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    Quote Originally Posted by ImTheMizAwesome View Post
    Thrall?

    Longshot, but I could imagine that being a sign for Lightbound invasion, since WoD also revolved around Orcs, and I could imagine an AU Grom and Garrosh Hellscream making an appearance. Also Thrall will probably be the main one opposing Yrel, due to the Mag'har and Grom.

    We'll see.

    Great to see Starseeker and a Gnome there too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Thrall?

    Longshot, but I could imagine that being a sign for Lightbound invasion, since WoD also revolved around Orcs, and I could imagine an AU Grom and Garrosh Hellscream making an appearance. Also Thrall will probably be the main one opposing Yrel, due to the Mag'har and Grom.

    We'll see.

    Great to see Starseeker and a Gnome there too.
    I think it lends credence to either World Revamp or Lightbound invasion. Though I imagine Velen would also star alongside Thrall as the main Alliance aligned character to oppose Yrel.

    Avaloren and South Seas definitely lose some points being next if this art is any indication.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Thrall?

    Longshot, but I could imagine that being a sign for Lightbound invasion, since WoD also revolved around Orcs, and I could imagine an AU Grom and Garrosh Hellscream making an appearance. Also Thrall will probably be the main one opposing Yrel, due to the Mag'har and Grom.

    We'll see.

    Great to see Starseeker and a Gnome there too.
    Also after orc heritage questline all orc clans are on much better terms than before so it would be a force to reckon with if lightbound really decided to invade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImTheMizAwesome View Post
    Metzen or actually someone that brings some charisma and energy to the stage..

    Nothing against the man, but i hope john hight won't be even close to doing any announcements..
    Indeed.
    Watching Hight is like watching a very awkward middle school presentation.

    Metzen exuding his charisma on stage would be lovely to see again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Santandame View Post
    I think it lends credence to either World Revamp or Lightbound invasion.

    Avaloren and South Seas definitely lose some points being next if this art is any indication.
    I don't really think a World Revamp would eliminate the possibility of a Lightbound Invasion. A revamped world takes the place of a new continent, just like it did in Cataclysm. Revamped zones also facilitate an invasion storyline, since you can have established zones "occupied" by the Lightbound.

    But yeah, I agree; Thrall being there really reorients the possibilities.

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    The eventual Draenei heritage quest chain will be interesting to see.

    One could assume that it would lend further evidence to Lightbound next, or detract from it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImTheMizAwesome View Post
    Also after orc heritage questline all orc clans are on much better terms than before so it would be a force to reckon with if lightbound really decided to invade.

    It would be fun to watch the unified Orc clans backed by the Tauren and trolls really taking a stand against the Lightbound while the alliance waffles between which side to choose. Seeing old Grom standing next to Thrall would be badass and worth the price of admission alone.

    I'm also down with the Alliance being the baddies for once.

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    I think you guys are looking a bit too hard at the image, really. Deathwing was on the image for Blizzconline 2020, for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    It would be fun to watch the unified Orc clans backed by the Tauren and trolls really taking a stand against the Lightbound while the alliance waffles between which side to choose. Seeing old Grom standing next to Thrall would be badass and worth the price of admission alone.

    I'm also down with the Alliance being the baddies for once.
    Would be an interesting schism in the Alliance.

    I imagine those open to embracing the Lightbound would be Turalyon, Moira, Fareeya and others. Whereas you’d have Velen and Alleria as the key alliance figures to oppose.

    Could be a good opportunity for some major Dwarven focus actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiivar86 View Post
    I think you guys are looking a bit too hard at the image, really. Deathwing was on the image for Blizzconline 2020, for example.
    Probably - still fun little speculation, since he's the only character related to wow there, a gnome is for the mobile game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImTheMizAwesome View Post
    Probably - still fun little speculation, since he's the only character related to wow there, a gnome is for the mobile game.
    Fair enough.

    Just reminds me a bit of speculation from many years back, something about glowing eyes behind a crystal or ice or something and people trying to go "Lich King! Diablo!" etc.

    Sometimes a banner is just a banner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImTheMizAwesome View Post


    Green jesus on Blizzcon 2023 art, we will see more of thrall in coming patches besides the orc heritage armor? or maybe in new expansion.
    Returning to the roots with a world revamp and Thrall as a Horde main character!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiivar86 View Post
    Fair enough.

    Just reminds me a bit of speculation from many years back, something about glowing eyes behind a crystal or ice or something and people trying to go "Lich King! Diablo!" etc.

    Sometimes a banner is just a banner.
    I think in this case when it comes to thrall - Metzen is back on the team as advisor and probably works on next expansion rather than on this one, so we might see more of thrall.

    I might be probably far off, but i would say that thrall will be somehow shown in next expansion reveal CGI cinematic.

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    I think Thrall is destined to appear to smack down Iridikron and the Primalists, for obvious reasons. No idea why it hasn't happened yet however, unless it is a mandate to keep away faction-tied characters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmicpreds View Post
    Lightbound would be neat, tho it could just mean Thrall is part of 11.0 in a way, or his art just means "lol fun WoW art"

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    I wouldn't mind a world revamp or the backside of Azeroth, personally.

    I do want my Order Realm tho
    Well that’s the thing, if Thrall is one of the key characters for 11.0 then it rules out several possibilities. He isn’t particularly known for being a seafaring character, so that would rule out a South Seas expansion. We’d likely see Kul Tirans, Trolls, Goblins and Humans as the focal races there.

    If Avaloren is an expedition to a lost frontier then he’s not very likely for that either, it would be the more adventuring types of NPC characters as opposed to world leaders.

    It’s very likely we’re all looking into this far too much but it’s fun to speculate.

    IF Thrall is a key character for that expansion then the likely contenders are Lightbound for obvious reasons or World Revamp as it would be akin to Vanilla, of which you could argue he was the chief character. As well as the implications of healing the world and new beginnings.

    It’s something to discuss at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    I think Thrall is destined to appear to smack down Iridikron and the Primalists, for obvious reasons. No idea why it hasn't happened yet however, unless it is a mandate to keep away faction-tied characters.
    I disagree. This is the Aspects battle. Thrall doesn’t fit apart from being a throwback to his teaming up with the Aspects to take on Deathwing.
    Last edited by Santandame; 2023-06-29 at 06:38 PM.

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    God we do not need Thrall getting involved in another Dragon thing again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmicpreds View Post
    Cosmic Planes are too important to be used patch styled imo. Unlike Argus, you can do a lot with the Void Domain, or the Light Domain, etc.
    I know that's why I said two expansions would be another way to make it work.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmicpreds View Post
    SL and DF are giving us new villains and more unknown parts of the setting (Yes, the Dragon Isles counts for the unknown part), only difference is that SL lacked a plan and only had 2 patches, which wasn't enough for Zovaal to be properly developed.
    I don't think more patches would make Shadowlands much better because the expansion was unpopular in nearly every aspect: lore, theme, and gameplay. Meanwhile, I think the only weak part of Dragonflight is the lore, since both the gameplay and themes are pretty good.

    I'm not against new characters, but they need build-up. We just meet the Incarnates or the Death Pantheon and proceed to kill them, that's neither fulfilling nor exciting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    I don't really think a World Revamp would eliminate the possibility of a Lightbound Invasion. A revamped world takes the place of a new continent, just like it did in Cataclysm. Revamped zones also facilitate an invasion storyline, since you can have established zones "occupied" by the Lightbound.

    But yeah, I agree; Thrall being there really reorients the possibilities.
    A World Revamp would allow many story plots to happen on a minor scale in multiple regions, as we saw back in Vanilla, so I dearly hope Blizzard doesn't follow the Cataclysm pattern where everything is about "one threat".

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    Do we have anything encrypted that could be a Blizzcon reward at this point? Though obviously digital tickets will not be available for a while longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImTheMizAwesome View Post


    Green jesus on Blizzcon 2023 art, we will see more of thrall in coming patches besides the orc heritage armor? or maybe in new expansion.
    Omg a gnome tinkers confirmed?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?

    Jk, but in all seriousness I wonder if Thrall being there has any meaning or if he’s there just because.
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    The gnome is the Arclight rumble mascot.


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