Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Well Done Steak]

Let me decide for myself if the fun will be ruined!

Give me the chance to see this datamining

[Grazrug]

I agree with you, there was a simillar case in LOL and some dataminers came foward saying that a lot of times they found things that they dont share because it spoils the fun and can lead to bad rummors without the full context of things.

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On the VoidStorm images leak.

They look cool, but i have a feeling that they dont "feel wowish" enough, i dont know how to explain it, but they kinda have a diferent vibe.

It is easy to use AI to create those images.

[Marlamin]

Our dear Kakapo has confirmed there is plenty of stuff for dataminers to see that hasn't been shared yet. I think many of them are of the same opinion as Marlamin at this point, in that it's best to keep the really spoilery stuff to themselves unless someone else has already revealed it. As cool as it is to see the leaks, what makes for a more exciting experience? A handful of clues that can paint various pictures for us to obsess over in the lead up to the reveal? Or the Cata leak where the whole damn thing was published and nothing was a surprise except how much ended up being cut?

I'm also purposely not looking for spoilers when it comes to the stuff under the 11.0-related encryption key so it remains a bit of a surprise for me as well. The only thing I've really looked at are the customization options for the mount as they were breaking something in my tools.

And yeah I'm quite sure there's more stuff to find as I accidentally ran into something yesterday while looking at the Outland dragonriding races after someone asked about them here, I'm sure there's more but I'm gathering all my willpower to not jump in the rabbit hole.

https://imgur.com/nNcogKV

Who knows , maybe they know something we don't

That is a reference to the Storm Rider dragonracing achievements that have been thoroughly discussed in here already and a cheeky assumption of preorder going up at BlizzCon which I don't actually know anything about.

[huth]

Probably just the roman empire meme thats going around. (But wold love Kaldorei Empire stuff)

Cetero censeo Orgrimmarem esse delendam.

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I'm also purposely not looking for spoilers when it comes to the stuff under the 11.0-related encryption key so it remains a bit of a surprise for me as well. The only thing I've really looked at are the customization options for the mount as they were breaking something in my tools.

And yeah I'm quite sure there's more stuff to find as I accidentally ran into something yesterday while looking at the Outland dragonriding races after someone asked about them here, I'm sure there's more but I'm gathering all my willpower to not jump in the rabbit hole.

Don't. I heard rabbits eat Kakapos.

[Dragon ANX]

Let me decide for myself if the fun will be ruined!

Give me the chance to see this datamining

The problem is that once is out it is out for everyone.

I'm also purposely not looking for spoilers when it comes to the stuff under the 11.0-related encryption key so it remains a bit of a surprise for me as well. The only thing I've really looked at are the customization options for the mount as they were breaking something in my tools.

And yeah I'm quite sure there's more stuff to find as I accidentally ran into something yesterday while looking at the Outland dragonriding races after someone asked about them here, I'm sure there's more but I'm gathering all my willpower to not jump in the rabbit hole.

I have faith in you!

[Foolicious]

Our dear Kakapo has confirmed there is plenty of stuff for dataminers to see that hasn't been shared yet. I think many of them are of the same opinion as Marlamin at this point, in that it's best to keep the really spoilery stuff to themselves unless someone else has already revealed it. As cool as it is to see the leaks, what makes for a more exciting experience? A handful of clues that can paint various pictures for us to obsess over in the lead up to the reveal? Or the Cata leak where the whole damn thing was published and nothing was a surprise except how much ended up being cut?

A thing to keep in mind in general is that most dataminers don't datamine to spoil upcoming content for others. Leakers and dataminers are usually different people. (Generally speaking. I'm sure there are exceptions as always).
And i personally am glad they have some sort of unspoken moral code that doesn't ruin the fun for others. Also i think its very likely we would have a different approach to the ptr from blizzard if dataminers would leak everything they find immediately.

[Cheezits]

I'm also purposely not looking for spoilers when it comes to the stuff under the 11.0-related encryption key so it remains a bit of a surprise for me as well. The only thing I've really looked at are the customization options for the mount as they were breaking something in my tools.

And yeah I'm quite sure there's more stuff to find as I accidentally ran into something yesterday while looking at the Outland dragonriding races after someone asked about them here, I'm sure there's more but I'm gathering all my willpower to not jump in the rabbit hole.

Does it rhyme with Gogers?

[Well Done Steak]

The problem is that once is out it is out for everyone.



I have faith in you!

That's what you put *****""!!!!! SPOILER WARNINGS!!!!!11!!!?


GIVE ME THE JUICE, BIRD.

[Marlamin]

That's what you put *****""!!!!! SPOILER WARNINGS!!!!!11!!!?
GIVE ME THE JUICE, BIRD.

That doesn't actually work, there's far more people who (maliciously want to) spoil stuff for others than you might think. There is basically no way to talk about anything spoilery without it getting the negative kind of traction.

Does it rhyme with Gogers?

Yeah its pretty, uh, poggers? /s

[Yus atath]

Has anything interesting happened in the last 10 hours?

[Well Done Steak]

That doesn't actually work, there's far more people who (maliciously want to) spoil stuff for others than you might think. There is basically no way to talk about anything spoilery without it getting the negative kind of traction.



Yeah its pretty, uh, poggers? /s

At least drip feed it to us on a weekly basis.

[flan1337]

I'm also purposely not looking for spoilers when it comes to the stuff under the 11.0-related encryption key so it remains a bit of a surprise for me as well. The only thing I've really looked at are the customization options for the mount as they were breaking something in my tools.

And yeah I'm quite sure there's more stuff to find as I accidentally ran into something yesterday while looking at the Outland dragonriding races after someone asked about them here, I'm sure there's more but I'm gathering all my willpower to not jump in the rabbit hole.



That is a reference to the Storm Rider dragonracing achievements that have been thoroughly discussed in here already and a cheeky assumption of preorder going up at BlizzCon which I don't actually know anything about.

To be honest - I kinda want Panda land dragon(drunk)riding. Instead of fire balls its brew bubbles that blur your screen.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

Has anything interesting happened in the last 10 hours?

Nope, we probably have to wait for next week for fresh info or next ptr update.

[Wangming]

I only remember the scaleface, Drek'thar/Dracthyr, cinematic stills stuff being at most a week before the announcement. Are you sure it was a month? It felt like we just saw it, had time to argue over it, and then watched it all be confirmed like the next day.

Was it really just a week? It seemed quite long to me. With that one guy feeding us info and nobody believing him until the reveal came and it turned out to be 100% correct.

I think Bards will be co-signed to a Rogue support spec going forward. It’s a shame as I’d love them to get their own class and the depth to do so is certainly there but I just don’t see it happening at this point.

At least supports specs are a thing now with Augmentation Evoker.

I personally see three ways to do bard. Four actually.

1. A class with three specs A support spec that buffs allied like aug evoker. A tanking spec that uses music to invoke images of famous heroes and uses them as combat pets to rank for you. And a DPS spec where you transform your weapon into famous weapons of the past and wield them in battle. Essentially combat stances.

2. A fourth rogue spec

3. One possible spec for Dark Ranger to differentiate it from Hunters (I know THAT ship alsp possibly sailed, but I'm salty about it.

4. A profession where you gather songs that you can later perform in inns or around campfires to give buffs to parties.
Imagine a song that gives main stat bonus for others and a gold drop bonus for you.

That was about the Diablo 4 expansion though, not WoW.

Okay I'm kinda interested. Does it involve vampires in some form? I feel recently that is where the diablo franchise as a whole is moving towards.

If it isn't either void or Goblins I will eat my pants.

I'll bring ketchup

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To be honest - I kinda want Panda land dragon(drunk)riding. Instead of fire balls its brew bubbles that blur your screen.

I'm all for more cloud serpents, Those look amazing.

[ro9ue]

Given all of the legitimate information we have, I feel like 11.0 will basically play out like this:

11.0

Raid/primary conflict - Iridikron is using his elemental earth powers to get to Azeroth's world soul. The plan is to either corrupt, capture or transport it with the void artifact he's carrying around. He will be like Gul'dan in Nighthold in one of the first raids. All he cares about is vengeance on the Titans, and isn't thinking about the repercussions of handing the world soul to the void, but as he states in the Dawn cinematic, all he cares about is baiting them so he can fight them.

He's been around a long time, and is probably privy to an area that has been deliberately concealed from us by the Titans. That's where the elemental stuff comes in. Given all of these lore books popping up, talking about winds and storms west of Kalimdor, it's probably safe to say this area is being protected by some kind of super storm that no one can get through... except Iridikon is a powerful primal incarnate with elemental powers... which is probably why Xal'atath needed him for her plan.

This is where the elemental theme comes in. In order for us to follow him through this super storm, we need help from our best elementalists. For Alliance and Horde respectively that's both Wildhammer Dwarf gryphon riders and Orc/Horde shamanism probably featuring Thrall, in additional to some neutral Earthen Ring folks.

When we get there we find an entire continent that was isolated in the eye of this storm, and a deep chasm which Iridikron ripped open to get to the world soul. This is where the Earthen Ring and Thrall come in handy. We explore dwarven history, while uncovering some Titan lies and secrets, and by the time we reach Irid, we sort of understand his reasoning for why he's doing this, but he still needs to be stopped before he hands it over to the void.

I imagine it ends with Iridikron baits the Titans, Void still captures the world soul and then we're left with the Titans in an awkward position because they know we now know something they didn't want us to. I think we'll see some infighting from the Titans. Some will agree with us and some will not, which sets up 11.1

11.1
A Titan becomes a villain in some way - likely Aman'Thul. Someone who just wants to reoriginate/wipe everything and reset to 0. The titans on our side might have a moment where they realize they can't stop them, and we're on the brink of losing, so out of desperation they release Sargeras... (personally would be way cooler if Illidan returns with the Titans, and he ends up being the one who releases him). We defeat Aman'thul or the bad celestial villain.

11.2
The void still has the world soul and will lead up to some sort of travel to the moon/nether thing involving Ethereals, Xal, Elune and Void lords.

[Yus atath]

We got the cinematic stills from scaleface much less than a week before the announcement i remember

[Izalla]

Was it really just a week? It seemed quite long to me. With that one guy feeding us info and nobody believing him until the reveal came and it turned out to be 100% correct.

Just checked and the dracthyr and evoker riddle stuff was on the 15th of April, with the announcement four days later on the 19th. I'm pretty sure the picture of the model in the character creation screen was even closer to the announcement

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We got the cinematic stills from scaleface much less than a week before the announcement i remember

That's what I thought as well. There was no way it could be more than a week and even that seemed way too long.

[Nightshade711]

Just checked and the dracthyr and evoker riddle stuff was on the 15th of April, with the announcement four days later on the 19th. I'm pretty sure the picture of the model in the character creation screen was even closer to the announcement

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That's what I thought as well. There was no way it could be more than a week and even that seemed way too long.

Tbh I thought it was a bit sooner as well.
Maybe I’m getting confused with one of the fake leaks that had a “Invoker” in the leak idk.

[Izalla]

Let me decide for myself if the fun will be ruined!

Give me the chance to see this datamining

Well there is your motivation to learn how to be a dataminer. Get your pickaxe ready!

[Reive]

We got the cinematic stills from scaleface much less than a week before the announcement i remember

scaleface told us the name of the expansion and the date of the announcement almost 1 month before tho iirc