1. #24601
    Oh yeah, I forgot about the wyverns.

    So Wyverns have the Wylderdrake and Rocs/Ravens have the Pterodrake. Wylderdrakes were based on the wyverns and not the gryphons.

    So if I'm not mistake, Gryphons are the first old model to get an entirely new dragonriding rig right?

  2. #24602
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    Oh yeah, I forgot about the wyverns.

    So Wyverns have the Wylderdrake and Rocs/Ravens have the Pterodrake. Wylderdrakes were based on the wyverns and not the gryphons.

    So if I'm not mistake, Gryphons are the first old model to get an entirely new dragonriding rig right?
    Gryphons and whatever kind of model is used by the Fire Owl from Mythic Fyrakk

  3. #24603
    Quote Originally Posted by NikolaiShade View Post
    Wooden "dwarves", heretics worshiping Life instead of Order. I thought the same things. And being in the crazy theory safe space: Erinethria's brood are dragons using the Tangled Dreamweaver model
    Calling it now. Keeper Innaria isn't dead she's got a tree in her. Her stone parts are all cracked but being held together by the tendrils of the tree & we see her in 11.0
    Quote Originally Posted by ro9ue View Post
    When you think about it, isn't it weird those were added as dragon models? lol I don't think we ever had any other dragons in the history of the game that were like that.

    One correlates with an alliance race - dwarves.

    One correlates with a horde race - trolls.
    Well, we also have Wyverns (Orcs). I'm surprised the update doesn't support Dragonhawks but it does support Firehawks so we have Blood Elf representation.
    Last edited by Ersula; 2023-10-06 at 04:09 PM.

  4. #24604
    Quote Originally Posted by NikolaiShade View Post
    Wooden "dwarves", heretics worshiping Life instead of Order. I thought the same things. And being in the crazy theory safe space: Erinethria's brood are dragons using the Tangled Dreamweaver model
    It would definitely work nicely given the setup in 10.2, assuming that 10.2 in the final big patch of Dragonflight.
    Just check out "Green Man" which is a celtic motif, and would work well in a context of Avaloren (i.e. Avalon).

  5. #24605
    Quote Originally Posted by NikolaiShade View Post
    Gryphons and whatever kind of model is used by the Fire Owl from Mythic Fyrakk
    Yeah, but the gryphon rig was being developed before we saw the Owl. Could be the owl was worked on first behind the scenes, but still, new rig.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NikolaiShade View Post
    Wooden "dwarves", heretics worshiping Life instead of Order. I thought the same things. And being in the crazy theory safe space: Erinethria's brood are dragons using the Tangled Dreamweaver model
    Could be possible, but AFAIK the Dreamweaver appears in the DF cinematic and there may be one or two in the Emerald Grove area. Unless they retcon it I think the idea was that they are with the Green.

  6. #24606
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    If we're going on precedence, it's going to be either available right after announcement, or shortly after the announcement.
    No expansion was ever available for Preorder straight after announcements (the last few up until Legion definitely weren't!).

    Preorder is usually available 3-4 months after announcement, by which point we will be well into 10.2.5

  7. #24607
    Here are all the models as of 10.2 that have "advanced flying" animations (largely through shared rigs). I would add mount names but that is effort.

  8. #24608
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yzmor View Post
    Next expansion according to AI:
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    I want this, don't care where. Reminds me of Vol'dun and I loved Vol'dun.
    give up dat booty
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  9. #24609
    Quote Originally Posted by Marlamin View Post
    Here are all the models as of 10.2 that have "advanced flying" animations (largely through shared rigs). I would add mount names but that is effort.
    Uhhhh I see Dracthyr, is there any hope they get full dragonriding?

    By the way, any hints to them getting regular/static flying?

    Also... 3 encrypted mounts with dragonriding!

  10. #24610
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    Uhhhh I see Dracthyr, is there any hope they get full dragonriding?
    No clue, they likely show up because the advanced flying they do is just the same animations as dragonriding models use (it is basically the same system).

    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    By the way, any hints to them getting regular/static flying?
    Nothing that is visible right now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post

    Also... 3 encrypted mounts with dragonriding!
    Don't get too excited, those are older mounts that are already available from back when they had to hide filenames from us as well.

  11. #24611
    Quote Originally Posted by Marlamin View Post
    Here are all the models as of 10.2 that have "advanced flying" animations (largely through shared rigs). I would add mount names but that is effort.
    creature/Nutraal/Nutraal.m2
    Nutraal? The Experimental Dracthyr from Aberrus? Will Dracthyr discover the ability to be able to transform into full dragons by the end of dragonflight?
    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    No expansion was ever available for Preorder straight after announcements (the last few up until Legion definitely weren't!).

    Preorder is usually available 3-4 months after announcement, by which point we will be well into 10.2.5
    BFA was. Though Allied Races weren't available until the following patch.

  12. #24612
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    I think the full list of dragonriding ports are these:

    Gryphons (Shared with Cliffside Wylderdrake)
    Pterrodaxes (Shared with Windborne Velocidrake)
    Pre 10.0 Dragons and Regular Drakes (Shared with Highland Drake)
    Protodrakes (Shared with Renewed Protodrake)
    Firehawks (Shared with Renewed Protodrake)
    Heart of the Aspects (Shared with Winding Slitherdrake)

    If there are any I'm missing, please let me know. I'm hoping they add cloud serpents and the weird Ardenweald things to the Slitherdrake rig.
    Gryphons have their own unique animations created afaik, wyverns/wind riders are the ones that share the cliffside animations

  13. #24613
    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    Nutraal? The Experimental Dracthyr from Aberrus? Will Dracthyr discover the ability to be able to transform into full dragons by the end of dragonflight?
    No, he just uses the Dracthyr rig.

  14. #24614
    Quote Originally Posted by Marlamin View Post
    Nothing that is visible right now.
    It would be a wonderful surprise, but probably wouldn't happen until static flying is implemented. Seems to be a 10.2.5 thing.

  15. #24615
    Quote Originally Posted by Marlamin View Post
    Here are all the models as of 10.2 that have "advanced flying" animations (largely through shared rigs). I would add mount names but that is effort.
    Are "Nutraal" and "SomnowlLoa" new things or just weirdly named existing things?

    creature/dracthyrfemale_nochar/dracthyrfemale_nochar.m2

  16. #24616
    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    No expansion was ever available for Preorder straight after announcements (the last few up until Legion definitely weren't!).

    Preorder is usually available 3-4 months after announcement, by which point we will be well into 10.2.5
    shadowlands was available same day at least

  17. #24617
    Quote Originally Posted by ro9ue View Post
    Are "Nutraal" and "SomnowlLoa" new things or just weirdly named existing things?

    creature/dracthyrfemale_nochar/dracthyrfemale_nochar.m2
    Nutraal is a Dracthyr from Aberrus and as such has the same rig as Dracthyr who have advanced flying, SomnowlLoa is the Owl Loa from 10.2 (same rig as the Fyrakk Fire Owl mount).

  18. #24618
    Quote Originally Posted by ro9ue View Post
    Are "Nutraal" and "SomnowlLoa" new things or just weirdly named existing things?

    creature/dracthyrfemale_nochar/dracthyrfemale_nochar.m2
    Nutraal is a oneoff NPC in Aberrus used in an achievement. Somnowl is the new owl in the Dream and the loa model is for Qonzu.

    I believe that idea from the leak that said the preorder bonus will be Dracthyr classes. But maybe it will be Paladins/Shamans (not druids) for everyone with budget totems and crusader mounts?

    Also... what is the PrimalistDragonFireMount? Fyrakk? Fyrn?
    Last edited by Cheezits; 2023-10-06 at 04:25 PM.

  19. #24619
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    Also... what is the PrimalistDragonFireMount? Fyrakk? Fyrn?
    Probably the Fyrakk transformation dragon customization. Fyrn is encrypted and can't be listed in there.

  20. #24620
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    No expansion was ever available for Preorder straight after announcements (the last few up until Legion definitely weren't!).

    Preorder is usually available 3-4 months after announcement, by which point we will be well into 10.2.5
    https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/worl...hadowlands-now

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