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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    Lightforged Warlock is the only weird one though. Old School Eredar/Highborne Warlocks, Feltotem, Grimtotem and Zandalari Demonaics should have been playable for a long time now.
    Mag'har orcs being warlocks should jsut be literally impossible using Fel would turn them green.
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    Also let's not forget, we'll probably get datamining tonight? I'm sure additional secrets will be revealed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    This will be a balancing nightmare, a nightmare for raid leaders and if chaining PI forced logs and ranking to reconsider how they work, an Augmenter would practically be required in your group. I just don't think it is a good idea.

    It's the loggers job to make it work, not blizzard to cater to dumb people and their third party parses.

    These comments are why they don't make things like these in the first place, aren't you tired of 17 years of the same holy trinity concept?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron Lightsong View Post
    Mega Mythic Dungeon. Ok, cool and apparently....Iridakron?
    Probably similar way Guldan was our enemy in Hellfire Citadel. Would be strange to deal with him before ice dragon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron Lightsong View Post
    I'd like actual lore/world building ideas to support the new race/class options, cause just doing it "cause freedom" isn't enough for me. I knew the third Evoker spec was coming though. Also that Galakrond skull tho.
    Only in extreme cases, I think.

    Remember the player who's a Draenei Warlock or whatever could be the entire Draenei Warlock player in the lore. If this was WoD, it sure would be. So it's not like their entire society suddenly embraces fel magic.

    So if we're just dealing with one character, I could think of a dozen ways in which that particular character isn't held back by whatever restrictions might affect the race overall. It's "the champion", after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    DAMN
    Good name for this area would be "Galakrond's Fall".

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    Your character isn't hardwired to not be a certain class outside of certain extreme examples like Lightforged and Void Elves. They can absolutely do something that the rest of their society scorns them for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
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    DAMN
    Now that's a big boy.

    I wonder how his encounter will work.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Worldshaper View Post
    Only in extreme cases, I think.

    Remember the player who's a Draenei Warlock or whatever could be the entire Draenei Warlock player in the lore. If this was WoD, it sure would be. So it's not like their entire society suddenly embraces fel magic.

    So if we're just dealing with one character, I could think of a dozen ways in which that particular character isn't held back by whatever restrictions might affect the race overall. It's "the champion", after all.

    Even so, there should be extra little details gameplay wise to justify this new addition. IMO even the most hardcore lore people could swallow it if such details were added.


    It's the loggers job to make it work, not blizzard to cater to dumb people and their third party parses.
    I agree...but I don't think there's anything wrong with the trinity.
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    Emerald Dream (Rift of Aln Theory) and Rafaam ressurection plotline coming together nicely now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    Your character isn't hardwired to not be a certain class outside of certain extreme examples like Lightforged and Void Elves. They can absolutely do something that the rest of their society scorns them for.
    We all know there will be no reflection of that though. You will be treated exactly the same as everyone else.

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    Can't wait to play as a mag'har warlock, using fel magic while somehow not turning green.

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    So looks like typical stuff like BfA timewalking/brawler's guild will be moved for 10.1.7 (likely with another turbulant timeways event), 10.1.5 sounds huge already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dracullus View Post
    So looks like typical stuff like BfA timewalking/brawler's guild will be moved for 10.1.7 (likely with another turbulant timeways event), 10.1.5 sounds huge already.
    Yup, and heritage armor. Makes sense all things considered as they may play into the Dream patch.

  15. #5435
    I am so happy that there's a new spec, and it's an actual support one. The abilities and design philosophy so far seems great.

    To all the naysayers, as promised:

    Told you so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gurkan View Post
    Can't wait to play as a mag'har warlock, using fel magic while somehow not turning green.
    Mabye the green was the demon friends we made along the way!
    All I ever wanted was the truth. Remember those words as you read the ones that follow. I never set out to topple my father's kingdom of lies from a sense of misplaced pride. I never wanted to bleed the species to its marrow, reaving half the galaxy clean of human life in this bitter crusade. I never desired any of this, though I know the reasons for which it must be done. But all I ever wanted was the truth.

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    What does "returning player improvements" mean? Noticed that at the bottom.

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    So I guess the Iridikiron we fight is gonna be PAST Iridikiron, unless he somehow allied with the infinite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gurkan View Post
    So I guess the Iridikiron we fight is gonna be PAST Iridikiron, unless he somehow allied with the infinite.
    Doubtful, I think he's going into the past to do something with Galakrond. I can see the Infinite letting it happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    What does "returning player improvements" mean? Noticed that at the bottom.
    We probably will immediately know once we get some builds in.
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