1. #76001
    Quote Originally Posted by micwini View Post
    Speaking about factions: Apparently it is the horde that set Xal'atath free.
    Their hubris knows no bounds!!
    Technically the canon version is neither faction version: Instead it is the victim herself, the high elf cultist Inanis who gives Xal'atath permission to inhabit her body.

  2. #76002
    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    Technically the canon version is neither faction version: Instead it is the victim herself, the high elf cultist Inanis who gives Xal'atath permission to inhabit her body.
    Idk, new book states otherwise.

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    So it seems that "First Ones" are just a made up legend by the inhabitants of Shadowlands.


    Though this tome previously set forth the creation of the physical universe, the Pantheon of Death believed differently. A myth had taken root in the Shadowlands, centered around a group of mysterious and enigmatic beings known as the First Ones. Their number varies according to perspective, but the Eternal Ones believed there to be six: Light, Shadow, Order, Disorder, Life and Death. Some believed in a seventh power, but its nature was unclear. These First Ones existed in a constant conflict with one another, until opposition became balance, and battle became creation. A design was formed, a pattern was drawn, and each gave something of itself to his manifestation. These interactions birthed children of their kind, who existed similarly in both harmony and discord. Within this mythos, the denizens of the Shadowlands believed every sentient creature in the universe sprang from the original patterns fashioned by these First Ones. The beliefs hold that these beings created the titan Pantheon, the Old Gods, the naaru. They supposedly formed the realms of the living and also the dead - the Shadowlands - and its pantheon, the Eternal Ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by micwini View Post
    Idk, new book states otherwise.

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    So it seems that "First Ones" are just a made up legend by the inhabitants of Shadowlands.


    Though this tome previously set forth the creation of the physical universe, the Pantheon of Death believed differently. A myth had taken root in the Shadowlands, centered around a group of mysterious and enigmatic beings known as the First Ones. Their number varies according to perspective, but the Eternal Ones believed there to be six: Light, Shadow, Order, Disorder, Life and Death. Some believed in a seventh power, but its nature was unclear. These First Ones existed in a constant conflict with one another, until opposition became balance, and battle became creation. A design was formed, a pattern was drawn, and each gave something of itself to his manifestation. These interactions birthed children of their kind, who existed similarly in both harmony and discord. Within this mythos, the denizens of the Shadowlands believed every sentient creature in the universe sprang from the original patterns fashioned by these First Ones. The beliefs hold that these beings created the titan Pantheon, the Old Gods, the naaru. They supposedly formed the realms of the living and also the dead - the Shadowlands - and its pantheon, the Eternal Ones.
    Well ... someone made the Zereths and those relics, and Odyn knows about them too.

  4. #76004
    Quote Originally Posted by Merryck View Post
    Well ... someone made the Zereths and those relics, and Odyn knows about them too.
    I guess we'll have to wait for chronicle 5!!
    I like most additions from this latest addition. Some good bangers there like finally confirming that sunreavers were actively complicit in stealing the bell.
    The only big L in this one, is the handling of the BFA timeline. Makes 0 sense no matter how hard you try to wrap your head around it.
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    Good evening you all, Qucik Question, is the music Finally in the beta or not?

  6. #76006
    Quote Originally Posted by Eldryth View Post
    Not sure if anyone already mentioned this, but according to Wowhead's summary, the new Chronicles already confirmed that Worldsouls are not necessarily Titan souls, and that becoming a Titan is just one potential outcome for them.

    I know that's probably the most predictable reveal imaginable, but at least they're not saving it to be the big twist in TLT. I expect it'll probably end with Azeroth becoming something entirely new instead.
    My previous theory was that Worldsouls don't have an alignment to any force until one or more forces influence them. If the most significant source of influence is order then the worldsoul becomes a Titan.

    I speculated that Azeroth received the influence of all the forces and she would become a First One. However, the chronicle also states Shadowlands people also speak of a first one for each force.

  7. #76007
    Quote Originally Posted by KainneAbsolute View Post
    My previous theory was that Worldsouls don't have an alignment to any force until one or more forces influence them. If the most significant source of influence is order then the worldsoul becomes a Titan.

    I speculated that Azeroth received the influence of all the forces and she would become a First One. However, the chronicle also states Shadowlands people also speak of a first one for each force.
    They also speak of a potential seventh with a unclear nature. Perhaps this is azeroth world soul. A first one, that is not something, yet. But it will be everything. This goes back to the Firim notes of the seventh being the "other" to the 6 forces. Basically, where the 6 first ones represent each cosmic force separately, Azeroth would represent them combined.
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    If we somehow do get a void Hunter class, I’ll be the first one to post in this thread to admit my error.
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    I mean, trying to worm out of the way it's the WORLDSOUL saga... yah. It's Azeroth reaching out, not some light fairy.

  8. #76008
    Quote Originally Posted by micwini View Post
    Speaking about factions: Apparently it is the horde that set Xal'atath free.
    Their hubris knows no bounds!!
    I suppose it wouldn't make sense if it wasn't the Horde who did it. The empty dagger had to end up with Sylvanas somehow after all.
    The world revamp dream will never die!

  9. #76009
    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    I suppose it wouldn't make sense if it wasn't the Horde who did it. The empty dagger had to end up with Sylvanas somehow after all.
    That is actually a quite solid point. How did Nathanos gained the dagger again?
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    If we somehow do get a void Hunter class, I’ll be the first one to post in this thread to admit my error.
    Quote Originally Posted by THEORACLE64 View Post
    I mean, trying to worm out of the way it's the WORLDSOUL saga... yah. It's Azeroth reaching out, not some light fairy.

  10. #76010
    Quote Originally Posted by Enrif View Post
    That is actually a quite solid point. How did Nathanos gained the dagger again?
    I believe the Horde player gave the dagger to Sylvanas, so probably from her.
    The world revamp dream will never die!

  11. #76011
    Quote Originally Posted by Enrif View Post
    That is actually a quite solid point. How did Nathanos gained the dagger again?
    Horde Players take it from the crucible of the Storms to Sylvanas. But that has nothing to do with Xal'atath taking a humanoid form, that happens way before.

  12. #76012
    Quote Originally Posted by Enrif View Post
    They also speak of a potential seventh with a unclear nature. Perhaps this is azeroth world soul. A first one, that is not something, yet. But it will be everything. This goes back to the Firim notes of the seventh being the "other" to the 6 forces. Basically, where the 6 first ones represent each cosmic force separately, Azeroth would represent them combined.
    The whole thing may well just be a setup by the First Ones to get every force to "instill" itself into Azeroth.

  13. #76013
    Please guys, just stop.
    The last thing we need is more numero uno's in wow lore.
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  14. #76014
    Quote Originally Posted by micwini View Post
    Idk, new book states otherwise.

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    So it seems that "First Ones" are just a made up legend by the inhabitants of Shadowlands.


    Though this tome previously set forth the creation of the physical universe, the Pantheon of Death believed differently. A myth had taken root in the Shadowlands, centered around a group of mysterious and enigmatic beings known as the First Ones. Their number varies according to perspective, but the Eternal Ones believed there to be six: Light, Shadow, Order, Disorder, Life and Death. Some believed in a seventh power, but its nature was unclear. These First Ones existed in a constant conflict with one another, until opposition became balance, and battle became creation. A design was formed, a pattern was drawn, and each gave something of itself to his manifestation. These interactions birthed children of their kind, who existed similarly in both harmony and discord. Within this mythos, the denizens of the Shadowlands believed every sentient creature in the universe sprang from the original patterns fashioned by these First Ones. The beliefs hold that these beings created the titan Pantheon, the Old Gods, the naaru. They supposedly formed the realms of the living and also the dead - the Shadowlands - and its pantheon, the Eternal Ones.
    That's because the person that wrote Chronicle has their own mythos and beliefs. Also, Odyn made it specifically clear that mortals can't know anything about the Progenitors (or at least not in any "true" sense, so documentations such as this are stuck with using "maybes" and "supposeds" to discuss them).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enrif View Post
    They also speak of a potential seventh with a unclear nature. Perhaps this is azeroth world soul. A first one, that is not something, yet. But it will be everything. This goes back to the Firim notes of the seventh being the "other" to the 6 forces. Basically, where the 6 first ones represent each cosmic force separately, Azeroth would represent them combined.
    Except they don't represent each force separately. They took a piece of themselves and put those pieces into their design, hence creating the cosmic influences we see today. These influences are just named after the Progenitors.

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    Azeroth being the supposed amalgamation of the 6 Forces further goes into my theory that she's the Progenitors' golden child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by micwini View Post
    I guess we'll have to wait for chronicle 5!!
    I like most additions from this latest addition. Some good bangers there like finally confirming that sunreavers were actively complicit in stealing the bell.
    The only big L in this one, is the handling of the BFA timeline. Makes 0 sense no matter how hard you try to wrap your head around it.
    Or you can read the edicts of the prime designate
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