Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Polybius]

It's possible. It would certainly fit the idea of "far away" from a lore standpoint and "What's underneath Bael Modan" has been a thread since the very beginning. The fissure may just be a physical incarnation of the Rift of Aln. The only real thing that makes me doubt this is the Earthen were around in ancient Kalimdor and helped in the War of the Ancients.

But there weren't really any Khazs and such. The Earthen lived in Titan facilities like Uldamon.

Worth mentioning, Uldaz has not been used and Tyr’s weapon in the megadungeon has text for it. Maybe we’re going there sooner, in a prepatch.

[Kiria]

I dunno, for me Jinyu as a race would be one of the most boring choices after dracthyr, but anything can happen, everyone has different favorites.

Still as of now their model is pretty much offer a lot less than even mechagnomes and this player tester might mean nothing or maybe some new race of these dwarfs will use jinyu model as a base.

Jinyu won't happen as there's no female model and Blizz can't do FFXIV and create a genderlocked race because even they had to backtrack on that and create new lore for the opposite sex.

[Makorus]

Jinyu won't happen as there's no female model and Blizz can't do FFXIV and create a genderlocked race because even they had to backtrack on that and create new lore for the opposite sex.

OK but Dracthyr.

[Kiria]

OK but Dracthyr.

But what? They clearly have a male and a female visage, you're grasping at straws if you think a 1 gendered race will be accepted by the playerbase just because you want them.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

OK but Dracthyr.

Your visage has body type 1 and 2 on dracthyr.

Like i said anything can happen - Now jinyu use NE as base but it's listed as Jinyu 2.0, could be a remake of this race coming? Yeah.

I just think it's a boring choice for a race that even after some kind of remake will be very limited in options, but still they might surprise me.

Edit: If they were actually making new main race(no allied race), then i would hope they would actually use the resources on something that was being requested for years like ogres, nagas or vrykuls and not fish people.

[Teriz]

Jinyu won't happen as there's no female model and Blizz can't do FFXIV and create a genderlocked race because even they had to backtrack on that and create new lore for the opposite sex.

It also won’t happen because that would mean the Horde gets tiny monkeys that fling poop at each other.

[Makorus]

But what? They clearly have a male and a female visage, you're grasping at straws if you think a 1 gendered race will be accepted by the playerbase just because you want them.

Your visage has body type 1 and 2 on dracthyr.

Yet the actual race has one bodytype.

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It also won’t happen because that would mean the Horde gets tiny monkeys that fling poop at each other.

Jinyu for Alliance does not mean Hozen for the Horde.

[FossilFree]

Jinyu won't happen as there's no female model and Blizz can't do FFXIV and create a genderlocked race because even they had to backtrack on that and create new lore for the opposite sex.

So...make a female model?

What kind of message does it send when making models for women is "too much work" or "not worth the effort?" This goes for Broken and Ogres as well.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

Yet the actual race has one bodytype.

Yeah, because you already have visage form that you can choose who you want to be.

[Raetary]

Jinyu won't happen as there's no female model and Blizz can't do FFXIV and create a genderlocked race because even they had to backtrack on that and create new lore for the opposite sex.

Jinyu have no female model right now.
If Blizzard ever decided to make them playable, they will design any and all assets necessary to make them playable.

[Kiria]

Jinyu have no female model right now.
If Blizzard ever decided to make them playable, they will design any and all assets necessary to make them playable.

I get that but its a reach, I mean who really wants these races anyway? They're not really demanded for on a regular basis not like Ogres and Arrakoa, it would be a fail move for Blizz to introduce such a boring race.

[Makorus]

Yeah, because you already have visage form that you can choose who you want to be.

Right, and that is not possible with a one-gendered race... why?

It's not like Jinyu are really male or female coded anyway lmao.

"They haven't done it before so they will never do it!" (when they have, but nevermind that) is such an idiotic statement.

[Cheezits]

I get that but its a reach, I mean who really wants these races anyway? They're not really demanded for on a regular basis not like Ogres and Arrakoa, it would be a fail move for Blizz to introduce such a boring race.

I can't think of a race that is ACTUALLY highly demanded by the playerbase anymore besides Sethrak during their hype craze in BFA. The only other ones were Zandalari which happened, Maghar which happened, and then High Elves which mostly happened. Oh and Vulpera, but they were pretty obviously going to be playable the second they got their model upgrade.

All the monster/"ugly" races are niche demands from loreheads. Otherwise casuals don't seem to really care as they just play sexy humanoids (which is probably why Drachtyr were created, so people could have special humanoid forms and the monster people could get a dragon as well).

[Makorus]

Unless I'm mistaken, MrGM is going for a bit of a trip this week. Noticed any other content creators announcing going away for a few days?

In case there's an event where they get briefed about the expansion or something.

They are not gonna brief content creators on the expansion, and especially not a week before Blizzcon.

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I can't think of a race that is ACTUALLY highly demanded by the playerbase anymore besides Sethrak during their hype craze in BFA. The only other ones were Zandalari which happened, Maghar which happened, and then High Elves which mostly happened.

All the monster/"ugly" races are niche demands from loreheads. Otherwise casuals don't seem to really care as they just play sexy humanoids.

As much as I would love Ogres, people thinking them or Arrakoa are in demand are deluding themselves.

There's a reason pretty much half the playerbase alone is divided between BEs and Human.

[Cheezits]

Unless I'm mistaken, MrGM is going for a bit of a trip this week. Noticed any other content creators announcing going away for a few days?

In case there's an event where they get briefed about the expansion or something.

He said it was for something that he can't talk about so it probably is an expansion debrief type thing, they did something similar for DF if I remember right.

[flan1337]

I’m expecting the Algarian Dwarves to be the cut Skardyn from Cataclysm that were supposed to be in Grim Batol.



It would make sense from what we know about them so far, especially if the rift the Earthen were sent to investigate turns out to be the remains of the 5th old god after all.

I think you nailed it - what do we know about these guys?

[ImTheMizAwesome]

Right, and that is not possible with a one-gendered race... why?

It's not like Jinyu are really male or female coded anyway lmao.

"They haven't done it before so they will never do it!" (when they have, but nevermind that) is such an idiotic statement.

Stop being a little bit too emotional there, because im not saying it's not possible, go read what i actually said that they might me remaking model that's why it's listed as 2.0 and that they might surprise me.

What i said that situation with dracthyr and jinyu is very different, because Jinyu don't have visage form and dragon form doesn't need titties, but they can have more options with version 2.0 of the base model for Jinyu.

Chill.

[FossilFree]

As much as I would love Ogres, people thinking them or Arrakoa are in demand are deluding themselves.

There's a reason pretty much half the playerbase alone is divided between BEs and Human.

Popularity should not define whether a race is included as playable or not. Otherwise, just get rid of the choice all together and make blue banner humans and red banner humans (with pointy ears).

[Cheezits]

Popularity should not define whether a race is included as playable or not. Otherwise, just get rid of the choice all together and make blue banner humans and red banner humans (with pointy ears).

The point was more that Blizzard rarely ever makes races based on what is popular, and instead what they think is cool. Hence Dracthyr instead of Drakonids or Dragons.

[Makorus]

Popularity should not define whether a race is included as playable or not. Otherwise, just get rid of the choice all together and make blue banner humans and red banner humans (with pointy ears).

Sorry, but as long as it takes money to implement something, yeah, you go with stuff people actually want to play or invest money into.

Shouldn't be that way, but yeah.