1. #7901
    Any other thoughts on what 10.3 will be?

    I’m pretty dead set on it being Red flight focused, going against Tyr and Odyn, with a heavy titan focused raid in the depths of Uldorus. Possibly even bringing Vyranoth and the primal proto drakes over in the fold to help Alex against the titan constructs.

    I’m open to hearing others theories about what they’ll think it’ll be though if they think otherwise.

    Still predicting Uldorus as the final raid with the following as bosses:

    - Odyn
    - Tyr
    - Ironaya & Archaedas duo fight
    - Chromatus
    - A new race showing off the heretics that live on Avaloren
    - An Aspect council fight similar to the Eternal Ones council fight from Sepulcher in SL. Not the actual Aspects though, maybe titan construct versions of them in their visage forms.
    - Some sort of giant Arcane/Order elemental.
    - Some Stormforged Vrykul general.

    Amongst others of course. Possibly a C’Thraxxi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Santandame View Post
    Any other thoughts on what 10.3 will be?

    I’m pretty dead set on it being Red flight focused, going against Tyr and Odyn, with a heavy titan focused raid in the depths of Uldorus. Possibly even bringing Vyranoth and the primal proto drakes over in the fold to help Alex against the titan constructs.

    I’m open to hearing others theories about what they’ll think it’ll be though if they think otherwise.

    Still predicting Uldorus as the final raid with the following as bosses:

    - Odyn
    - Tyr
    - Ironaya & Archaedas duo fight
    - Chromatus
    - A new race showing off the heretics that live on Avaloren
    - An Aspect council fight similar to the Eternal Ones council fight from Sepulcher in SL. Not the actual Aspects though, maybe titan construct versions of them in their visage forms.
    - Some sort of giant Arcane/Order elemental.
    - Some Stormforged Vrykul general.

    Amongst others of course. Possibly a C’Thraxxi.
    I think that they will keep the Watchers for another expansion. Plenty of Dragons to kill in this one yet.

    I also highly doubt that Vyranoth would betray her kin, especially after Raszageth's death. She probably hates the Aspects more than ever before.
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  3. #7903
    Quote Originally Posted by username993720 View Post
    What's that about? Videogames are an escape from reality. You should be able to be, do and see things impossible or taboo in real life. That's the whole point. Fulfilling a fantasy. I don't play a game to be reminded of reality. I've got that 24\7.
    You're playing a game that used to heavily insinuate in it's manual that orcs captured and raped female species.

    This entire franchise is a spin off of Warhammer. If you can't handle mature/dark themes then leave. Stop pretending this isn't a game with very real dark shit that happens in its lore. War has consequences, some of those being deemed atrocities. This is called good writing. This is the entire basis of the warcraft franchise.

    Pillaging, civilian murder, conquest, slavery, brutality.

    We are literally running around butchering people/animals with giant cleavers with blood animations and light gore everywhere.

    Stop begging for a gutted version of this game, if you don't enjoy these themes you're simply in the wrong place.

  4. #7904
    Quote Originally Posted by Ateo View Post
    Stop begging for a gutted version of this game, if you don't enjoy these themes you're simply in the wrong place.
    It's not about the themes. It's all about presentation. They shouldn't be written so poorly or childishly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    It's not about the themes. It's all about presentation. They shouldn't be written so poorly or childishly.
    What should they do then? Act as if this game is real life and write a 24 page in game chat dialogue essay on the consequences of these actions? You're playing a game it has limited time for exposition. Grow up and learn to handle this shit better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ateo View Post
    What should they do then? Act as if this game is real life and write a 24 page in game chat dialogue essay on the consequences of these actions? You're playing a game it has limited time for exposition. Grow up and learn to handle this shit better.
    They shouldn’t touch topics they don’t have the skill or will to Handle properly just like the sleaze bags who originally put said topics into the setting shouldn’t have touched it while they or there work mates were playing pretend at the same things in the offices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    They shouldn’t touch topics they don’t have the skill or will to Handle properly just like the sleaze bags who originally put said topics into the setting shouldn’t have touched it while they or there work mates were playing pretend at the same things in the offices.
    You want censorship. Got it. You personally cant handle these themes therefore others writing is subpar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    They shouldn’t touch topics they don’t have the skill or will to Handle properly just like the sleaze bags who originally put said topics into the setting shouldn’t have touched it while they or there work mates were playing pretend at the same things in the offices.
    FYI when those themes were being originally written it was a company with like 10 members all being male. None of the drama from the past few years existed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ateo View Post
    You want censorship. Got it. You personally cant handle these themes therefore others writing is subpar.
    sure if that’s what you want to call it then in all for censoring shitty writers or people who don’t have the skill or will to do theses topics Justice.

    FYI when those themes were being originally written it was a company with like 10 members all being male. None of the drama from the past few years existed.
    Warcraft 1 had over 70 people work on it, WC2 had over 200 WC3 had over 400, wow had over 700, and the first woman at blizzard worked there atlest before WC1 launched according to an old blizzard founding documentary.

    The “10 guys in there basement” thing has never been any thing more then a myth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    sure if that’s what you want to call it then in all for censoring shitty writers or people who don’t have the skill or will to do theses topics Justice.

    Warcraft 1 had over 70 people work on it, WC2 had over 200 WC3 had over 400, wow had over 700, and the first woman at blizzard worked there atlest before WC1 launched according to an old blizzard founding documentary.

    The “10 guys in there basement” thing has never been any thing more then a myth.
    Heres warcraft 1 credits.

    https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pc/565...-humans/credit

    The men I'm talking about.

    Also, I do not care to discuss the IRL issues blizzard faced they aren't my problem nor place to discuss. We are discussing in game lore and writing in a fictional setting not the writers nor your personal bias.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Santandame View Post
    Any other thoughts on what 10.3 will be?
    I think people are overextrapolating from the recent Titan propaganda thing.

    While those themes are gonna pop up more and be woven into future stories, i see 10.3 to be the final showdown with us against the Incarnates.
    With Iridikron as the final boss, unleashing his hunger and trying to rid Azeroth of Titan influence via his Dragon Soul 2.0.

    With Fyrakk surviving, Vyranoth seemingly getting more humanized and Iridikron having yet to be dealt with, i don't see how the expansion could end any other way.

    The only thing that's unclear is the location.
    It could be set anywhere.

    Khaz Algar, Avaloren, bringing back the Elemental Planes, a brand new unnamed location, etc.
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  11. #7911
    Quote Originally Posted by Ateo View Post
    What should they do then?
    Get someone else to do the writing. Someone that can present an adult theme, preferably an actual adult writer.

  12. #7912
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Get someone else to do the writing. Someone that can present an adult theme, preferably an actual adult writer.
    How exactly does a writer change matter? What exactly do you want changed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ateo View Post
    Heres warcraft 1 credits.

    https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pc/565...-humans/credit

    The men I'm talking about.

    Also, I do not care to discuss the IRL issues blizzard faced they aren't my problem nor place to discuss. We are discussing in game lore and writing in a fictional setting not the writers nor your personal bias.
    So you think Metzen had nothing to do with WC1 as he’s not on that list?

    Here are the actual credits.

    And in line with blizzards own doc.

    Public Relations Susan Wooley-Sams
    Susan Wooley is known for StarCraft (1998), StarCraft: Brood War (1998) and Warcraft: Orcs & Humans (1994).
    https://m.imdb.com/name/nm1068408/
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  14. #7914
    Quote Originally Posted by Ateo View Post
    How exactly does a writer change matter? What exactly do you want changed?
    You have to be joking....for the sake of the written word...

  15. #7915
    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    So you think Metzen had nothing to do with WC1 as he’s not on that list?

    Here are the actual credits.

    And in line with blizzards own doc.




    https://m.imdb.com/name/nm1068408/

    You're arguing temp staffing and outsourced work at this point. You do realize those people aren't writers right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    You have to be joking....for the sake of the written word...
    Stop dodging and answer.

  16. #7916
    Quote Originally Posted by Ateo View Post
    Stop dodging and answer.
    If you don't understand the power of the written word, then you certainly have no business responding to me at all.

    But I do note that Blizz is getting rid of this..."quest." So it's neither here or there.

  17. #7917
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    If you don't understand the power of the written word, then you certainly have no business responding to me at all.

    But I do note that Blizz is getting rid of this..."quest." So it's neither here or there.
    A smug retort doesn't answer my question. You're just an arrogant kid acting as if Warcraft or any game for that matter should be held to some high brow standard, which they shouldn't.

    Get over yourself already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ateo View Post
    You're arguing temp staffing and outsourced work at this point. You do realize those people aren't writers right?
    https://www.mobygames.com/person/918...n-wooley-sams/

    Worked on every game up to wow’s launch, that’s one hell of a temp.

    Blizzard has had woman in its work force since WC1 probably earlier, it was never 10 dudes.

    And thanks to Metzens own comments we know that the writers they did have knew what was going on and he atleast feels like he didn’t do enough about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    https://www.mobygames.com/person/918...n-wooley-sams/

    Worked on every game up to wow’s launch, that’s one hell of a temp.

    Blizzard has had woman in its work force since WC1 probably earlier, it was never 10 dudes.

    And thanks to Metzens own comments we know that the writers they did have knew what was going on and he atleast feels like he didn’t do enough about it.
    Dude, how many times do I have to say I'm not talking about irl issues as they aren't my problem nor place? Stay on topic.


    PR isn't a key role for a game. You're over glorifying some person as if they are a key member of the creation of this franchise. They aren't. That is the last thing I'm saying about this irl shit. Stick to the game and the writing in the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ateo View Post
    Dude, how many times do I have to say I'm not talking about irl issues as they aren't my problem nor place? Stay on topic.


    PR isn't a key role for a game. You're over glorifying some person as if they are a key member of the creation of this franchise. They aren't. That is the last thing I'm saying about this irl shit. Stick to the game and the writing in the game.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ateo View Post
    FYI when those themes were being originally written it was a company with like 10 members all being male. None of the drama from the past few years existed.
    Change your goal post from at the company to “there not key roles” if you want, it doesn’t really matter to my point that you were wrong about blizzards make up at the time of said themes being put into the games.
    All I ever wanted was the truth. Remember those words as you read the ones that follow. I never set out to topple my father's kingdom of lies from a sense of misplaced pride. I never wanted to bleed the species to its marrow, reaving half the galaxy clean of human life in this bitter crusade. I never desired any of this, though I know the reasons for which it must be done. But all I ever wanted was the truth.

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