-sports happening this time around as well, this change specifically is due to them switching to only 1 stage for all panels and dropping the smaller stages.

    2019 e.g. had SC2 World Championship, WoW Arena Championship/MDI, Hearthstone tournament, HotS tournament and the Overwatch World Cup AND the main stage/panel stages.

    2023 so far seems to be toned down a lot, only the arena stage for panels, WoW only has the guild clash event, Hearthstone/HotS/SC2 have nothing with only Overwatch still having the regular World Cup (albeit in its own hall).

    They're also occupying less space of the convention center compared to previous years, 2019 had Hall E, Level 2 as well and they moved registration from outside to inside this year, so there's just far less space for the event as well.

    I don't know why they did this and it's probably part of their "reimagining BlizzCon" thing, but I'm not a fan.
    Last edited by Marlamin; 2023-10-28 at 12:19 PM.

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    Good morning! How’s everyone today? Have we accepted defeat, yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rathwell View Post
    On the topic of shadows, here's a screenshot from the Warlords of Draenor announcement trailer:




    Certainly seems to use the same "sharp" shadow
    Yeah. As much as I dislike the 4 screenshots, maybe compairing cinematic with cinematic is more logical than cinematic with ingame shot.

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    I mean, WoD is almost 10 years old now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rathwell View Post
    On the topic of shadows, here's a screenshot from the Warlords of Draenor announcement trailer:




    Certainly seems to use the same "sharp" shadow
    It's much darker than the dwarf shadow, and it looks like an actual shadow with a slightly different shape to account for a different angle of the light source compared to the camera rather than being the exact same shape as the character, just stretched out. Look at the area where the cloak meets the body and the outstretched arm, and then compare that to the dwarf's crotch/ice claws

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlamin View Post
    I don't know why they did this and it's probably part of their "reimagining BlizzCon" thing, but I'm not a fan.
    Especially given that they are asking far more so people can attend. People who paid to go to Blizzcon did not really know how condensed the panels were going to be compared to previous cons.

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