Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Aeluron Lightsong]

They should do WoW 2 with Unreal engine 5.1, cartoon style like now is shit. Mostly singelplayer so all can play.

*Takes a deep breath* No. Cartoony artstyle is better then photo realism.

[Cheezits]

They should do WoW 2 with Unreal engine 5.1, cartoon style like now is shit. Mostly singelplayer so all can play.

This expansion is mostly singleplayer.

[Raetary]

They should do WoW 2 with Unreal engine 5.1, cartoon style like now is shit.

Ah, the cartoony art style that has kept up perfectly well for the last 2 decades and continues to do so is shit, but some crappy realistic style that is outdated within like a year, maybe 2, isn't?

[Makorus]

They will never make a WoW 2.

Do you genuinely think people are gonna play a game without all their transmogs, mounts, achievements, characters etc.?

Sequels to MMOs never work and might as well be new IPs.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Maybe, maybe not. I just know slapping Unreal onto a game is not nearly as simple as the internet thinks it is.

[Sondrelk]

Maybe, maybe not. I just know slapping Unreal onto a game is not nearly as simple as the internet thinks it is.

Well funded games have taken massive blows froma sudden shift to Unreal engine during development. It's honestly quite astounding that some players think that it's easy to somehow port the entirety of WoW into a new engine. Do people really think it's just a question of pushing a button and changing all mentions of the engine into Unreal engine in the code?

[Kiivar86]

They should do WoW 2 with Unreal engine 5.1, cartoon style like now is shit. Mostly singelplayer so all can play.

Horrible idea.

For one, the cartoony style ages far, far better than lifelike.

Making a full blown sequel also is a massive risk. The sequel can flop, and in the process kill the original too. Or at the least weaken it further. For a good example, take a look at Everquest. Everquest was the previous king of MMOs. And they released a sequel, Everquest 2, on November 9th, 2004. The resulting split, among other things, weakened it enough for an upstart MMO launching mere weeks later to take the stage.

An upstart MMO named WoW.

Some MMO sequels have worked, though not without considerable work, like FFXIV. But those are pretty rare. The MMO landscape is also massively different now. When MMOs were still the hot thing, maybe it could've worked. Now? No.

[ChairmanKaga]

They should do WoW 2 with Unreal engine 5.1, cartoon style like now is shit. Mostly singelplayer so all can play.

barf. One of the only things that keeps me playing is the art style instead of a muddy realism brown/grey of so many modern titles.

[Revamp Man]

I wonder if all the fire damage procs work with the new Ret paladin talent that increases Fire damage dealt by 10%. I have the belt and I lucked into one of the rings.

possibly
honestly i know there will be broken combos early and maybe two weeks later half will be addressed

[Dracullus]

OK FWIW things are likely ramping up, based on Twitter.

MRGM tweeted the eyes emoji last night, as did Towellie. Taliesin & Evitel also responded to MRGM with "Not doing anything".

Based on the fact that both MRGM and T&E were involved in a European event at a castle recently, and Towellie is obviously also in the know, it is probably safe to assume there will be some cool news this week (or at the latest next week, in case it's something they're all being informed about or recording together this week).

My guess is on 10.1 information dump, since that PTR is likely to go up any week now once 10.0.7 is released next week.

I doubt that, from what I gathered on Towellie stream it's something more involving. Imo it's either 10.0.7 surprise drop (very unlikely, although EU has very suspicious two long maintenances this week) or some event connected to WoW. Or maybe you are partially right and it will be 10.1 reveal + some event for stream.

[Nathanyel]

With how the PTR is structured right now, we could have a 10.1 PTR while the 10.0.7 PTR is still running as well.

[Black Rider]

OK FWIW things are likely ramping up, based on Twitter.

MRGM tweeted the eyes emoji last night, as did Towellie. Taliesin & Evitel also responded to MRGM with "Not doing anything".

Based on the fact that both MRGM and T&E were involved in a European event at a castle recently, and Towellie is obviously also in the know, it is probably safe to assume there will be some cool news this week (or at the latest next week, in case it's something they're all being informed about or recording together this week).

My guess is on 10.1 information dump, since that PTR is likely to go up any week now once 10.0.7 is released next week.

I don't think so.
https://twitter.com/MrGMYT/status/1633019144487460864

[crusadernero]

Its probably something huge, but then again, its most likely nothing.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

Probably another watch streamer x hours and get this type of thing.

[Val the Moofia Boss]

They should do WoW 2 with Unreal engine 5.1, cartoon style like now is shit. Mostly singelplayer so all can play.

I prefer the stylized look WoW. I prefer stylized aesthetics in general. I generally dislike photorealistic games, particularly Western AAA games where the devs go out of their way to make the characters look as unattractive as possible.

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They will never make a WoW 2.

Do you genuinely think people are gonna play a game without all their transmogs, mounts, achievements, characters etc.?

Sequels to MMOs never work and might as well be new IPs.

The only way I could see a WoW 2 working would be for it to be a new engine so you could get stuff like action combat, physics, etc, but old assets carry over. You can still wear the same transmog and pepe on your head and totems on your back and ride the same mount you've been riding. So it'd be more of a revamp rather than a totally new game. The big problem with this is that old content - questlines and raids - would not be able to be carried over, since it would be impractical to go through the game and update all the mobs and raids to account for a new combat system, so in WoW 2 you would only have access to content made after the switch over.

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Anyone who reads the books

What happened with the old god heart after garrosh?

I read War Crimes and what happened to the Heart was never mentioned. Presumably it began decomposing, was burned, and the ashes either buried or dumped into the ocean, or maybe sealed away in a vault in Dalaran or back into the Vale.

[Truthseeker11]

[QUOTE=Val the Moofia Boss;54060395]I prefer the stylized look WoW. I prefer stylized aesthetics in general. I generally dislike photorealistic games, particularly Western AAA games where the devs go out of their way to make the characters look as unattractive as possible.

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The only way I could see a WoW 2 working would be for it to be a new engine so you could get stuff like action combat, physics, etc, but old assets carry over. You can still wear the same transmog and pepe on your head and totems on your back and ride the same mount you've been riding. So it'd be more of a revamp rather than a totally new game. The big problem with this is that old content - questlines and raids - would not be able to be carried over, since it would be impractical to go through the game and update all the mobs and raids to account for a new combat system, so in WoW 2 you would only have access to content made after the switch over.

This is the issue when trying to create a new and potentially better game.
It is not a new WOW expansion, it is a NEW wow game people want.
Ergo if you want to keep your progress on your old game, you should play WOW 1 - with all the expansions.. Not have all your progress on WOW 2 - a totally new game, that many people want.

[Zardas]

a totally new game, that many people want.

Got some source for that ?

[MrGMYT]

my ears are burning

[Teriz]

I hope in 11.0 they add Tinker, and it'll be the 2nd Druid ie. all 4 specs. The suit-up Ironman tank, dual-pistols ranged dps, chainsaws+electric shockers melee dps, potion-grenade healer.

Next class won't be until 12.0 at the earliest. Blizzard could even do something like class skins or new specs to push back a new class even further. While the Tinker/Mechanic is an inevitable future class, it could be years before it becomes playable.

[Cheezits]

my ears are burning

Out of embarrassment or what? Did content creators think it was coming this week?