1. #18841
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Already acknowledged. Here's the point; Blizzard has acknowledged that players didn't like/were burned out on Vashj'ir, which is part of the reason they scrapped Abyssal Maw in Cataclysm. On top of this, their overall treatment of Azshara and Nazjatar in BFA point towards them having a reluctance to go all in on an underwater-themed expansion. Pair that hunch with Blizzard themselves saying that they actively avoid expansion concepts where the themes cause the visuals to be too "samey" and you have a scenario where Azshara and the Naga coming back (again) to be rather unlikely.

    That's not even including the issue of us beating her and her puppet master a mere 3.5 years ago.
    The only thing we did to Azshara was mess up her plan to kill N'zoth. Seems somebody wasn't paying attention to the story and is now trying to make predictions based on that ignorance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terremer View Post


    one of the pictures, this seems AI generated

    https://x.com/wowexdev/status/1704396587613442160?s=20

    ???

    I do wonder who/what this could be though. Void Dreadlord?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightshade711 View Post
    Speaking of Scaleface…
    Nobody’s been looking at his Twitter profile recently.

    https://twitter.com/wowexdev
    His Twitter PFP looks like it could be promo art, and in earlier posts it looks like some zone screenshots.
    I don't think that's the same person as Scaleface.

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    If the next expac is all random void stuff an no revamp at all its gonna be a shitshow, atleast with undermine naga south seas and or old god insectoid stuff its recognisable to the IP

    Also the revamp idea has gotten more steam then ever with lots of wow media people speculating on it, also theres basically no recognisable landmasses to go to anymore

    Hoping that twitter account is posting fake stuff which it probably is, i do remember though thinking dracthyr were fake cause of how ugly they were lol
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  5. #18845
    Quote Originally Posted by Nightshade711 View Post
    I do wonder who/what this could be though. Void Dreadlord?
    That's a pretty cool design, unsure if it's fake.

    All the zone pictures look like Nathreza/K'aresh which would be a definite WoW killer. I feel like I've seen them before though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    That's a pretty cool design, unsure if it's fake.

    All the zone pictures look like Nathreza/K'aresh which would be a definite WoW killer. I feel like I've seen them before though.
    Why would Karesh or nath be wow killers???

    Outland was freaking awesome

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santandame View Post
    Yet you’re advocating for Yrel, X’era and Gallywix as end of expansion bosses.

    Do you want to fight newly introduced characters or “old” ones?
    Well yes because they're former allies and have never been raid-level antagonists before. It's something new. We've already beaten Azshara on her home turf, then we went on to body her master. It's crazy that people want to do it again because of some story quirk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Well Done Steak View Post
    Why would Karesh or nath be wow killers???

    Outland was freaking awesome
    Because Shadowlands showed that people are tired of shadow/void/undead stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Because Shadowlands showed that people are tired of shadow/void/undead stuff.
    Shadowlands has nothing to do with the void.
    And no one seemed to complain about Abberus’ void stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    The only thing we did to Azshara was mess up her plan to kill N'zoth. Seems somebody wasn't paying attention to the story and is now trying to make predictions based on that ignorance.
    So the argument is that THIS time she'll be playing for keeps? While we're still fighting the same minions, and dealing with the same spells, using the same assets from BFA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightshade711 View Post
    Shadowlands has nothing to do with the void.
    For most players Shadow magic is just shadow magic.

    And no one seemed to complain about Abberus’ void stuff.
    Because it was inside a decidedly dragon expansion. People don't mind anything in small doses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Well Done Steak View Post
    Why would Karesh or nath be wow killers???

    Outland was freaking awesome
    Because nobody except lore nerds like us gives a shit about Karesh, especially since the revamp hype is higher than ever rn (wether thats the fault of Blizz or the players themselves is a different question).
    It wouldnt be a "killer" but it would definitely be a disappointment to a lot of people.
    Also, it would once again go pretty far into the whole cosmic stuff, and the last time that happened, we got SL, which almost everyone agreedupon that it didnt really feel like warcraft anymore. You think people will be up and hyped after that?
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    From the space that is everywhere and nowhere, the crooked shitposter feasts on memes.

    He has no eyes to see, but he dreams of infinite memeing and trolling.

  11. #18851
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Well yes because they're former allies and have never been raid-level antagonists before. It's something new. We've already beaten Azshara on her home turf, then we went on to body her master. It's crazy that people want to do it again because of some story quirk.

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    Because Shadowlands showed that people are tired of shadow/void/undead stuff.
    The issue with SL was the shit story. World wise, I think the issue was how all the zones were their own little realms. Made traveling a bitch and felt too disconnected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Houle View Post
    Because nobody except lore nerds like us gives a shit about Karesh, especially since the revamp hype is higher than ever rn (wether thats the fault of Blizz or the players themselves is a different question). Its not a "killer" but it would definitely be a disappointment to a lot of people.
    If that was the case then MoP would have been DoA.

    People will care if they do karesh justice, and the art team usually does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    That's a pretty cool design, unsure if it's fake.

    All the zone pictures look like Nathreza/K'aresh which would be a definite WoW killer. I feel like I've seen them before though.
    I personally disagree with the sentiment, I don’t think setting alone would make/break the game.
    Shadowlands would’ve done great in the same setting if it had a halfway decent story and didn’t have the myriad of gameplay issues.

    Though the post that followed those images did say they “looked like island expeditions” so maybe they’re not fully fledged zones.
    Could be something akin to the legion invasion points/time rifts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Well Done Steak View Post
    The issue with SL was the shit story. World wise, I think the issue was how all the zones were their own little realms.
    The problem is that SL came after N'Zoth patch, so for players it was just an extension of more shadow stuff. Some people are obsessed with shadow-based content, but not every player wants a steady diet of shadow over and over again. Doing an entire shadow/void expansion after 8.3, Shadowlands, and the bit of void we got in Aberrus would be a mistake. It's almost becoming a crutch for Blizzard and it's time to bring some new aligned villains into the equation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Well Done Steak View Post
    If that was the case then MoP would have been DoA.

    People will care if they do karesh justice, and the art team usually does.
    MoP wasn't DoA because it was something fresh after TBC, WotLK, and Cataclysm. At the time nerds bristled at it, but now in retrospect its considered one of the best expansions Blizzard has ever done.

    Why? Because it was something different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    For most players Shadow magic is just shadow magic.
    Most players aren’t blind and can tell that this:


    Is different from this:

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    In all honestly, I don't care on the conceptual state of the expansion moreso than the business decisions coming down the pipeline.

    I can accept any concept if there is no bad business decision announcements during Blizzcon but its going to be a lot harder if the business decisions surrounding WoW Retail after Opening Ceremony are abysmal and the concept is not resonant with the audience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightshade711 View Post
    Most players aren’t blind and can tell that this:
    Is different from this:
    Nice try;



    That pic from 8.3 resembles the bottom image, and if you ask a casual player what recent expansion that comes from, they'll more than likely say Shadowlands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    Wonder where the "Veilstrider" FOS for Dragonflight is?

    And what the title will be?
    I mean, it's got to be Dragonrider, right? That's sort of our expansion title and I don't believe we've been given the ability to earn that yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post



    That pic from 8.3 resembles the bottom image, and if you ask a casual player what recent expansion that comes from, they'll more than likely say Shadowlands.
    It really doesn’t look like anything Shadowlands. You’re just stretching.

    But regardless it’s looking like the void is happening after all. Thankfully it’s not a cringe Yrel LiGhT BaD expansion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightshade711 View Post
    It really doesn’t look like anything Shadowlands.
    You’re just stretching. But regardless it’s looking like the void is happening after all.
    Thankfully it’s not a cringe Yrel LiGhT BaD expansion.
    We'll see. In the end, it would be a HUGE mistake if they did a void expansion.

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    It was very hard to see Iridikron's speech with the activation of the Harbinger not being the next expansion and setting off the next (at least) 2 expansions with the Megadungeon speech.

    Danuser isn't going to relinquish anything. Metzen most likely is Classic affliated than anything to do with retail since its Danusers ship.
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