Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Polybius]

heh
https://twitter.com/WarcraftRumble/s...34956531998972
Warcraft Rumble is showing the Gryphon Rider.
What a coincidence. or is it? KEKW

Huh. Could you imagine finally having multifaceted aerial combat?

[Ersula]

Alright, this just proof that Stormbreak is real. We going to get a revamp folks.

What would be extremely funny is a WoW Artist making a fake leak from the real leak. It's not "Stormbreak" it's "Stormbeak caw caw" Gryphon expansion.

Dragon Isles did it already with one singular sentence in an Island Expedition drop quest that most people probably didn't do.

Dragon Isles have been referenced since Warcraft 2

[Cheezits]

The idea that "Stormbreak" would be a Dwarf expansion because a dwarf and gryphon is on the cover/the CE is a gryphon is absolutely insane.

[Makorus]

What would be extremely funny is a WoW Artist making a fake leak from the real leak. It's not "Stormbreak" it's "Stormbeak caw caw" Gryphon expansion.
Dragon Isles have been referenced since Warcraft 2

I wouldn't really say the "Dragon Isles have been referenced since Warcraft 2" based on one multiplayer map which was called that because it was literally a dragons head.

Arguably, it was a thing since Vanilla because it was going to be a thing in Vanilla, but it really wasn't anything other than a concept until Dragonflight.

Same deal with Shadowlands. Yeah, we knew it existed, but we didn't really know what it was.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

Stormbreak confirmed fake: The art is from a 2019 blizzcon mouse pad

Even then, the logo looks far too close to the old one. We've just set a precedent of totally-distinct logo backgrounds with Dragonflight, so I think that any return to variants on the old logo can be easily written off unless we're trying to sell Classic+ content.

[Santandame]

Why do people believe “Stormbreak” indicates revamp?

[elderu]

Stormbreak debunked.

As we prepared for DF, the Expansion Reveal ad had a new font-face for the "World of Warcraft" in this image

We were right in suspecting the change would be seen on an official new logo, as it was on Dragonflight.
This tipped us off to any fake leaks, and it shouldn't stop us now.

Both "of" and the "R" in the new Dragonflight logo are notably changed, and are unlikely to be reverted now that they have that Render of the text to reuse. Classic has a longer, curved R. DF has a shorter/straighter/sharper R.

Stormbreak is very seemingly just using this old vanilla shape for the "R", and even the "of" is still the small one.

[Enrif]

I wouldn't really say the "Dragon Isles have been referenced since Warcraft 2" based on one multiplayer map which was called that because it was literally a dragons head.

Arguably, it was a thing since Vanilla because it was going to be a thing in Vanilla, but it really wasn't anything other than a concept until Dragonflight.

Same deal with Shadowlands. Yeah, we knew it existed, but we didn't really know what it was.

i think this is something people have to remember. Every single Expansion for WoW has references already somewhere that are bigger than a single line in some book that was only very recently added.

BC - Outlands was a part of the WC3:TfT campaign
WotLK - Warcraft 3
Cataclysm - Warcraft 2 - Deathwing was already a thing back then and there was a hideous visual game with thrall that also had deathwing in it. The elemental zones were known from the Warcraft RPG. Gilneas and Kezan were also quite known already.
MoP - Joke character from WC3 turned into full Addon (this one is the closest to an asspull, altough the expac was great)
WoD - Return to pre-WC1 Draenor, but a well known place
Legion - Broken Isles were a small part from WC2/WC3, but not totally unknown
BfA - The Zandalari Empire and Kul'Tiras were longs known locations.
SL - Referenced during the life of WoW
DF - Dragonisles longs known, part of some WoW Vanilla Map even

Any Expasnion based on Avaloren/Khaz'Algar would have next to no understanding in the wider playerbase to get an idea of what is to be expected. Which also brings the big risk of not getting hype for it.

[Nebron]

The idea that "Stormbreak" would be a Dwarf expansion because a dwarf and gryphon is on the cover/the CE is a gryphon is absolutely insane.

Isn't it a default? There's nothing insane about it actually.

Alexstrasza and dragons - Dragonflight
Bolvar and Torghast - Shadowlands
Orc and Human face-off - Battle for Azeroth
Illidan - Legion
and so on...

[Raetary]

Why do people believe “Stormbreak” indicates revamp?

Because the logo looks like the vanilla logo.

If we do get a revamp, they could very well have designed the logo to resemble the old logo on purpose.

[Ersula]

The idea that "Stormbreak" would be a Dwarf expansion because a dwarf and gryphon is on the cover/the CE is a gryphon is absolutely insane.

Just let us have this. Dwarf fans have had so little for so long. Though there's a good chance Dwarves don't even appear in the reveal cinematic: Shadowlands didn't show any of the Shadowlands besides the very tip of Torghast. WoD cinematic didn't show any of Kul Tiras or Zandalar. Legion was just the broken shore, etc.

Both "of" and the "R" in the new Dragonflight logo are notably changed, and are unlikely to be reverted now that they have that Render of the text to reuse. Classic has a longer, curved R. DF has a shorter/straighter/sharper R.

Stormbreak is very seemingly just using this old vanilla shape for the "R", and even the "of" is still the small one.

I am now fantasizing about a punk themed logo for the expansion where they add bards. ETC on the cover & the R in World is backwards.

[Gigantique]

Given the precedence of every expansion since WoD that's highly doubtful.



Neltharion = Deathwing.

It's also Deathwing using the Dark Nexus or whatever it was called skin, clearly Deathwing is there representing Heroes of the Storm not WoW.

Unless poker-dealing Illidan is also hinting at something in the other poster? Can't have it both ways.

[Santandame]

Because the logo looks like the vanilla logo.

If we do get a revamp, they could very well have designed the logo to resemble the old logo on purpose.

I was all aboard team revamp but all of the Khaz Algar/Avaloren theorising had me super excited for what those areas might entail.

If it is a revamp next, I hope those areas aren’t too far off after.

[milkmustache]

I'm not saying Stormbreak is necessarily real, but I'm not sure this argument holds water. The idea kind of is that Stormbreak would be a return to the old style of WoW. Perhaps even including a world revamp. So paying homage to the old logotype, with a few added touches, makes sense.

There are some small, subtle details in the Stormbreak logo that are different from the old one. For example the slight glow on the planet, and the design of the golden frame.

The carrot under the C is much more pronounced, as well as the gilding on the edges being different. It's not a Classic+ logo either, which also uses the floating text underneath the main logo.

This is definitely something new, and most likely fake, but it certainly gives us great discussion and hope for #teamworldrevamp

[elderu]

I'm not saying Stormbreak is necessarily real, but I'm not sure this argument holds water. The idea kind of is that Stormbreak would be a return to the old style of WoW. Perhaps even including a world revamp. So paying homage to the old logotype, with a few added touches, makes sense.

yea yea thought about it and knew better than to dillydally in that line of thinking.

The frame very well could return for a revamp, but when you just made a brand new render of your 20 year old world of warcraft typeface, no. The DF one is minorly upgraded. Key word: Upgraded.
You would not notice anything missing if a revamp logo used the DF version of this 3D text render, as compared to a slightly curvier version.

Because then they would have to go and start redistributing the vector versions of a "NEW OLD" logo again, when they -JUST- did this for Dragonflight's upgrade.

[Ersula]

It's also Deathwing using the Dark Nexus or whatever it was called skin, clearly Deathwing is there representing Heroes of the Storm not WoW.

Unless poker-dealing Illidan is also hinting at something in the other poster? Can't have it both ways.

Wait.... Dark Nexus Deathwing was literally the last skin added to HotS... Could it be they announce they're going back to updating Hots?

[Skildar]

in Legion they went in the right direction for the franchise logo with a design closer to flat. But then have moved away from this and Dragonflight is the worst iteration of the logo.
they should just ignore the decorations and go full flat design for "World of Warcraft" then have a fancy font and decorated design for the expansion name.
In their communications they released a logo for dragonflight that is immensely better than the game name logo.

[flan1337]

Stormbreak debunked.

As we prepared for DF, the Expansion Reveal ad had a new font-face for the "World of Warcraft" in this image

We were right in suspecting the change would be seen on an official new logo, as it was on Dragonflight.
This tipped us off to any fake leaks, and it shouldn't stop us now.

Both "of" and the "R" in the new Dragonflight logo are notably changed, and are unlikely to be reverted now that they have that Render of the text to reuse. Classic has a longer, curved R. DF has a shorter/straighter/sharper R.

Stormbreak is very seemingly just using this old vanilla shape for the "R", and even the "of" is still the small one.

https://www.blizzard.com/en-us/

Blizz still uses the WoW Vanilla logo for world of warcraft on their home page

Also look at the classic wow logo outline with the old R:

[Hitei]

Stormbreak is very seemingly just using this old vanilla shape for the "R", and even the "of" is still the small one.

Font is kinda the smallest of the problems here.

They completely abandoned the old style frame in DF, and the new logos don't have bottom "plates" for the subtitle. Also not going to get a color scheme that is almost 1:1 the vanilla look (just confuses Classic and Retail and makes it unclear at passing glance that you're looking at a new product) and they haven't used a single-hued logo aesthetic since MoP.

https://www.blizzard.com/en-us/

Blizz still uses the WoW Vanilla logo for world of warcraft on their home page

Because it is the base logo for the game. That doesn't really have anything to do with an expansion logo though.

[Baraden]

Dragon Isles did it already with one singular sentence in an Island Expedition drop quest that most people probably didn't do.

Dragon Isles has been a known location since vanilla though