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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlamin View Post
    https://twitter.com/Warcraft/status/1706715323867541734

    Guess he's not "just working on Classic" after all.
    What a time to be alive man.


    That said, i hope this was voluntary and he wasn't just pressured into it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlamin View Post
    https://twitter.com/Warcraft/status/1706715323867541734

    Guess he's not "just working on Classic" after all.
    said what "we've" been working on, so i guess he's had a substantial hand in the development for the expansion

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    Is he replacing anybody that we know of as Executive Creative Producer, or is it just a fancy "Arch Lore Dude" title they invented?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    What a time to be alive man.


    That said, i hope this was voluntary and he wasn't just pressured into it.
    I suspect the startup didn't go so well? A man's gotta eat. Or maybe he just missed his baby.

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    They are all in on this boom or bust PR strategy.
    I no longer reply to quotations beyond if you're asking a genuine question or have a non-confrontational stance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImTheMizAwesome View Post
    I don't really follow any of these numbers or retention stuff, but monthly sub is connected with classic so how they actually count this now?
    I don't think it has huge impact on subs beside 2nd half of 2019. Just compare number and population of servers, of course counting connected servers as one.

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    Green Jesus's remarriage confirmed.
    Dickmann's Law: As a discussion on the Lore forums becomes longer, the probability of the topic derailing to become about Sylvanas approaches 1.

    Tinkers will be the next Class confirmed.

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    Buccaneers of the Void Caves is basically confirmed by now.

    Dev says it's an exciting time to be a WOW fan https://x.com/kirbyau/status/1706718538411786335?s=46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Worldshaper View Post
    Is he replacing anybody that we know of as Executive Creative Producer, or is it just a fancy "Arch Lore Dude" title they invented
    im pretty sure ion is the game director and this is just a new role they invented. Now that isnt to say its like a "fake job", i think they just want Metzen to be more involved in the lore and worldbuilding and aesthetic, rather than systems and such. Just my 2 cents on it

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    Metzen on stage could sell even "Banana Time" expansion.

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    damn metzen is even more back and new allied race just got leaked

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    Whats the difference between 'lead narrative designer (Danuser)' and 'Executive Creative Director (Metzen)'?

    Does that imply that Metzen would have a say or even the final say in story elements over Danuser? Because the tweet that they dropped seems to say that it's a world building/lore thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Worldshaper View Post
    I seriously could never have foreseen this timeline.

    It just feels so weird and great to have Metzen back, and in such a major capacity. The hero of my tweens.
    Same, but in retrospect it should have been obvious. Classic has enough directors already & they said they were looking for a head narrative director for Warcraft right before he announced he was returning. "Head Creative Director" for Metzen makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auxis View Post
    Whats the difference between 'lead narrative designer (Danuser)' and 'Executive Creative Director (Metzen)'?

    Does that imply that Metzen would have a say or even the final say in story elements over Danuser? Because the tweet that they dropped seems to say that it's a world building/lore thing.
    It means he's in a marketing role that'll let people cope that there's a major creative difference. And that Blizzard have a hype man who isn't severely socially handicapped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Auxis View Post
    Whats the difference between 'lead narrative designer (Danuser)' and 'Executive Creative Director (Metzen)'?

    Does that imply that Metzen would have a say or even the final say in story elements over Danuser? Because the tweet that they dropped seems to say that it's a world building/lore thing.
    Metzen's title is for the Warcraft franchise, Danuser's is for World of Warcraft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auxis View Post
    Whats the difference between 'lead narrative designer (Danuser)' and 'Executive Creative Director (Metzen)'?

    Does that imply that Metzen would have a say or even the final say in story elements over Danuser? Because the tweet that they dropped seems to say that it's a world building/lore thing.
    I also think a major difference is the fact that Metzen is involved with the story aspects of the entire franchise, while Danuser is just on WoW?

    So for example if they're making an RPG, or WoW 2, Metzen is also a producer on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auxis View Post
    Whats the difference between 'lead narrative designer (Danuser)' and 'Executive Creative Director (Metzen)'?

    Does that imply that Metzen would have a say or even the final say in story elements over Danuser? Because the tweet that they dropped seems to say that it's a world building/lore thing.
    is Danuser just Lead Narrative Designer of WoW? Because Metzen is Executive Creative Director of the Warcraft universe. So that means retail AND classic WoW and potentially other non-WoW Warcraft things. Like WC4?

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    Yeah it does say Warcraft. But it says he's currently working on World of Warcraft. ;thinking emoji;
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    Quote Originally Posted by Auxis View Post
    Whats the difference between 'lead narrative designer (Danuser)' and 'Executive Creative Director (Metzen)'?

    Does that imply that Metzen would have a say or even the final say in story elements over Danuser? Because the tweet that they dropped seems to say that it's a world building/lore thing.
    Danuser was only credited as Lead Narrative Designer by default after all those scandal-related firings. Danuser's job was often referred to as "loremaster" but for the most part the Game Directors were taking turns being in control of the story. Since Danuser doesn't have any formal writing credits, they were actively looking for a new "Head" Narrative Director for over a year. While Ion actively avoided creative responsibility, while he focuses on game mechanics.

    Basically Ion Hazzikostas & Metzen will be the two pillars of the game. With Ion handling the programming & game mechanics side, while Chris is in charge of the Art & Storytelling.

    Side Note: That news that Microsoft announced they need to focus more as "games as a service" than "AAA releases" combined with comments about "Wanting everyone to play world of warcraft" strongly suggests WoW on Gamepass: Who wants to bet the 9.99 gamepass subscription will be the same as the 14.99 WoW subscription, but the gamepass version won't include those free 500 traders tokens?
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    Well yeah, what else would he be working on if not wow?
    Classic got all its lore covered, the rts series is no longer a thing and i very much doubt he'll spent much time with the Hearthstone and Rumble teams.

    "Warcraft" and "World of Warcraft" are interchangable until they release more titles within the franchise.


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