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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    Legion teaser featuring Illidan was shown at Gamescom & the Key art for Blizzcon (featuring Illidan) was revealed in October, over a month later.



    That was released BEFORE Gamescon took place and before Legion's announcement at that event. It clearly shows Gul'dan representing WoW, and we both know that Gul'dan was integral to the plot in Legion.

    The rest is merely my opinion versus your opinion on what is the most clear/obvious upcoming threat. I don't view that as a useful conversation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RahEndymion View Post
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    Everyone here also trying to find patterns and basing their speculation of a bunch of assumptions based on patterns is also really odd. It's like you all believe there are some hard and fast commitments to these patterns top down in the company when I can guarantee you that isn't the case. There is literally no chance that devs / marketing are sitting down with a 'well we need to do X because it comes after W and before Y on our flip chart' or 'we have to have Q character on the art because there's a thread on mmoc where they believe that determines a characters specific role in an expansion'.
    Why would you believe that's the case? Clearly the obvious interpretation is that Blizzard likes to throw hints at what they're going to do next, and the promo art is part of that process. It isn't anyone here believing that they control what Blizzard does, it's recognizing that Blizzard is giving us an Easter egg to generate hype. They do it all the time, and they've done it repeatedly in some cases. The promo key art is one such repeatable example.

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    Prediction: the first thing we see in the cinematic is a fade-in on Gorribal/The Sword.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    Prediction: the first thing we see in the cinematic is a fade-in on Gorribal/The Sword.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    Prediction: the first thing we see in the cinematic is a fade-in on Gorribal/The Sword.
    And then we hear Ions voice in the background, sensually whispering "Sword? What sword?"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    And then we hear Ions voice in the background, sensually whispering "Sword? What sword?"
    The sword and Gilneas are the two big things the devs actually talk about on Azeroth that I can't see relating to New Continent expansion. Gorribal could get scooped back up if the Pantheon appears again, per Iridikrons plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    Prediction: the first thing we see in the cinematic is a fade-in on Gorribal/The Sword.
    ..with a huge pirate flag on top. What a twist!

    To be more serious. I think Thrall on Blizzcon art and Metzen (likely) revealing expansion are both hints that are worth consideration. But still strongest one is Iridikron cutscene in 10.1.5.

    Of course it's more than likely that some shop thing is teasing expansion, but there are so many these days it's harder to guess expac just from them. Was there some unknown creature that could exist in new continent? Or maybe Kodo mount suggest it won't be new continent at all?
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    gather up all of the crew
    its time to ship out maiden's brew
    Thrall will be "sail with me"
    heroes by our side
    Gallywix shall rise again
    reunite with our old friends
    wait for the storm to finally end

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Why would you believe that's the case? Clearly the obvious interpretation is that Blizzard likes to throw hints at what they're going to do next, and the promo art is part of that process. It isn't anyone here believing that they control what Blizzard does, it's recognizing that Blizzard is giving us an Easter egg to generate hype. They do it all the time, and they've done it repeatedly in some cases. The promo key art is one such repeatable example.
    But you're assuming it's an intentional hint rather than just tying the media in with the release. It could be for Cataclysm classic, it could be because of Metzens return and Thrall is his most iconic character, it could be that Thrall will play an integral part in the next xpac.

    I wasn't suggesting people here think they control blizzard, that's an odd read. I was suggesting people here think everything is some form of intentional hint rather than just common sense marketing. Are we also suggesting that Lilith and Winston are going to be very important characters in D4/OW2 in the next year too or do you think the WoW team single headedly controls Blizzcon banners?

    While I think it is possible, maybe even likely, that Thrall will be a prominent character in the next expansion and that will have influenced their decisions for the banner; it's also very possible that the xpac theme and location does not feature any as yet known major characters outside of the generic few talking heads that would never be on the blizzcon art in the first place.

    My point was more so that not everything is an intentional breadcrumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolly Roger View Post
    gather up all of the crew
    its time to ship out maiden's brew
    Thrall will be "sail with me"
    heroes by our side
    Gallywix shall rise again
    reunite with our old friends
    wait for the storm to finally end
    Thrall CONFIRMED for pirate expansion!

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    Twist. We sail away with the pirates. But then Queen Azshara drowns them all and sinks their ships. Underwater expansion in which we're the only survivor.

    Twist. We sail away with the pirates. But then the Harbinger flicks her finger at us, sending us into space. Space pirates!

    Twist. We're all just downloading content illegaly, we didn't want for any of this to happen. Honest.

    Twist. It's not about pirates.

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    The alliance characters all have the opportunity to name a ship and we even gather the crew

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    Gallywix is also still a thing somewhere....

    I'm gonna guess we do get ship wrecked

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    People are really getting crazy with their false 11.0 theories. So many posts about what the next expansion is going to be about, and we are not in October yet...

    Hopefully 10.1.7 quests and the reveal of 10.2 this week will help us to narrow 11.0 a little bit. But as some people say, if the Night Elves and Forsaken Heritage Quests deal about stuff of the Old World while leaving some threads unfinished, chances of a world revamp would increase IMO.

    DF could easily end with a cataclysmic event... We shall see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    I don't agree that the most obvious antagonist force right now is a "harbinger" that we don't even know the name of with us fighting an ambiguous void threat.
    There hasn’t really been a history of knowing the “obvious antagonist threat” the expansion before.
    In BfA we didn’t know who the jailer was. In MoP we didn’t know what the Iron Horde was. The list goes on for almost every xpac except Legion imo.

    Besides, we already know the harbinger is most likely Xalatath because we literally see her in the void portal at the end of Dawn of the Infinite.

    I would argue that the most obvious antagonistic force is Yrel, because we actually know who she is and what level of threat she poses.
    Yrel, who is on another planet from a closed off, and most likely deleted timeline. Don’t see how that’s “an obvious antagonist force”

    In addition, a Yrel expansion would also introduce playable Arakkoa and Ogres, two highly demanded playable races.
    Ogres aren’t going to happen. At most we’re getting Rexxar’s race.
    Arakkoa I’m iffy about. We don’t need yet another winged race.

    Especially if it’s a void related expansion as is being hinted, I see Ethereals becoming playable. They’re unique enough, and their story is tied directly with the void with The Protectorate & Shadowguard being on both sides of the conflict.
    Not to mention blizzard outright saying we’ll be seeing more of the Ethereals, and all the ethereal related hints. (And the curious coin short thing in the adventure guide)

    Naga would be cool too, blizzard has been wanting them playable since Vanilla. Thanks to Dracthyr and Mechagnomes, Naga transmog is a nonissue to blizzard. Once they make them able to mount up they’ll be set.

    It fits the hints we received from BFA and Shadowlands, it fits Thrall being on the promo art, it fits Metzen's return, and it aligns with the 10th anniversary of WoD and the 20th anniversary of WoW.
    Maybe Thrall being on the promo art has nothing to do with the next expansion as a character and has more to do with Metzen’s return?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Uh, we were in Kul'tiras because of Jaina, and alliance players quest in Kul'tiras because of Jaina.
    No on both accounts. We were in Kul Tiras because the Alliance needed a better fleet. Jaina was sent along because she's the last living relative of the then-current leader of Kul Tiras, though that quickly turned out to not be the best of ideas. We quest there because we can't get the fleet without fixing the country first.

    Jaina doesn't actually play a significant role until the very end of that story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RahEndymion View Post
    But you're assuming it's an intentional hint rather than just tying the media in with the release. It could be for Cataclysm classic, it could be because of Metzens return and Thrall is his most iconic character, it could be that Thrall will play an integral part in the next xpac.

    I wasn't suggesting people here think they control blizzard, that's an odd read. I was suggesting people here think everything is some form of intentional hint rather than just common sense marketing. Are we also suggesting that Lilith and Winston are going to be very important characters in D4/OW2 in the next year too or do you think the WoW team single headedly controls Blizzcon banners?

    While I think it is possible, maybe even likely, that Thrall will be a prominent character in the next expansion and that will have influenced their decisions for the banner; it's also very possible that the xpac theme and location does not feature any as yet known major characters outside of the generic few talking heads that would never be on the blizzcon art in the first place.

    My point was more so that not everything is an intentional breadcrumb.
    The difference here is that this has occurred in the last 3 eligible expansions with the exception of DF due to COVID cancelling BlizzCon and throwing its typical announcement schedule off. In the case of Legion, BFA and Shadowlands, the key art showcased a main character and generally the theme of that expansion as related to that character. There's no reason to believe that this isn't happening again with Thrall for 11.0.

    Also we know it isn't Cataclysm classic, because Thrall looked like this in Cataclysm;



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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightshade711 View Post
    There hasn’t really been a history of knowing the “obvious antagonist threat” the expansion before.
    In BfA we didn’t know who the jailer was. In MoP we didn’t know what the Iron Horde was. The list goes on for almost every xpac except Legion imo.
    And Yrel's Lightbound army is analogous with the Burning Legion, just light vs fel.

    Besides, we already know the harbinger is most likely Xalatath because we literally see her in the void portal at the end of Dawn of the Infinite.
    Which sounds like a plot line that is going to be wrapped up in Dragonflight.

    Yrel, who is on another planet from a closed off, and most likely deleted timeline. Don’t see how that’s “an obvious antagonist force”
    Alternate timelines and realities is something we've been dealing with in this current patch. Interestingly by the same group who introduced the AU Draenor timeline in the first place.

    Ogres aren’t going to happen. At most we’re getting Rexxar’s race.
    Arakkoa I’m iffy about. We don’t need yet another winged race.
    I would say they're better options than Hozen and Jinyu.

    Especially if it’s a void related expansion as is being hinted, I see Ethereals becoming playable. They’re unique enough, and their story is tied directly with the void with The Protectorate & Shadowguard being on both sides of the conflict.
    Not to mention blizzard outright saying we’ll be seeing more of the Ethereals, and all the ethereal related hints. (And the curious coin short thing in the adventure guide)
    Yeah, I don't see another neutral race dropping right after Dracthyr.

    Maybe Thrall being on the promo art has nothing to do with the next expansion as a character and has more to do with Metzen’s return?
    Doubtful, given the rather constant history of BlizzCon promo art.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    No on both accounts. We were in Kul Tiras because the Alliance needed a better fleet. Jaina was sent along because she's the last living relative of the then-current leader of Kul Tiras, though that quickly turned out to not be the best of ideas. We quest there because we can't get the fleet without fixing the country first.

    Jaina doesn't actually play a significant role until the very end of that story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Splitting hairs 101 folks...
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    Jeez, there are SO many "leaks" on this forum, now. Went from a few a week to like 10 different ones today alone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catastrophy349 View Post
    Jeez, there are SO many "leaks" on this forum, now. Went from a few a week to like 10 different ones today alone!
    And all of them are really uninteresting too.

    Quite a shame, i usually look forward to reading them just for the funsies.
    But this year it's just been a stream of mass produced disappointment.


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    Just wait until mid-end of October. Then, we shall see what is being cooked up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    And all of them are really uninteresting too.

    Quite a shame, i usually look forward to reading them just for the funsies.
    But this year it's just been a stream of mass produced disappointment.
    It's called ChatGPT emergence. We are gonna get absolutely flooded by these in next 2 months.
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