1. #68101
    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    Prepatch for 4 months is bat-shit insane.
    Yeah, but this was back before the alpha was revealed & now we know how much is actually in the pre-patch in relation to speculation. If I had to revise it:

    04/17: TWW Alpha
    04/23: Dragonflight Season 4
    05/07: Dark Heart 10.2.7

    06/04: TWW Beta
    06/25: TWW Pre-Patch 11.0

    8/06: The War Within Release.
    11/12: 20th Anniversary Event 11.0.5

    Though that still means a much longer patch cadence post TWW based on the 2024 roadmap. Apparently season 1 is going to be at least 5 and a half months? Either they're dropping season 4s all together or you 18 month-long expansion theorists are wrong (I think 20 months is the very shortest they will ever go for an expansion)
    Quote Originally Posted by Reive View Post
    apparently mop remix should start on may 16th and end on september 7th
    Though you might say this is supposed to be the duration of 10.2.7 to 11.0 which would also be as insane as my initial estimate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    Yeah, but this was back before the alpha was revealed & now we know how much is actually in the pre-patch in relation to speculation. If I had to revise it:

    04/17: TWW Alpha
    04/23: Dragonflight Season 4
    05/07: Dark Heart 10.2.7

    06/04: TWW Beta
    06/25: TWW Pre-Patch 11.0

    8/06: The War Within Release.
    11/12: 20th Anniversary Event 11.0.5

    Though that still means a much longer patch cadence post TWW based on the 2024 roadmap. Apparently season 1 is going to be at least 5 and a half months? Either they're dropping season 4s all together or you 18 month-long expansion theorists are wrong (I think 20 months is the very shortest they will ever go for an expansion)
    Why not make all big first 3 seasons 4 months long with fated in the last two-three months of an expansion? Of course this would only work with slightly easier raid tiers so that guilds can actually clear them.

  3. #68103
    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Atia View Post
    Why not make all big first 3 seasons 4 months long with fated in the last two-three months of an expansion? Of course this would only work with slightly easier raid tiers so that guilds can actually clear them.
    Because the PvP people would throw a fit if seasons were that short. It would make sense to lower the prereq for elite gear but if you lowered them much from where they are now, everyone would get them that season. Thus no longer making them elitist.
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  4. #68104
    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    Yeah, but this was back before the alpha was revealed & now we know how much is actually in the pre-patch in relation to speculation. If I had to revise it:

    04/17: TWW Alpha
    04/23: Dragonflight Season 4
    05/07: Dark Heart 10.2.7

    06/04: TWW Beta
    06/25: TWW Pre-Patch 11.0

    8/06: The War Within Release.
    11/12: 20th Anniversary Event 11.0.5

    Though that still means a much longer patch cadence post TWW based on the 2024 roadmap. Apparently season 1 is going to be at least 5 and a half months? Either they're dropping season 4s all together or you 18 month-long expansion theorists are wrong (I think 20 months is the very shortest they will ever go for an expansion).
    Though you might say this is supposed to be the duration of 10.2.7 to 11.0 which would also be as insane as my initial estimate.
    ??? How is Season 1 going to be 5 and a half months? People really need to take the roadmap with no specific dates as gospel lmao

    Even so, Season 2 coming out in December/January is completely fine and well within normal length.

  5. #68105
    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    ??? How is Season 1 going to be 5 and a half months? People really need to take the roadmap with no specific dates as gospel lmao
    Yeah but if 11.1 isn't on the roadmap, it's absolutely not coming out in 2024. You're either getting a long af period of nothing to do but timerunning, or a long af period to do nothing but the pre-patch event, or a long af TWW season 1. Which would you prefer?

  6. #68106
    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    Yeah but if 11.1 isn't on the roadmap, it's absolutely not coming out in 2024. You're either getting a long af period of nothing to do but timerunning, of a long af period to do nothing but the pre-patch event, or a long af TWW season 1.
    I mean, Winter starts in late December.

    Even if we are going by your estimations (which are very generous), and the game comes out on the 6th of August, Season 1 doesn't start until the 20th.

    Let's say S2 comes out on the 7th of January, that's 20 weeks, which is completely within normal season times, if not even a bit short. I don't see the problem? S1 DF was 20 weeks. Typical seasons are around 24 weeks anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    Because the PvP people would throw a fit if seasons were that short. It would make sense to lower the prereq for elite gear but if you lowered them much from where they are now, everyone would get them that season. Thus no longer making them elitist.
    Why? Just make seasons more inflated lol. Also, they already said that battleground blitz will be the new "prime" rated pvp anyways, and right now we don't even know how easy you can climb there but I can't imagine it's too hard if you look at solo shuffle.


    Also lmao, elite sets are no longer "elitist" anymore my friend.
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  8. #68108
    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Atia View Post
    Why? Just make seasons more inflated lol. Also, they already said that battleground blitz will be the new "prime" rated pvp anyways, and right now we don't even know how easy you can climb there but I can't imagine it's too hard if you look at solo shuffle.


    Also lmao, elite sets are no longer "elitist" anymore my friend.
    I mean, they already are inflating Rating anyway based on how many people are a specific rating, they clearly don't care about inflating it.

  9. #68109
    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    Yeah, but this was back before the alpha was revealed & now we know how much is actually in the pre-patch in relation to speculation. If I had to revise it:

    04/17: TWW Alpha
    04/23: Dragonflight Season 4
    05/07: Dark Heart 10.2.7

    06/04: TWW Beta
    06/25: TWW Pre-Patch 11.0

    8/06: The War Within Release.
    11/12: 20th Anniversary Event 11.0.5

    Though that still means a much longer patch cadence post TWW based on the 2024 roadmap. Apparently season 1 is going to be at least 5 and a half months? Either they're dropping season 4s all together or you 18 month-long expansion theorists are wrong (I think 20 months is the very shortest they will ever go for an expansion)
    Though you might say this is supposed to be the duration of 10.2.7 to 11.0 which would also be as insane as my initial estimate.
    they're never going to release the expansion at the start of august. the first 2 weeks of that month are usually holiday time for the devs (and people in general). early september is the best estimate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    I mean, they already are inflating Rating anyway based on how many people are a specific rating, they clearly don't care about inflating it.
    Tbf, this season people complained a lot that it wasn't inflated enough :P


    At the end of the day, pvp will florish if MORE people can get the shiny stuff, not less.

  11. #68111
    Quote Originally Posted by ImTheMizAwesome View Post
    I read some comments that most hero talents visuals, animations, sounds are not in yet, because it's the biggest thing so far, that players and content creators have problem with.

    Hopefully it's true and every hero spec will actually feel different when it comes to visual side.
    It's even in the alpha patchnotes that animations are still to come or are unfinished. There are also some interviews that hype the animations or say that visuals play a huge part in hero talents. So im somewhat optimistic.
    Remains to be seen if thats true though and how good they really are.

  12. #68112
    PVP is so dead that they are killing RBGs outside of Blitz. They do not care.

    If anything they will focus on Plunderstorm/whatever it will be called moving forward and maybe add a battle pass to blitz/shuffle.

  13. #68113
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    PVP is so dead that they are killing RBGs outside of Blitz. They do not care.

    If anything they will focus on Plunderstorm/whatever it will be called moving forward and maybe add a battle pass to blitz/shuffle.
    Blitz just makes more sense than RBGs. People kept asking for Solo Queue for RBGs, here we have it.

  14. #68114
    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    Blitz just makes more sense than RBGs. People kept asking for Solo Queue for RBGs, here we have it.
    I am really curious how many wins you'll need for vicious through blitz. Because SS took forever.

  15. #68115
    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    I mean, Winter starts in late December.

    Even if we are going by your estimations (which are very generous), and the game comes out on the 6th of August, Season 1 doesn't start until the 20th.

    Let's say S2 comes out on the 7th of January, that's 20 weeks, which is completely within normal season times, if not even a bit short. I don't see the problem? S1 DF was 20 weeks. Typical seasons are around 24 weeks anyway
    That does make sense, considering they're going back to doing the 2 week launch pause on the season starting.

  16. #68116
    they said in a recent interview (about tww) that they to make seasons last 5 months. if the expansion comes out at the start of september, 11.1 should be out by the end of february

  17. #68117
    Quote Originally Posted by Reive View Post
    they're never going to release the expansion at the start of august. the first 2 weeks of that month are usually holiday time for the devs (and people in general). early september is the best estimate
    I'm thinking September is more likely too. Though that's a pretty long time for to just do season 4, timerunning & the pre-patch event, when only one of those things is actually new content. And don't count anything out considering BFA was released early August & they released 10.2 right before blizzcon.

    But that would mean the anniversary event is coming out less than 6 weeks after launch considering it can't come out after the actual anniversary: That's unusually short for a patch.

  18. #68118
    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    Wonder if it's an actual one, or something using it's model (could be WIP replacement). Kinda random to put a Genesaur there.

    Related to this, there is that magnaron-like model that's been datamined. Only major differences it has with the Draenor magnaron is that it has two eyes (and some sort of head growth/carapace/rock) and tusks of some sort.


  19. #68119
    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    I'm thinking September is more likely too. Though that's a pretty long time for to just do season 4, timerunning & the pre-patch event, when only one of those things is actually new content. And don't count anything out considering BFA was released early August & they released 10.2 right before blizzcon.

    But that would mean the anniversary event is coming out less than 6 weeks after launch considering it can't come out after the actual anniversary: That's unusually short for a patch.
    imo, it's going to be like this:

    10.2.7 in may
    prepatch at the end of end of july/start of august (like they did with legion)
    expansion at the start of september

    mop remix is going to make the content drought feel less heavy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiivar86 View Post
    Related to this, there is that magnaron-like model that's been datamined. Only major differences it has with the Draenor magnaron is that it has two eyes (and some sort of head growth/carapace/rock) and tusks of some sort.

    Could very well be a native underground being.
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