1. #17041
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Said something similar in the "next playable race" thread regarding vulpera; everybody clamoring this or that earlier, but vulpera became the next race then. A race that no one wanted.
    Vulpera were quite popular actually. It was those that didnt want a furry race that were against it.

    The contentious ones were Mechagnomes as an AR, instead of Ankoan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    Vulpera were quite popular actually. It was those that didnt want a furry race that were against it.

    The contentious ones were Mechagnomes as an AR, instead of Ankoan.
    I'd take basic campfire over diaper gnomes. It's not just that we got Mechagnomes, it is how they were implemented.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catastrophy349 View Post
    11.0 HYPE is now official!
    ayee man you know it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    All but confirmed Blizzcon announcement.

    We datamined 11.0 preorders a while ago.
    And Blizzard is actively stirring the pot.
    yeah seems to be the vibe im getting as well, except a couple odd tweets from muffinus before referencing this thread days before announcement, we didn't get this quite often.
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    To illustrate, let me spitball a few random concepts:

    • Eastern Kingdoms war. Scarlet Crusade empowered by "evil Light". Stormwind in disarray. Void strikes from the Darkmoon Faire. Hidden Old God. Scarlet Crusade ends up saving us. Greyzone morally.
    • Ancient Azeroth becomes available through Bronze dragon magic and the Emerald Dream. Expansion focused on Void, Life, Order, Elements, Elune, etc. witness the forging of our timeline and shaping of the world. Find out the Old Gods is an illusion of the Titans' doing. All eyes shall open.
    • Avaloren isn't some New World landmass to explore. It's basically Avalon, land of the "dead", those who sleep. Not Shadowlands or Lifelands, but Azeroth's first real kingdom. The planet was inhabited by sentient people with developed societies. But the land then slumbered, much like the Dragon Isles. An artificially or magically induced sleep, allowing the Titans to peacefully take over Kalimdor. These "heretics" might be Elune's people. Their technology even supersedes that of the Titans. They had to be locked away and hidden from sight.
    • Azeroth was already conquered, aeons ago. We are dreaming, and need to escape our prison.
    • The Dwarves of Ironforge have delved too deep. Underneath the city, an ancient evil stirs. Eastern Kingdoms falls, but out of nowhere the Lightbound Host comes thorough the Dark Portal.
    • C'thun returns. Southern Kalimdor is overrun. The sword of Sargeras allowed him to gobble up Azerite, ensuring his rejuvenation. This time, he is more powerful than ever. The final step in the Naga prophecy. The Harbinger strikes. He is the one to remain and consume all other Old Gods. He's the chosen, the last. Using the essence of Galakrond (Yogg-Saron), N'Zoth (Black Blade of the Empire), and Y'Shaarj (also the dagger), they infuse C'thun with the Void Disc. He's now essentially a Void Lord, or is becoming one.

  5. #17045
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadochi View Post

    yeah seems to be the vibe im getting as well, except a couple odd tweets from muffinus before referencing this thread days before announcement, we didn't get this quite often.
    I think this thread is one of the few parts of MMOChampion that still has some relevance in the community.

  6. #17046
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    I'd take basic campfire over diaper gnomes. It's not just that we got Mechagnomes, it is how they were implemented.
    Yeah. While not a gnome fan at all, I can still see how mechagnome a could have been much cooler than what we got.

  7. #17047
    Quote Originally Posted by Villager720 View Post
    Yeah. While not a gnome fan at all, I can still see how mechagnome a could have been much cooler than what we got.
    For me, no version of gnome makes sense in the game until we have a tinker class. It's like having blood elves without casters or orcs without warriors.

  8. #17048
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    For me, no version of gnome makes sense in the game until we have a tinker class. It's like having blood elves without casters or orcs without warriors.
    Admittedly, it is somewhat baffling that the game was released without it. It definitely makes it difficult to roleplay gnomes and goblins effectively due to how fundamental an unplayable class is to their identity. While you can just take the engineering profession, it still will eternally play second fiddle to a class that will invariably not fit the race as well as a dedicated tinker class would.
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  9. #17049
    Quote Originally Posted by Le Conceptuel View Post
    Admittedly, it is somewhat baffling that the game was released without it. It definitely makes it difficult to roleplay gnomes and goblins effectively due to how fundamental an unplayable class is to their identity. While you can just take the engineering profession, it still will eternally play second fiddle to a class that will invariably not fit the race as well as a dedicated tinker class would.
    I'd say spellblades are also a problem but to a far lesser extent; none of the major elf npcs were spellblades (Kael'thas was depicted as a mage first). But tinkers should be resolved somehow. I once suggested that it could simply be done visually when we where talking about class skins (heck I could come out with ways to give mech/tinker elements to almost every class) by providing "glyphs", visually modifications that are made through engineering.

    A World Revamp expansion could be a way to do that, there are many hooks for such a class in a revamp. Avaloren could do it if they decided to give the civilizations there a steampunk theme which is always visually striking and would allow them to give completely different visuals for classic biome themes (steampunk + climate theme changes everything)

    Plus steampunk armor for all classes.
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  10. #17050
    I was just making my Draenei, and tbh, they oughta do another character model update soon. It's already been almost 10 years since WoD, which had the update. And WoD was 10 years since Vanilla. Looking at all the models, at least on the Alliance side, the human one looks so much more detailed than the rest. The Draenei face looks so much less detailed than the rest too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolly Roger View Post
    you have done the same thing in the past is the point

    werent you trying to push the "shadowlands" leak that had a ghostbuster class because obviously that was the only thing possible
    and not until the 11th hour do you ever change an opinion
    I wasn't "pushing" any leak. What happened is that that particular SL leak contained info about Tinkers doing "Ghostbusting" and I was laying out an argument of how that could be possible in order to fit the class into SL's thematic. This scenario seems plausible because a later leak stated that Tinkers were considered as a new class in SL but Blizzard just couldn't get them to fit the theme. If you remember, during the SL leak season, several Shadowlands leaks contained a Tinker class until around September/October, with the expansion being revealed in early November.

    as for pirates i wouldnt say those would be a main theme but sailing and visiting islands like telabim only to find its more than bananas and pygmys
    plus one of your favorite characters is still wondering around and had ties to such seafaring groups
    Yeah, I don't believe we'll see Telabim (sp?) or other south seas areas until Undermine, since those islands are in the vicinity of Kezan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santandame View Post
    The counter has been people calling out your lack of evidence and you presenting your head canon as such.
    We have Thrall on the BlizzCon key art a few months ago, and Infinite/Bronze drake temporal hijinks in 10.1.7. We also have hints from BFA and Shadowlands. A lightbound expansion also fits with a world revamp, Chris Metzen returning, 10th anniversary of WoD, 20th anniversary of WoW, and the Chinese predictor who I believe has been 100% accurate up to this point.

    It's also simply more believable as an expansion concept. It has clear villains, a clear plot, and clear possible features, such as Arakkoa and Ogres as the two new races. In comparison we have nebulous expansion concepts that really don't match any of the evidence at hand beyond some loose connections to current raids and plot lines that will no doubt be resolved by the end of the expansion.

    Is it 100% going to be the next expansion? No one is saying that. However given what we have, in my view it's by far the most likely.

  12. #17052
    The explicit tease of the Broken make me think that a Character Creation Screen rehaul is due. Because three Draenei options on the screen is to look crazy (and I think they are too different to be barber shop).

    Also, really hoping for new HD backgrounds for characters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Annihilas View Post
    This is completely ridiculous conversation guys... what evidence do most characters have in the beginning, that burning Teldrassil was even done on purpose
    Go read a good war and play BFA, the horde know she did it on purpose because a ton of soliders were there and heard her give the order, the alliance knows because Saurfang talks with Anduin about it and both Tyranda and Malf know he lead the charge so would have first hand info of what went down.
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  14. #17054
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    The explicit tease of the Broken make me think that a Character Creation Screen rehaul is due. Because three Draenei options on the screen is to look crazy (and I think they are too different to be barber shop).

    Also, really hoping for new HD backgrounds for characters.
    Evidently the draenei racial “Gift of the Naaru” even changes its visual (to fel/sargeri) based on the new skin color options - which feels super interesting. We’ve never seen anything like that before within a race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foreign Exchange Ztudent View Post
    Yeah, it is either Backside of Azeroth or Revamp in my view too.

    Honestly, both are exciting prospects that take me out of the darkness that is the "End of 3 Raid Tiers/x.3 Death"/"Night Elves getting exiled to Dragon Isles".

    Fundamentally, I cannot stress how much I am looking forward to see Opening Ceremony, Metzen, Keynotes and Development Panels after this nightmare ending of DF.
    Also when Metzen came back they said he would be working on WoW for a bit before moving on yo other projects. What expansion would metzen be invaluable for? A narrative world revamp. Its possible they contacted him about it a year or so ago abd he agreed to come back and to help rebuild Azeroth.

  16. #17056
    Quote Originally Posted by Annihilas View Post
    This is completely ridiculous conversation guys... what evidence do most characters have in the beginning, that burning Teldrassil was even done on purpose (It is a tree...), or part of any evil plan to cause mass death for the Jailer.
    Wow...putting wow back in WoW. Your poor attempt to clean the hands of Sylvanas and Horde collaboration is only equaled by the incredibly poor writing that has sadly become the rule for Blizz. I'd advocate that if nothing else the undead should exult in their evil impulses as a matter of pride. But Blizz has as usual, stupidly moved beyond that point in their usual lack of graceful storytelling so as to encourage everyone to forget all the loose ends that they refuse to tie up.

  17. #17057
    Quote Originally Posted by Villager720 View Post
    Evidently the draenei racial “Gift of the Naaru” even changes its visual (to fel/sargeri) based on the new skin color options - which feels super interesting. We’ve never seen anything like that before within a race.
    Yeah it does. I didn't know this either but just checked on my Draenei. Very small thing and it's not a spell I use a lot but a nice change to have!

  18. #17058
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadochi View Post
    Im back once again
    Now it's officially hype season.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    A World Revamp expansion could be a way to do that, there are many hooks for such a class in a revamp. Avaloren could do it if they decided to give the civilizations there a steampunk theme which is always visually striking and would allow them to give completely different visuals for classic biome themes (steampunk + climate theme changes everything)

    Plus steampunk armor for all classes.
    Not excessively innovative, but imagine because of the Well of Eternity or whatever the backside of Azeroth is kind of magic starved so the place developed more technologically. Mostly interesting for the novelty of styles and themes this could bring to WoW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashrana View Post
    So, what would be your reaction, if you found out, that come cata release first patch, blizzard were planning to kill everyone by sending a bear through the mail?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Villager720 View Post
    Evidently the draenei racial “Gift of the Naaru” even changes its visual (to fel/sargeri) based on the new skin color options - which feels super interesting. We’ve never seen anything like that before within a race.
    How could would it be to see changes like these based on race and stuff. Like for example Priests. I feel spell effects for Human and Night Elf priests should be different. Draenei too. They have different concepts of light in their minds. One is Holy Light. One is Elune. Another is Naaru.

  20. #17060
    Quote Originally Posted by Xilurm View Post
    How could would it be to see changes like these based on race and stuff. Like for example Priests. I feel spell effects for Human and Night Elf priests should be different. Draenei too. They have different concepts of light in their minds. One is Holy Light. One is Elune. Another is Naaru.
    I could see that being a big selling point in 11.0, similar to how the Talent and Profession revamps were big selling points in Dragonflight.
    Maybe just a few changes like different coloured effects for priests, or different tooltips for Tauren paladins, etc.
    The world revamp dream will never die!

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