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    Looking at some Ptr screen shots, and is blizzard really sensing Forsaken almost exclusively to help out in the dream? Not abunch of earthen ring or CC who didn’t take part in BFA?

    It’s like sending abunch of card carrying Nazi members who never got punished to help found Israel, what’s wrong with the people at blizzard.
    All I ever wanted was the truth. Remember those words as you read the ones that follow. I never set out to topple my father's kingdom of lies from a sense of misplaced pride. I never wanted to bleed the species to its marrow, reaving half the galaxy clean of human life in this bitter crusade. I never desired any of this, though I know the reasons for which it must be done. But all I ever wanted was the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    Looking at some Ptr screen shots, and is blizzard really sensing Forsaken almost exclusively to help out in the dream? Not abunch of earthen ring or CC who didn’t take part in BFA?

    It’s like sending abunch of card carrying Nazi members who never got punished to help found Israel, what’s wrong with the people at blizzard.
    CC are a part of the dream wardens, but the Earthen Ring I haven't found. Considering the lack of them in DF I assume it's intentional and we don't know why (main faction of 11.0?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    It’s like sending abunch of card carrying Nazi members who never got punished to help found Israel, what’s wrong with the people at blizzard.
    Or like inviting Germany to NATO just 10 years after w-- oh wait, that happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dracullus View Post
    Or like inviting Germany to NATO just 10 years after w-- oh wait, that happened.
    Ya who can forget when Germany didn’t punish any one other then Hitler and it was still ran by the same Nazi members minus him after the war right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yarathir View Post
    Looks neat.

    What happened to the Maladath sword used by Kur'talos? Did it ever become available?
    As with all cosmetics that have been datamined but not found, the answer will almost certainly be somewhere on the Trading Post calendar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alanar View Post
    And is it an upgrade to the older model?
    Or old model still better?
    It is how i imagined it would be if they did remake it, love the classic "warcrafty" feel of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    CC are a part of the dream wardens, but the Earthen Ring I haven't found. Considering the lack of them in DF I assume it's intentional and we don't know why (main faction of 11.0?)
    Good that the circle shows up atleast though not replacing The forsaken with earth ring is mind boggling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foolicious View Post
    Red crane has been part of mistweaver since the beginning.I've seen mixed feeling about that set, but i actually like it. It's so annoying if a class has speccs with very different aestetics but keeps repeating the same thing over and over. For the ones that prefer the ww/bm style there are like 20 set's to choose from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    Looking at some Ptr screen shots, and is blizzard really sensing Forsaken almost exclusively to help out in the dream? Not abunch of earthen ring or CC who didn’t take part in BFA?

    It’s like sending abunch of card carrying Nazi members who never got punished to help found Israel, what’s wrong with the people at blizzard.
    Why would there not be Forsaken there? And why do you assume that all Forsaken were onboard with Sylvanas' plans? Is it not possible that the reason we have Forsaken there is because said Forsaken see the need to help fix Sylvanas' mess?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    Ya who can forget when Germany didn’t punish any one other then Hitler and it was still Nazi ran by the same Nazi members minus him after the war right?
    Omg who cares....

    If this was real life sylvanas would be dead.

    Also remember "Draenor is free"??

    The forsaken are trying to right their wrongs by protecting the tree made up of souls they killed. I think it makes perfect sense for atonement.

    Maybe this is how we get forsaken druids

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    As with all cosmetics that have been datamined but not found, the answer will almost certainly be somewhere on the Trading Post calendar.
    I see. That makes sense.
    I was certain I saw it datamined for the trading post at some point, but I was starting to doubt myself (it came to me in a dream)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    Good that the circle shows up atleast though not replacing The forsaken with earth ring is mind boggling.
    It's just Voss and the Dark Rangers. They also mention people hate them lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fahrad Wagner View Post
    That whole Tanaris Wastelands set… what if it’s a hint of the direction they’re going to revamp Tanaris? Something à la Madmax?
    Where is this Tanaris Wastelands set? Can't see it anywhere.
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    I can’t find it either. If someone could post that would be great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    Why would there not be Forsaken there? And why do you assume that all Forsaken were onboard with Sylvanas' plans? Is it not possible that the reason we have Forsaken there is because said Forsaken see the need to help fix Sylvanas' mess?
    There shouldn’t be any forsaken there for the same reason the horde shouldn’t be allowed into night elf lands, after you commit genocide and are totally unrepentant beyond “we were just following order” the victims of said genocide should want nothing to do with you and you shouldn’t be trusted to breath in there land let alone help out.

    And we have all of BFA to look to, the majority of the horde were on board with sylvanas plans until she turned on them.
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    Here are the icons.



    I think it's probably an in-game shop set, but the theming for Tanaris is interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Well Done Steak View Post
    Omg who cares....

    If this was real life sylvanas would be dead.

    Also remember "Draenor is free"??

    The forsaken are trying to right their wrongs by protecting the tree made up of souls they killed. I think it makes perfect sense for atonement.

    Maybe this is how we get forsaken druids
    “Draenor is free“ and every thing with “redeeming” Sylvanas is god awful writing and blizzard should be trying to improve there awful writer not sticking with it, and this seems like more of the same instead of course correction.
    All I ever wanted was the truth. Remember those words as you read the ones that follow. I never set out to topple my father's kingdom of lies from a sense of misplaced pride. I never wanted to bleed the species to its marrow, reaving half the galaxy clean of human life in this bitter crusade. I never desired any of this, though I know the reasons for which it must be done. But all I ever wanted was the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    Here are the icons.

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    I think it's probably an in-game shop set, but the theming for Tanaris is interesting.
    Interesting. Looks very much Goblin themed, so I see why questions of Gadgetzan is coming up.
    I guess there is nothing to do but wait. Shop and Trading Post sets can be quite hard to predict for sure. Who would after all predict stuff like the Kirin Tor set not being linked at all the the Kiron Tor presence in the Dragon Isles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    There shouldn’t be any forsaken there for the same reason the horde shouldn’t be allowed into night elf lands, after you commit genocide and are totally unrepentant beyond “we were just following order” the victims of said genocide should want nothing to do with you and you shouldn’t be trusted to breath in there land let alone help out.

    And we have all of BFA to look to, the majority of the horde were on board with sylvanas plans until she turned on them.
    But why do you assume these Forsaken are totally unrepentant about their participation in Teldrassil burning? Is this the same mindset that makes you think that all Germans were Nazis?

    Besides, you will need some Forsaken presence, otherwise you wouldnt have a good link to making them Druids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    Ya who can forget when Germany didn’t punish any one other then Hitler and it was still ran by the same Nazi members minus him after the war right?
    Can you point some responsible for war crimes that lead Forsaken currently? Cause it's not like we have many characters to study, and during burning of Teldrassil you can see only Sylvanas, Nathanos and Saurfang.

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