1. #17441
    I'm currently mounted on my Wonderous Wavewhisker mount inside one of the Eco-Domes of the Netherstorm.

    Two things struck me:

    1. There's no flipping way this fish was made just to be a lil' pondy boi inside the Emerald Dream patch. It's so detailed. Animations, fx, textures are all amazing. Not only that, but that saddle just screams Azshara and Naga. I stand by my belief that it's a hint for 11.0.

    2. The Eco-Domes are freaking amazing, man. It's been years since I paid a visit and really took it all in.

    Here's just another crazy expansion idea:

    • Queen Azshara invades Azeroth. Her key to success lies in binding the Elemental Planes to her will.
    • Fire is already under her control, and the others are under attack or in the process of being subjugated.
    • She hides out in the domain of water, seeking some ancient artifact or power. PureWater™?
    • The Etherals come to our aid. Although some are siding with the Void, others choose to defend Azeroth. They erect great Eco-Domes to shield some of our sanctuaries.
    • Thrall does his thing, obviously.
    • We enter each Elemental Plane. They're zones, with dungeons and a raid in them. Way fleshed out since the last time we saw them. Not just FIRE, hot hot hot! The domain of air might have cool Arabic-looking villages. The domain of water might have the progenitors of all merpeople, the original Jinyu/Ankoan. Or, or, or. They might go the Emerald Dream route and have the Elemental Planes sort of materialise on Azeroth, moreso than they did in Cataclysm. So there might be a zone near Uldum for example, that you may enter.
    • If we lose, Azeroth becomes a Void Lord or something. If we win, the world is revamped.
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  2. #17442
    Quote Originally Posted by Eeram View Post
    Good one. While i do hope thrall is a focal point i hope its more so an Exploration thrall leading us then a Elements are calling us thrall
    Also when did they say there was nothing on the other side of azeroth?
    We saw it on the Vindicaar. Also I saw a tweet I need to look it up again.

  3. #17443
    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    Don’t they literally have a thunder dome?
    You’re right they do.

    I can see where Farhad is coming from however. In a revamp hopefully Tanaris will lean more not being a Max Max/Mean Streets of Gadgetztan style zone as opposed to what it is now; which is a zone with a pretty poor identity as the zones threats are a mishmash of pirates, sand trolls, ogres and qiraji.

    From an atmosphere perspective, Tanaris is one of my favourites. But it’s easily one of the worst zones in game for a cohesive story.

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    Did anything come of that eco-dome model? It was speculated to be part of the Eredar customization quests, but it wasn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santandame View Post
    You’re right they do.

    I can see where Farhad is coming from however. In a revamp hopefully Tanaris will lean more not being a Max Max/Mean Streets of Gadgetztan style zone as opposed to what it is now; which is a zone with a pretty poor identity as the zones threats are a mishmash of pirates, sand trolls, ogres and qiraji.

    From an atmosphere perspective, Tanaris is one of my favourites. But it’s easily one of the worst zones in game for a cohesive story.
    I mean, it's a desert. Turning it into mad-max will make it more interesting, but I think the classic version sells it's theme very well: A desert with not much going on
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  5. #17445
    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
    I mean, the city has the "Thunderdrome", a 1:1 reference to Mad Max's Thunderdome as its central feature, complete with movie referencing NPCs. In Legion they even renamed the Inn to "The Road Warrior". I'm not even saying the set must be nothing, but there's nothing particularly new about the aesthetic of it, Tanaris has always been Desert stuff + Goblin stuff.

    I'd actually expect a revamp to lean away from the mad max vibe because one would assume they'd bring Gadgetzan closer to its Hearthstone look and away from scavenger-waste-goblin-city.
    If they do expand Gadgetztan to reflect is Hearthstone look, as well as taking up a good chunk of the zone - then a wastewander/Mad Max themed district could be fun. Make the Thunderdome a lot bigger and more epic too.

    Or repurpose Zul’farrak from a troll city into a scavenger city.
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  6. #17446
    Quote Originally Posted by micwini View Post
    Did anything come of that eco-dome model? It was speculated to be part of the Eredar customization quests, but it wasn't.

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    I mean, it's a desert. Turning it into mad-max will make it more interesting, but I think the classic version sells it's theme very well: A desert with not much going on
    It always gave me the same vibe as the Si Wong desert in Avatar: the Last Airbender, but yeah Tanaris is pretty cool although the story could use some update! We deserve a better Gadgetzan!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grazrug View Post
    We saw it on the Vindicaar. Also I saw a tweet I need to look it up again.
    If you think a skybox is gonna keep them from popping a new landmass there, you haven't exactly been paying attention to the last 19 years of wow development.


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  8. #17448
    Quote Originally Posted by Worldshaper View Post
    *snip*[*]If we lose, Azeroth becomes a Void Lord or something. If we win, the world is revamped.[/LIST]
    I don't know about others but Dragonflight is elemental enough for me. The upcoming 10.2 also features alot of fire people/places/things.

    I do like Azshara coming back though. I think Azshara's goal will be to awaken Azeroth (the Titan) and Freaky Friday swap minds or just like absorb her power. Though I think her trying to swap into a titan's body from her N'Zoth twisted form would be more interesting. Plus they could have the Azeroth titan interacting with everyone in Azshara's body.

  9. #17449
    Dragon Isles also isnt on the Vindicaar globe. Neither are Kul Tiras and Zandalar
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    Quote Originally Posted by micwini View Post
    Dragon Isles also isnt on the Vindicaar globe. Neither are Kul Tiras and Zandalar
    Or eversong. (Funnily enough, Azure and Bloodmyst are)
    Or Pandaria.
    Or Teldrassil.

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  11. #17451
    Teldrassil is on it (covered by clouds, look closely)
    I was there today and Pandaria is actually on there, though you have to break your neck to peak down to be able to see it.
    Quelthalas is actually not on there WTF.
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  12. #17452
    The map made me wonder, has anyone suggested a pre-Sundering set expansion? Whatever time travel or such shenanigans but the new continent would actually be the old Kailmdor.


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    Pretty sure the whole Nightsquall thing is the first time they have officially referenced "the backside or Azeroth" in game. They've also already said in game maps will never hinder them from adding new continents.
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  14. #17454
    Quote Originally Posted by ChairmanKaga View Post
    The map made me wonder, has anyone suggested a pre-Sundering set expansion? Whatever time travel or such shenanigans but the new continent would actually be the old Kailmdor.

    During Dragonflight launch I was convinced the final patch would be Infinites with Murozond as the final boss. That during the boss fight he would transport us to a different time period with each phase. I had the idea that he final phase would be pre-sundering Kalimdor and Azshara would jump through to reclaim the “true throne of power” that being her old empire armed with the knowledge she has of the future. Bingo, we’d get an Ancient Kalimdor expansion.

    Sadly I don’t think it’s ever a possibility anymore.

  15. #17455
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    Which one?
    When it was announced, I swear there was an FAQ added and one of the questions was about Allied Races. They said currently no plans, but the idea wasn't abandoned. It seemed like it was unprompted. I'll see if I can find it later on, unless I imagined it in a fever dream.

  16. #17456
    Quote Originally Posted by ChairmanKaga View Post
    I don't know about others but Dragonflight is elemental enough for me. The upcoming 10.2 also features alot of fire people/places/things.

    I do like Azshara coming back though. I think Azshara's goal will be to awaken Azeroth (the Titan) and Freaky Friday swap minds or just like absorb her power. Though I think her trying to swap into a titan's body from her N'Zoth twisted form would be more interesting. Plus they could have the Azeroth titan interacting with everyone in Azshara's body.
    It's elemental all right. Just as WoD had a lot of Fel stuff before Legion, and BfA had a bunch of Death stuff before Shadowlands.

    Interesting idea about the body/mind swap!

    Quote Originally Posted by ChairmanKaga View Post
    The map made me wonder, has anyone suggested a pre-Sundering set expansion? Whatever time travel or such shenanigans but the new continent would actually be the old Kailmdor.
    I've suggested Ancient Kalimdor as one possibility a couple of times. I think it'd be interesting to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChairmanKaga View Post
    The map made me wonder, has anyone suggested a pre-Sundering set expansion? Whatever time travel or such shenanigans but the new continent would actually be the old Kailmdor.
    Yes it has been discussed a few times, especially now with the return of azshara on the horizon. I think the problem usually was that it was a) a timetravel expansion and people where unsure if blizz would try that again and b) there have been very few hints or reasons why we would go back there.

    I think it would be a great idea, but ancient kalimdor would be massive. And i hate to say it, but a world revamp would be far more likely than ancient kalimdor.

  18. #17458
    Just read the interview

    They do realize they were describing previous expansion raid bosses right?? Like I enjoy the serpent boss but it sounds like a BfA encounter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Worldshaper View Post
    It's elemental all right. Just as WoD had a lot of Fel stuff before Legion, and BfA had a bunch of Death stuff before Shadowlands.

    Interesting idea about the body/mind swap!



    I've suggested Ancient Kalimdor as one possibility a couple of times. I think it'd be interesting to see.
    11.0 is definitely elemental
    Thrall is the world shaman
    We just killed the fire lord

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revamp Man View Post
    We just killed the fire lord
    He's just back in the firelands.

    Well, provided Blizzard remembers that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Revamp Man View Post
    Just read the interview

    They do realize they were describing previous expansion raid bosses right?? Like I enjoy the serpent boss but it sounds like a BfA encounter

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    11.0 is definitely elemental
    Thrall is the world shaman
    We just killed the fire lord
    I think it would be redundant with the primalists, but I agree that the elements will play an important part in the upcoming expansion - if it's a revamp. Each time the elements were involved and we had to slay an elemental lord, we discovered a new world. Vanilla had us "kill" Ragnaros and Cata had us kill Al'akir and Ragnaros.

    I also believe we might have a pause with the current plot, and they'll probably reintroduce some new villains for us to worry about. After all, outside of Denathrius nobody is threatening us in the Shadowlands. The undead who were a big deal in vanilla (covering 5 zones and half the major dungeons) no longer seems to be a threat.

    Demons who also were quite in number are mostly gone and needs a reason or new leadership to corrupt Azeroth. Having multiple demonic overlords on Azeroth trying to claim territories could be great.

    Old gods and Twilight Hammer really became relevant in Cataclysm, but they were a big enough danger for the world back in Vanilla. We know about the void lords, but it seems that outside of the Harbringer, they're still far from us.

    What I try to say is that the world needs new threats, or need to refresh some of those we already know. If Yrel comes to Azeroth, we need to know how and why. They are setting up for a big titan threat too. Could be cool to see how it impacts some culture like dwarves who had one of their leader becoming a servant of Azeroth (or at least that's what we were told.)

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