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    I just LOVE time travel shenanigans. So, it would be cool to have a mega-dungeon surrounded by it. However, IF that also means that we don't get additional story for the bronze/infinite dragons, then I would be against it. Alternatively, like you mentioned, they could incorporate bronze stuff into both the mega-dungeon and the story (a future patch), so who knows. Blizzard has been flipping the table a lot this expansion for setting new precedents and standards, so anything is possible. Regardless, the new story stuff tomorrow, AND now the "next in development" stuff this Thursday has me SOOOO Hype!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catastrophy349 View Post
    I want 10.1.5's mega-dungeon to be a "timeywiney" dungeon SO BAD. Imagine what that would look like!
    I feel it will be. Them mentioning dealing with Bronze Dragonflight, Morchie, etc. in a recent interview likely would only be mentioned if it was going to be revealed soon, not something saved for 10.2 as some mentioned. I feel 10.2 will be Green Dragonflight-related.

    I know some will be disappointed, but I think Fyrakk will be dealt with at the end of the campaign and NOT be a raid/dungeon boss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catastrophy349 View Post
    I just LOVE time travel shenanigans. So, it would be cool to have a mega-dungeon surrounded by it. However, IF that also means that we don't get additional story for the bronze/infinite dragons, then I would be against it. Alternatively, like you mentioned, they could incorporate bronze stuff into both the mega-dungeon and the story (a future patch), so who knows. Blizzard has been flipping the table a lot this expansion for setting new precedents and standards, so anything is possible. Regardless, the new story stuff tomorrow, AND now the "next in development" stuff this Thursday has me SOOOO Hype!
    I want the time travel stuff to not be shenanigans. The original Caverns of Time stuff was played straight. Chromie stuff should not come to the fore.

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    Sounds like WoD...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Sounds like WoD...
    Technically not time travel. That was an alternate timeline. There’s a difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berkilak View Post
    Technically not time travel. That was an alternate timeline. There’s a difference.
    I thought the alternate Iron Horde linked themselves from the 35 years in the past to then current Azeroth thus time-traveling into the future from their perspective.

  7. #5207
    Quote Originally Posted by Utsuko View Post
    I can't wait !! Tomorrow the Aberrus Raid releases the ending cutscene with it, and the next day we'll have some info on what's to come next.

    It's just crazy how well they keep a certain rhythm of content and communication! They keep the hype going much to my delight.


    Something tells me we will find out that big old N'zoth is still alive

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    Bring me 5th old god reveal

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChairmanKaga View Post
    I thought the alternate Iron Horde linked themselves from the 35 years in the past to then current Azeroth thus time-traveling into the future from their perspective.
    Really, before the ONE LEGION crap, the WoD way to travel to a different timeline was an OK attempt since it didn't have significant logical problems (it had crazy narrative problems like e.g. that none of it mattered after we ruined the Dark Portal on the first 15 minutes of the expac so everything that happened after did not affect our world). If it had just stayed an alternate universe it would have worked just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nize View Post
    I feel it will be. Them mentioning dealing with Bronze Dragonflight, Morchie, etc. in a recent interview likely would only be mentioned if it was going to be revealed soon, not something saved for 10.2 as some mentioned. I feel 10.2 will be Green Dragonflight-related.

    I know some will be disappointed, but I think Fyrakk will be dealt with at the end of the campaign and NOT be a raid/dungeon boss.
    I also think Fyrakk will be dealt with outside raid/dungeons. And maybe the Aspects should start fighting together. In the leveling story, Alex and Kalecgos both fought Raszageth solo and had a decent showing. If the two of them plus Nozdormu had fought together before she run to the Vault, they'd have beat her ass. Instead they just come out as wimps.
    Plus the difference in power between Fyrakk and the black flight trio seems crazy so I don't see them overpowering him in a cutscene.
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    Bring us home, to Azeroth proper. Booty Bay should be the next hub in the upcoming pirate expansion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Really, before the ONE LEGION crap, the WoD way to travel to a different timeline was an OK attempt since it didn't have significant logical problems. If it had just stayed an alternate universe it would have worked just fine.
    Oh yes, the one Legion solution to WoD. It is up there in terms of terrible answer with Danuser's explication of what happened to multiple Gul'dans in the Shadowlands when they die.

    I wonder if someday they will have the balls to fix all lore disasters. DF could be a chance to do that if they were to mess with the Bronzes and the timelines. Unlikely, though, as they are foreshadowing so much stuff for the future of the game.

    Anyway, I am excited for today's cinematic and for what they will announce on Thursday. I really hope that the Archeology revamp is coming in 10.1.5 and that they tie it to old content.
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  12. #5212
    Quote Originally Posted by Kurrelurre View Post
    Bring us home, to Azeroth proper. Booty Bay should be the next hub in the upcoming pirate expansion.
    Imagine this: Tanaris is visually upgraded, Gadzetan is the expansion capital. Kezan (with two aboveground and 1 underground zone) and Tel'Abim are added and they are close enough for dragonriding flight to get you there. Then also use Cavern of Times which is right next to the expansion capital for content.

  13. #5213
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Imagine this: Tanaris is visually upgraded, Gadzetan is the expansion capital. Kezan (with two aboveground and 1 underground zone) and Tel'Abim are added and they are close enough for dragonriding flight to get you there. Then also use Cavern of Times which is right next to the expansion capital for content.
    Definitively they should revamp CoT. It has so much potential and they have done so little with It. But I think that they are done with revamping old zones and putting a Bronze representative to change timelines. Its a messy system.

    If they revamp Kalimdor I can see Tanaris, Uldum and Ahh'quiraj as one zone, which could be amazing. If they are not making a revamp, maybe they might do something with the Bronzes part of the map in Thaldraszus, although right now I am betting on that weird building where we go to the Primalist Future to be the 10.1.5 dungeon.
    Last edited by Darkarath; 2023-05-09 at 07:14 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkarath View Post
    Definitively they should revamp CoT. It has so much potential and they have done so little with It. But I think that they are done with revamping old zones and putting a Bronze representative to change timelines. Its a messy system.

    If they revamp Kalimdor I can see Tanaris, Uldum and Ahh'quiraj as one zone, which could be amazing. If they are not making a revamp, maybe they might do something with the Bronzes part of the map in Thaldraszus, although right now I am betting on that weird building where we go to the Primalist Future to be the 10.1.5 dungeon.
    HOnestly just drop the Bronze Representative bullshit and just make it a spell on our spellbook. 10 second casting time, can only be cast out of combat in specific areas, do a sands of time blur effect as you move to the different timeline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    HOnestly just drop the Bronze Representative bullshit and just make it a spell on our spellbook. 10 second casting time, can only be cast out of combat in specific areas, do a sands of time blur effect as you move to the different timeline.
    I feel that that would be pretty messy too, especially for new players. Old world is beyond saving at this point. It would require too much work to fix phasing issues and different quest givers if another revamp happens.

    Make a new continent and call it Azeroth year XX and be done with it.
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  16. #5216
    Quote Originally Posted by Darkarath View Post
    .... It has so much potential and they have done so little with It. .....
    Unfortunately, this describes a lot of what they do. They do this with systems too - come up with a system, once they finally get it working as intended they abandon it.

  17. #5217
    Quote Originally Posted by Darkarath View Post
    Make a new continent and call it Azeroth year XX and be done with it.
    Azeroth Beyond?

    A new continent, as in new instance definitely makes sense, and there are ways to make it "seamless" - Bronze NPCs to take you between versions, only this time it's rather a teleport. Both trigger a loading screen anyway.

    If like in the example above only the far south of Kalimdor is remade (at first) then even the transition into the northern, older neighbors could be made seamless, loading in Thousand Needles and Feralas as you approach. Alternatively, show basic geometry for the neighbors, but there's effectively a portal as you cross the zone boundaries, triggering another loading screen.
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    Btw while I know people disliked WoD to a varying degree, if timey whimey craps leads us to some part of AU Azeroth I would not mind it at all. WoD had fantastic world building. I would e.g. love to see a Seven Kingdoms AU so we could see those cultures (plus Amani and QUel'thalas)
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    What can be tied to the white color in Dragonflight ?

    Winding Slitherdrake and white scales have been datamined back in the days, now that the Slitherdrake is available, white scales are still missing.

    Any guesses ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Btw while I know people disliked WoD to a varying degree, if timey whimey craps leads us to some part of AU Azeroth I would not mind it at all. WoD had fantastic world building. I would e.g. love to see a Seven Kingdoms AU so we could see those cultures (plus Amani and QUel'thalas)
    I would love to return to WoD's Draenor. Best continent and best questing experience to date in WoW IMO. But it is highly unlikely, they have opened many future plots but none of them lead us to Draenor, except for Yrel's Light Army invasion, which will happen at some point. At best that would give us a patch in WoD's Draenor, similar to Argus.

    What can be tied to the white color in Dragonflight ?

    Winding Slitherdrake and white scales have been datamined back in the days, now that the Slitherdrake is available, white scales are still missing.

    Any guesses ?
    I made a post related to this topic that I plan to revive as soon as Tyr's questline is expanded:

    https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...y-Tyr-SPOILERS

    Basically, I think that Tyr infused proto-dragons with all the cosmic forces of the universe. White dragons could be Light infused Proto-Dragons.
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