Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Darkarath]

We have a roadmap. If there was going to be some unannounced feature on these patches, they would have tried to create some hype by having some mystery item on the roadmap.

We will have system updates in DF. Honestly I would be shocked if we do not get a new / revamped system. It does not have to be something big, but for example we already got the Trading Post, and in that line I am pretty sure that we will see some of the following changes:

- Mythic + will get big adjustments IMO.
- Secondary professions will probably get some love and we might get archeology as a revamped evergreen system.
- For sure they will do something with Timewalking. This is a must. And no, I am not talking about adding BfA timewalking, which will of course happen in this expansion. I think that the system will be revamped in some way.
- They are introducing a kind of solo dungeon in 10.0.7 and that might be a test for another evergreen system coming later in DF.
- PvP needs something new, and I think that we will be getting it in this expansion. I am not talking about a new BG or arena but a new kind of PvP activity.
- Finally we could also include here things like cross-faction guilds. We already know that they are doing it. But I do not think of it as a new game system.

[Nymrohd]

We will have system updates in DF. Honestly I would be shocked if we do not get a new / revamped system. It does not have to be something big, but for example we already got the Trading Post, and in that line I am pretty sure that we will see some of the following changes:

- Mythic + will get big adjustments IMO.
- Secondary professions will probably get some love and we might get archeology as a revamped evergreen system.
- For sure they will do something with Timewalking. This is a must. And no, I am not talking about adding BfA timewalking, which will of course happen in this expansion. I think that the system will be revamped in some way.
- They are introducing a kind of solo dungeon in 10.0.7 and that might be a test for another evergreen system coming later in DF.
- PvP needs something new, and I think that we will be getting it in this expansion. I am not talking about a new BG or arena but a new kind of PvP activity.
- Finally we could also include here things like cross-faction guilds. We already know that they are doing it. But I do not think of it as a new game system.

I mean, the "solo dungeon" is something you can easily check out on the PTR. It doesn't seem to have any difficulty to it; it's just multiple rooms with very basic puzzles that don't actually require any thought. It isn't Torghast, Visions or Islands.

[Zardas]

A video / stream with what is coming in 10.1 makes sense IMO. I think that WoW needs a little bit of hype. Hell, I love the game and I love DF but I have not log in in the past two weeks. As I have stated before, DF needs something big, and 10.1 has to be one if not the best patch in WoW's history to retain current players and keep bringing back older ones (and hopefully new ones).

Replace 10.1 and DF by any other patch and expansion name, and you can find this message on mmoc.

[Darkarath]

I mean, the "solo dungeon" is something you can easily check out on the PTR. It doesn't seem to have any difficulty to it; it's just multiple rooms with very basic puzzles that don't actually require any thought. It isn't Torghast, Visions or Islands.

Yes, I am aware that is not something amazing, yet it could still be a sign for things to come.

Replace 10.1 and DF by any other patch and expansion name, and you can find this message on mmoc.

You are probably right, yet WoW is not in the same situation as before. Clearly DF has not work as good as they were expecting. WoW is not the only game out there and a lot of people have not returned to play this expansion. They need to play their cards very well if they want to keep WoW as a very successful game.

[Kiivar86]

well i ask because the naga book mentions a dark heart left broken
Xal wanted to absorb power from followers of the old gods imagine if she got her hand on the heart of one

True. I do think Y'Shaarj's heart is as gone as it can be, but as we've seen with Old God and Old God-related things, they don't tend to stay dead (as they like to say, they are outside the cycle).

[Nathanyel]

I want account wide mage tower artifact skins, skin for winning 10 rated battlegrounds to be specific, rest is trivial. Or better, add option to do it through solo que arenas.

That this is being implemented for the Balance of Power row is a good sign.

[Dracullus]

That this is being implemented for the Balance of Power row is a good sign.

That gave me hope in the first place. In general its refreshing they are fixing bad choices from old expacs that affect only collectors.

[Makabreska]

10.1 preview is up!

https://www.wowhead.com/news/dragonf...evealed-331716

Cross faction guilds!

[Gurahk]

So the first major patch seems to focus on Fyrakk instead of Iridikiron like people here speculated. We might really get Iridikiron as the final boss of the expansion.

[Cheezits]

Not really feeling the aesthetics of the cavern.

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So the first major patch seems to focus on Fyrakk instead of Iridikiron like people here speculated. We might really get Iridikiron as the final boss of the expansion.

Yeah, I think a frozen island with the Ice One and then an Old God/Timetravel? area with Iridikron is likely. Kind of unexpected that Underground =/= Earth Dragon.

[Makabreska]

They said it can't be done!

"Cross-faction guilds will be available at launch"
"Players will be able to use Dragonriding in Zaralek Cavern right away"

[infinitemeridian]

They really need to go back to the drawing board with tier designs, these ain't it chief. Just give us sets that look like our classes, the theming around the raid is a bit too much.

[Gurahk]

They really need to go back to the drawing board with tier designs, these ain't it chief. Just give us sets that look like our classes, the theming around the raid is a bit too much.

These aren't the tier sets. According to a youtuber the class sets look more class-themed this time around.

[Cheezits]

Black Dragons and Blue Dragons (subplot) only for this patch, I think this lines up with an Ice/Blue patch next and then Bronze at the end.

[Makabreska]

They really need to go back to the drawing board with tier designs, these ain't it chief. Just give us sets that look like our classes, the theming around the raid is a bit too much.

They have been theming them based on raids since at least WotLK. Why is it suddenly a problem?

[Cheezits]

Steve seems to be teasing Worgen tails in the group interview...

Steve: I don't know what you're talking about. Worgen and tails make no sense to me.

[infinitemeridian]

They have been theming them based on raids since at least WotLK. Why is it suddenly a problem?

Not in the way that they're theming them like Sepulcher and Vault.

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These aren't the tier sets. According to a youtuber the class sets look more class-themed this time around.

Good to know!

[Sondrelk]

They have been theming them based on raids since at least WotLK. Why is it suddenly a problem?

I guess because they didn't in Legion, which had a whole lineup of amazing sets.

Regardless i think the sets would have worked even if they all had the red, black, and gold dragon themed appearance. Looks more visually interesting than the stony appearance of the Vault sets.
That being said i do like the sound of more class themed appearances. Even if that will likely just mean more skulls for my Death Knight.

[Kiivar86]

There's a new cloud serpent-inspired drake coming, as well as new glyphs to learn and new races to tame.

I remember some folks here freaking out about that one cloud serpent like mount being in files but not being used. As I and others said, it would surely come in a patch.

Lo and behold.

Anyway nice to have an underground zone again.

[Sondrelk]

Not really feeling the aesthetics of the cavern.

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Yeah, I think a frozen island with the Ice One and then an Old God/Timetravel? area with Iridikron is likely. Kind of unexpected that Underground =/= Earth Dragon.

Have to agree on the caverns. Not really feeling the look of them based on the concept art. Though i will withold my full judgment until I see it modelled in-game. My hope is for something more like Wailing caverns as opposed to Deepholm.

Regardless it's only for one patch. I'll live. Not to mention it sounds like the zones we have now will still be used, so it's not like we are stuck in the caverns like we were for the Shadowlands.