Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[huth]

Having "Storm" in it is probably nearing 100% though lol.

Whether it's ---storm like Voidstorm, or Storm--- like Stormbreaker, Stormchaser, Storm Rider, Stormhammer (thrall/shaman ref) etc... idk sounds good. Flood the social media with marketing language "A storm is coming".

I feel a dark horse name would be something thematic to the earth. Shattered, Fractured, Upheaval... something like that. Maybe playing into "secrets" or "lies" of the Titans written history.

Storm-Storm. It is gonna get the ball.

[Fahrad Wagner]

OK it seems that I've missed something: why are we dead on sure the expansion's name has storm in it?

[Raetary]

Doesn't have to necessarily be 'Storm'.
If the name has a weather pattern in its name we could get something with Gale, Tempest, Squall, Winds, Fury or any other synonyms.

[Dracullus]

I feel like expac will be similar to Old Gods/Magni part of BfA, so I expect something with 'Titan' in title. Stormsomething sounds way too like DF launch with Raszageth.

[Marlamin]

Do the Dracthyr have animations for the “whirling surge” ability? The fancy spin one.

Would be dope if their flight was brought up to be in line with the rest of dynamic/ static flight once that’s expanded to the rest of the game.

I don't believe so, but could be wrong. Maybe check the Wowhead dressing room for AdvFly* anims.

[Fahrad Wagner]

Doesn't have to necessarily be 'Storm'.
If the name has a weather pattern in its name we could get something with Gale, Tempest, Squall, Winds, Fury or any other synonyms.

I meant, why are we so sure the name has to be weather-related?

[Marlamin]

I meant, why are we so sure the name has to be weather-related?

It's just assumptions based on the storm and storm related terms. There's nothing actually tangible pointing towards it.

[Raetary]

I meant, why are we so sure the name has to be weather-related?

*shrug*No idea.

I'm just adding to the discussion.

[milkmustache]

I meant, why are we so sure the name has to be weather-related?

There is a lot of reference to storms, winds, etc. across various in game material, namely the new books in 10.2 and the Naga and Nightsquall books in 10.0.7. Combine this with the Stormrider achievement/mount, and it just feels like it's pointing us in a direction.

[FelPlague]

There's a mount that drops from a raid boss in 10.2 that has dragonriding animations and is a fire owl.

And it's a different skeleton then the grpyhon...

- - - Updated - - -

https://www.icy-veins.com/forums/top...y%20Fire%20Owl!

Coming in 10.2. Which means that Gryphon dragonriding-enabled mounts are also coming in 10.2, and those Dwarven trading post items will be available in 10.2.

Show me where it says that. That is an entirely different mount and skeleton. The Gryphon is no where here.

[Marlamin]

Show me where it says that. That is an entirely different mount and skeleton. The Gryphon is no where here.

Correct, nothing has been announced time wise regarding gryphons/old mounts and it requires a bit more work than just adding animations to them (which they already have).

[doledippers]

World of Warcraft: Tropical Storm Ion , lock it in

[Ferlion]

I'm half expecting the Naga to have a utopian society on where ever we are going

[ro9ue]

I meant, why are we so sure the name has to be weather-related?

I think it's not necessarily "weather-related" but very likely elemental related. Besides storms, that would include things like earth, water etc.

[Ersula]

Correct, nothing has been announced time wise regarding gryphons/old mounts and it requires a bit more work than just adding animations to them (which they already have).

I didn't realize Teriz acknowledging the existing Gryphon dragonriding strings & animations meant the closeted gryphon sceptics would pounce on him. My bad.

The new Owl/Druid Dragonriding does exist in 10.2 and those were being developed at the same time as Dragonriding for other mounts. 10.2 development is not over yet. If the pre-order is a non-dragon mount, they definitely will finish them by the time 10.2 is released.

[Ielenia]

No, see what you're doing right now is saying:

"We had elves and dwarves in Norse mythology. The hobbits are pretty much British. Oh, and giant eagles are in loads of media. There's just no correlation between The Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings."

World of Warcraft is set on Azeroth. Azeroth has loads of stuff going on, all of the time. No expansion is ever about just one single theme, and virtually everything you'd find in one expansion will also appear in lots of different ones.

The difference here is that several elements come together very closely to form different themes, or stories.

We saw it with TBC/WoD/Legion, we saw it with WotLK/BfA/SL, and we're seeing it with Cata/DF/11.0.

No, that is not what I'm saying, at all.

I'm simply pointing out that you're equating Cataclysm and Dragonflight because of the lists you made (and even those lists don't match 1:1), but those lists of yours would also equate DF to other expansions, such as Wrath, and even vanilla. And on top of that you make some broad generalizations (the 'cultists' thing) that undermines your attempts at claiming DF is a 'mirror' of Cataclysm.

By the way, your comparison also fails because I'm not saying that Dragonflight is a continuation of the World of Warcraft story, like you implied in your comparison of "no correlation between The Hobbit and Lord of The Rings". All I'm saying is that Cataclysm and Dragonflight are not mirrors of each other.

[ro9ue]

Wooden "dwarves", heretics worshiping Life instead of Order. I thought the same things. And being in the crazy theory safe space: Erinethria's brood are dragons using the Tangled Dreamweaver model

Could be cool....

[milkmustache]

Could be cool....

Won me over.

[Marlamin]

I didn't realize Teriz acknowledging the existing Gryphon dragonriding strings & animations meant the closeted gryphon sceptics would pounce on him. My bad.

I mean, it's technically possible to add dynamic flying to gryphons right now as I believe all that could be done through hotfixes so it's not out of the question, the only wildcard is the static/dynamic flight switch system that we haven't seen since 10.1.5.

But similarly, they can also make Dracthyr other classes (at least the classes that dont need additional assets) through hotfixes right now, so that doesn't neccesarily mean anything.

The new Owl/Druid Dragonriding does exist in 10.2 and those were being developed at the same time as Dragonriding for other mounts. 10.2 development is not over yet. If the pre-order is a non-dragon mount, they definitely will finish them by the time 10.2 is released.

Yeah, possibly, but I am assuming that the pre-order stuff is ready to go in 10.1.7 as it was added in that and I don't believe there have been any noteworthy updates to the encrypted files in 10.2 so far.

Druid dragonriding is an interesting one I hadn't thought of, the new Somnowl flightform models support dragonriding as they use the same rig as the Fire Owl mount, but it'll also require additional work for them to actually be able to use them as advanced flying. I wonder if any of that work is already findable in 10.2, hmm!

[Selorian]

I meant, why are we so sure the name has to be weather-related?

I think people are tunnel visioning a little on the bits of datamining we got (stormrider mount), plus it's what the fake leaks have been on about so it further sticks in people's brains

But from what we know the storms are just what's preventing us from going west, it doesn't seem like it will actually be an important part of the plot.