1. #15401
    Quote Originally Posted by Sharby View Post
    Image looks more like a Diablo IV leak than a WoW leak to be honest, assuming its even real.


    This bit is definitely the most "AI-looking" segment of the image though, but it could be an odd-looking frame because the object is in motion.

    Actually, if you look at it, you can see the "thing" in the background wearing the same kind of red-ish tissue necklace the orc in the foreground is. Also, the armor they have on their shoulder looks the same. Finally, regarding the head shape, you can see 2 horn-type growth on the side of his forehead while the top of it seems pointy too. Which match the shape of the creature in the background.
    The two .. "blades", i'd go for them being part of the shoulder plates, or some growth out of their back. But they are the same looking specie, wearing the same looking armor.

  2. #15402
    Quote Originally Posted by Echil46 View Post
    Actually, if you look at it, you can see the "thing" in the background wearing the same kind of red-ish tissue necklace the orc in the foreground is. Also, the armor they have on their shoulder looks the same. Finally, regarding the head shape, you can see 2 horn-type growth on the side of his forehead while the top of it seems pointy too. Which match the shape of the creature in the background.
    The two .. "blades", i'd go for them being part of the shoulder plates, or some growth out of their back. But they are the same looking specie, wearing the same looking armor.
    That's what makes me think this isn't AI. They both have the same red scarf, similar shoulders and bald weird green heads with pointy ears.

    The thing in the background could be anything, but their models are close to identical.

    At this point I'm just unsure if it's Warcraft at all. But they are wearing a lot of clothes for Diablo...?

  3. #15403
    That is obviously Fyrakk
    "You know you that bitch when you cause all this conversation."

  4. #15404
    Quote Originally Posted by Sharby View Post
    Image looks more like a Diablo IV leak than a WoW leak to be honest, assuming its even real.


    This bit is definitely the most "AI-looking" segment of the image though, but it could be an odd-looking frame because the object is in motion.

    I see a squidface void dude in the center, wearing shoulder armor that has two large, unwieldy spikes.

  5. #15405
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    The thing in the background could be anything, but their models are close to identical.

    At this point I'm just unsure if it's Warcraft at all. But they are wearing a lot of clothes for Diablo...?
    Looking at the Grom model, the guy in the leak looks almost identical. Plus all the clothing in the cgi cinematics looks diablo-esque.
    Quote Originally Posted by Revamp Man View Post
    Calia lied to her husband about her identity
    No she didn't. Why would she? Even in her account she told her parents about the relationship & pregnancy immediately but they made her marry a noblemen anyway. And you still didn't address where Bolvar & his unnamed wife were married & Calia and her unnamed beau were not.
    Quote Originally Posted by Revamp Man View Post
    Both families are presumed dead pretty sure missing persons wasn't exactly on the case
    But they weren't. Bolvar & Taelia were never presumed dead, they weren't even in a life or death situation that Calia described.

    You've oversimplified the description of events so far your version doesn't match the canon anymore.
    Quote Originally Posted by FossilFree View Post
    I see a squidface void dude in the center, wearing shoulder armor that has two large, unwieldy spikes.
    I bet ten bucks its just a human in plate armor with two big flags in the background.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mecheon View Post
    Why would the design be basically a zombie though? From just a visual level, you want to make things visually distinct so you know what you're up against, and WoW's always been good at that. Even in Shadowlands, everything we went up against had a very distinctive visual flair to it that immediately made it clear what you were up against. Maw enemies had different visual looks than Forsworn ones despite those two starting as allies
    What makes you think it looks like a zombie? There's no flesh peeling off, it doesn't look emaciated, and there's not threads holding it's body together, it just looks grey.

    Here's the thing, you want to sell people on "Here's this new exciting thing happening and its Different". Heck, let's bring up Sin Eaters even, we're talking about light magic corrupting things.

    Here's how we first saw what a Sin Eater be. They are blatently Different enemies from the usual stuff you fight and have a clear visual design to them, looking like living marble statues. Then later you get to see someone turned into a Sin Eater in a flat out horror scene to really press home how wrong the things are. But all through, they have a distinctive visual design. When you fight a Sin Eater, be it from a bear or a bird or anything, you know its a Sin Eater, even if its something as weird as a giant cube

    WoW is good at the 'things being linked by a consistent visual design', they're not going to give up on decades of 'Here's what the Light looks like on things'
    Okay, but if this is real, we haven't seen the entire CGI intro yet, so it's a bit early to say that this doesn't have a consistent design with WoW. Also IF these are Lightbound Orcs, it wouldn't be giving up on what the Light looks like, it would be an expansion of what it looks like.

  7. #15407
    I'm happy to be wrong but I also don't think that "leak" is from anything WoW related. Will find out tomorrow I guess.

  8. #15408
    it does look like a bloodthirsty orc, twisted with some power, but I think we can safely say it's not a light bound orc, he looks more undead, eyes are red. light bound would have been brown to began with, in AU draenor they didn't take the fel

  9. #15409
    So. Couple of things. You can only see a couple of strands, and they are same color as the scarf, but this thing has hair.
    Also, what could be seen as the start of an ear, i think are two different horns, growing out its cheekbone, making 3 in total on the right side of its face. If not horns, then the whole ear is circled with that orange tint. The chin is split, and there's a bump on its hear. Seeing all those makes me feel like its not zombie, but something that made their bone almost outgrow their skin.

    Compare it to Grom's picture, they have no lip. It's emaciated, but not because it's thin, but because the bones are too big. Which would be consistent with growing horns. Which makes me think those things the second creature has, are some sort of litteral shoulderblades growing from its back. Think Guldan atop the nighthold.

    So i'd wager its a real leak, but... that feels too "body horror", so maybe not a warcraft leak.

  10. #15410
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    What makes you think it looks like a zombie? There's no flesh peeling off, it doesn't look emaciated, and there's not threads holding it's body together, it just looks grey.
    His skin is stretched tight across his cheeks, that ain't what healthy, alive people look like. Dude looks like a withered corpse and.... Honestly, given the nose and ears, looks a lot bat like than an orc. Frankly, dude looks like an orc vampire if anything

    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Okay, but if this is real, we haven't seen the entire CGI intro yet, so it's a bit early to say that this doesn't have a consistent design with WoW. Also IF these are Lightbound Orcs, it wouldn't be giving up on what the Light looks like, it would be an expansion of what it looks like.
    We don't even know if its for WoW yet or Invasion of the Batlings, the hot new mobile gacha game.

    If they're going to be Lightforged orcs, they are going to look like Lightforged orcs, not horned tusked vampires. Like, that image would work more as "Dreadlord infected orc" than it would Lightforged. That image is what I'd expect from Denathrius coming back, not anything remotely to do with the Light.
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  11. #15411
    those two horns behind, could be separate from him, and something in the background??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mecheon View Post
    His skin is stretched tight across his cheeks, that ain't what healthy, alive people look like. Dude looks like a withered corpse and.... Honestly, given the nose, looks a lot bat like than an orc. Frankly, dude looks like an orc vampire if anything


    We don't even know if its for WoW yet or Invasion of the Batlings, the hot new mobile gacha game.

    If they're going to be Lightforged orcs, they are going to look like Lightforged orcs, not horned tusked vampires. Like, that image would work more as "Dreadlord infected orc" than it would Lightforged. That image is what I'd expect from Denathrius coming back, not anything remotely to do with the Light.
    Again, you're comparing in game models to CG models. Look at the Orcs in the WoD cinematic. They looked far more disgusting and nightmarish than playable orcs, and they weren't even corrupted. Further, IF this is a Lightbound invasion, we don't know at what point this invasion is taking place on Yrel's side. This could be days, decades, or centuries after the Mag'har fled Draenor. If we're talking decades, there's no telling how much every creature could be physically warped by the Nauru's influence.

    There's no hard rules to this. Blizzard can twist the rules any way they want. The bottom line is that if this is a WoW leak, there's only so many relevant cosmic forces that would bring an army of weird looking orcs our way, and the prime candidate is Yrel's Lightbound army.

  13. #15413
    Quote Originally Posted by Scyth View Post
    I also find it odd we are yet to see Ysera at all. Surely she has to be involved this patch..
    beware the eyes of green
    we lost malfurion for her and shes just MIA
    though that was to nerf the cast

  14. #15414
    he looks like he is already green, AU draenor orcs didn't take the fel. the maghar would be brown, plus the red eyes, frail, the little horns... doesn't seem the light's work. he looks more as if reanimated.
    though after checking previous orcs from cinematic, his ear is very different in shape, much bigger too

  15. #15415
    Quote Originally Posted by Safio View Post
    he looks like he is already green, AU draenor orcs didn't take the fel. the maghar would be brown, plus the red eyes, frail, the little horns... doesn't seem the light's work. he looks more as if reanimated.
    though after checking previous orcs from cinematic, his ear is very different in shape, much bigger too
    It does appear to be an orc & human. Ala the very first warcraft 3 cinematic. If this is real, it means they did take the anniversary into consideration for 11.0 (also suggesting a November 2024 release date)

    It's funny that Metzen's influence on both 11.0 & the Warcraft movie was "Add an homage to the reign of chaos cinematic"

    Who gave the theory about another Alternate timeline? If it's supposed to be an Orcs Versus Humans homage, I'm notcing without the warm light of the room, it looks like the Human is wearing red under his armor & the orc is wearing blue, (the warm light making the blue look black) the reverse of the colors associated with them in the og cinematic. Has the prime timeline changed?
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  16. #15416
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Again, you're comparing in game models to CG models. Look at the Orcs in the WoD cinematic. They looked far more disgusting and nightmarish than playable orcs, and they weren't even corrupted. Further, IF this is a Lightbound invasion, we don't know at what point this invasion is taking place on Yrel's side. This could be days, decades, or centuries after the Mag'har fled Draenor. If we're talking decades, there's no telling how much every creature could be physically warped by the Nauru's influence.

    There's no hard rules to this. Blizzard can twist the rules any way they want. The bottom line is that if this is a WoW leak, there's only so many relevant cosmic forces that would bring an army of weird looking orcs our way, and the prime candidate is Yrel's Lightbound army.
    I'm not even comparing it to anything, I'm looking at the one model presented here by itself. Sure, the WoD cinematic orcs didn't look beautiful, but they had muscle. They had mass. They looked healthy. This dude looks like a withered corpse that got up walking, to say nothing for the horn out his head (which frankly is probably an AI artifact). Seriously, just LOOK at those cheek-bones. Does that look alive to you?

    Sure there's no hard rules to this, but if a dude has a bat-like nose, bat like ears, tiny pin-prick eyes and a withered, corpse-like appearance, then I'm going to assume its a vampire or at least evoking the idea of being a vampire, not something bathed in holy magic. You could drop that same image in an Elder Scrolls fan discord and tell them ESO is adding Vampire Lords as a playable option and frankly, that image would be more believed there as "Yup, that's a Vampire Lord Orc" than anything to do with the Lightforged. That's before you even get to the horns which, hrm, I wonder what horned vampiric things we know about in this game who always generally look like corpses even at the best of times, due to being associated with Death?

  17. #15417
    Gonna go out on a limb and guess that the leak is real. Looks very convincing to me. Definitely think that's a dreadlord. Too many vampiric features for it not to be. Can't wait to find out if I'm right or wrong!

  18. #15418
    was replying to someone saying that this is a lightbound orc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lolites View Post
    except Argus wasnt even plan at the time of release of legion...
    It was, actually. Blizzard most likely already has at least a rough plan on where to take things through the entire expansion's lifetime. To say that Argus wasn't in the pipeline by Legion's release is... naive. Nonsensical, even.

    island below broken shore on map that was original plan for the patch, later removed (thal-something? idk the name)...
    when it was removed and people thought it will be scrapped patch like in wod Ion said no, patch will be but we have something else as "T-island" would be just another night elven ruins
    Any evidence of that? This is the first time I've heard of that one.
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  20. #15420
    Quote Originally Posted by Le Conceptuel View Post
    The text is misaligned,—which is suitable to the idea it's ML-generated because any text would likely have to be added manually,—the design looks very strange and out-of-place, the design in the background looks weird and very much brings to mind the kind of thing that an ML art program might generate in the background. I'm of the mind it looks fake. Due to the way in which the text is misaligned, I'm even of the mind he might have added it after he took the photo.
    But thats the thing, if that pic is AI, and the "Confidential" text was manually added later...why didnt the creator align the writing with the upper frame of the video. It would mean that dude went through the effort of having a good AI create a pretty realistic pic (as others have already said, this is better than standart AI stuff everyone could do in a minute)...only to then screw it all up by writing on it it and not even bothering to align the text with the frame, which wouldve taken around 30 seconds.
    Who would spend so much of effort, only to ruin it with the most obvious and easily fixable thing at the very end.

    Not saying the picture is definitely real ofc, but also not ruling it out as definitely fake so far.
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