1. #12241
    Quote Originally Posted by Worldshaper View Post
    Just musing.

    But I do think it could be a cool patch and/or raid, honestly.

    Dragon aspect story concludes with 10.2 and 10.2.5, let's say. Then 10.2.7 builds up the next thing, with Iridikron taking the spotlight again. All his siblings are gone (perhaps Vyranoth joined us after the Dream, which is effectively the same as her being dead in his eyes). He lives only for his goal of messing with the Titans with his new masters.

    Working with their Infinite allies, they return to the moment in time when the Titans are soon about to arrive on Azeroth. He puts a big, bright sign up that says: "HERE BE WORLD-SOULS... BE A REAL SHAME IF THESE OLD GODS GOT TO IT FIRST."

    Titans arrive, the World Soul artifact is used, blasts them.

    Or perhaps it's not even meant to blast them. Maybe it's meant to resurrect "The Ancient One", whatever that means. So instead of a few Old Gods, there's a Void Lord or something waiting for the Titans as they arrive. Nom nom nom.

    Presumably we win lest history should be erased, but the outcome might be that they get whatever it was that they needed from the past, leading to 11.0 which is a Void-centric expansion set on Azeroth.

    Thrall could be important in the expansion proper as well. If they indeed did mess up the world-soul by going back in time, then we might need to go in there in the present time and fix it.
    I have a feeling the Ancient One will be revealed to be Xal’ataths true form just to wrap up that little narrative thread.

  2. #12242
    Quote Originally Posted by Marlamin View Post
    1.15 is a weird one, it started showing up back in April where I assumed it was hardcore. It might still be the release they go with for Classic Hardcore but usually PTR would have caught up on a major version bump so close to release, so maybe it's that other project the Classic team has been cooking up? I guess we'll find out next week when hardcore ships.
    Season of Mastery 2?

  3. #12243
    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmicpreds View Post
    You're thinking linear time, which the Shadowlands isn't bound by either.
    Then Shadowlands wouldn't have happened. You still don't seem to have quite grasped what time actually is, rendering the rest of your claims meaningless.

    And look up what dimensions are while you're at it. What you're saying there is gibberish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Worldshaper View Post
    Presumably we win lest history should be erased, but the outcome might be that they get whatever it was that they needed from the past, leading to 11.0 which is a Void-centric expansion set on Azeroth.
    There's only two options here. Either our win is guaranteed and unavoidable or them winning simply creates a new seperate timeline. Otherwise you'd get the Grandfather Paradox, and paradoxa cannot happen.

    Either way, there cannot be an actual threat to us stemming from it.

  4. #12244
    Ok bois time to see if any leaks about the 10.1.7 story is true and if 10.2 leaks are next week

  5. #12245
    Quote Originally Posted by Black Rider View Post
    Season of Mastery 2?
    Maybe, I have no idea really. There was some talk of the devs working on an ambitious project which would explain them hiring that many people for classic, but that might be something else entirely.

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  7. #12247
    Quote Originally Posted by Catastrophy349 View Post
    Excited for next week!
    Considering Gamescom starts on Wednesday, I wonder when the internal news will drop?

  8. #12248
    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmicpreds View Post
    Do you think places like Zereth Mortis have time also then? Or?
    It most definitely does but like it was said to you before you don't understand what time means so don't throw another taunt, just take a minute to check what time means on wikipedia for instance and then we can come back to the conversation.

    There is no sarcasm in what I'm telling you, I would be interested in continuing to talk about this especially because it can be tied to various domains that we could see explored in future game contents.

  9. #12249
    Quote Originally Posted by Revamp Man View Post
    Ok bois time to see if any leaks about the 10.1.7 story is true and if 10.2 leaks are next week
    What leaks?
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  10. #12250
    A few leaks here on forum plus a couple from discord

  11. #12251
    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmicpreds View Post
    But it's not, as was talked about plenty of times before.

    Also, why would time be a thing in Zereth Mortis?
    Because it very clearly is? We quite clearly saw that things did happen sequentially according to Time. The Brokers who found Zereth Mortis were known beforehand, so it isnt like it was something that would happen in the future relative to our perception. And similarly the Enlightened Brokers had a clear society built around cause and effect as observed in the past.

    Time might have been different compared to how it would be on Azeroth, but Zereth Mortis was still very clearly bound by the same linear flow of time.
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  12. #12252
    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmicpreds View Post
    What do you mean "the brokers who found Zereth Mortis were known beforehand"? Also, the enlightened aren't at all about cause and effect. They are pushing a "prophecy" that's simply one of the many threads of fate the Universe is weaving.
    The Brokers we meet before Zereth Mortis knows about the lost expeditions. And the Enlightened Brokers in Zereth Mortis specifically state prior research into the nature of Zereth Mortis as a reason why they are not willing to help us with that anymore.

    Point A is followed by Point B, is followed by Point C. There isnt really a whole lot to unpack here. Unless you could point to something specific stating that they don't experience in a similar way then we have to go by what we see, which is that time flows linearly in Zereth Mortis, just as it does in the Shadowlands as a whole.
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  13. #12253
    Enough of Zereth Mortis.
    New leak just got posted:https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...0#post54195820

    Hearthstone globe it is referring to:

    2 continents Northwest of Kalimdor.

    TIME to discuss some actual new stuff
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  14. #12254
    Quote Originally Posted by micwini View Post
    Enough of Zereth Mortis.
    New leak just got posted:https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...0#post54195820

    Hearthstone globe it is referring to:

    2 continents Northwest of Kalimdor.

    TIME to discuss some actual new stuff
    Honestly I am struggling to see what is what there. You could have told me that it is a really funky map of EK, Kalimdor, Northrend, and Pandaria without the Maelstrom. Which for that matter it very well might be. Didnt Pandaria or whatever Southern Seas islands usually look like those two twin islands back in Wrath on the globes there?

    Until we see a really high quality map that clearly shows new continents then I am more inclined to believe this is just one of those WotLK globes we saw in Ulduar.
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  15. #12255
    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    Honestly I am struggling to see what is what there. You could have told me that it is a really funky map of EK, Kalimdor, Northrend, and Pandaria without the Maelstrom. Which for that matter it very well might be. Didnt Pandaria or whatever Southern Seas islands usually look like those two twin islands back in Wrath on the globes there?

    Until we see a really high quality map that clearly shows new continents then I am more inclined to believe this is just one of those WotLK globes we saw in Ulduar.
    So the way I see it: Far bottom right is kalimdor, then left of it you have Teldrassil and the 2 Draenei islands. And then those other 2 big landmasses are 2 new continents north west of kalimdor.
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  16. #12256
    Quote Originally Posted by micwini View Post
    Enough of Zereth Mortis.
    New leak just got posted:https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...0#post54195820

    Hearthstone globe it is referring to:

    2 continents Northwest of Kalimdor.

    TIME to discuss some actual new stuff
    Bottom right corner is Kalimdor. Teldrassil is next to it and the Draenei Isles on the bottom center. I am guessing that the top right continent is Avaloren and the giant mass at the left side is "The Other Side of Azeroth".

    Guess that the revamp dream is done. They would not put something like this in HS if they do not intend to build upon it. Curious to see what excuse they come up with for us not finding those two enormous continents in all these years.
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  17. #12257
    Quote Originally Posted by micwini View Post
    So the way I see it: Far bottom right is kalimdor, then left of it you have Teldrassil and the 2 Draenei islands. And then those other 2 big landmasses are 2 new continents north west of kalimdor.
    The leftmost one maybe, but I struggle to see the top one as anything but Northrend. If it was two new continents then there wouldnt be enough space on the globe for any other continents.
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  18. #12258
    Quote Originally Posted by Marlamin View Post
    Maybe, I have no idea really. There was some talk of the devs working on an ambitious project which would explain them hiring that many people for classic, but that might be something else entirely.
    Cata Classic+

  19. #12259
    Quote Originally Posted by Darkarath View Post
    Bottom right corner is Kalimdor. Teldrassil is next to it and the Draenei Isles on the bottom center. I am guessing that the top right continent is Avaloren and the giant mass at the left side is "The Other Side of Azeroth".

    Guess that the revamp dream is done. They would not put something like this in HS if they do not intend to build upon it. Curious to see what excuse they come up with for us not finding those two enormous continents in all these years.
    I really don't see it. Where for instance, would Northrend and EK be on this map? The new continent would be crashing into EK for this globe to work in practice.

    I stand by that this is simply a really poor copy of the old Wrath era globes.
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  20. #12260
    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    The leftmost one maybe, but I struggle to see the top one as anything but Northrend. If it was two new continents then there wouldnt be enough space on the globe for any other continents.
    Clearly not Northrend. The shape is completely different. They can make room for 20 continents if they want. The Other Side of Azeroth could contain everything that they want, they just have to scale the world a little bit.
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