Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Makorus]

Dunno when you did the MSQ but recently quite a lot was trimmed from the 2.x MSQ and I think maybe a bit from 2.0 as well. And that was before flying was added. Or all the dungeons were redone. or the graphics update that will come in 7.0
I'm going to stop here cause this is massively off-topic. But maybe it is valuable to the topic at hand that reworking old stuff is sometimes very necessary.

Granted, it's been a while.

I was just not very impressed by it, and I kinda developed a small hatred for the game. Everyone would always tell me "Oh yeah, it's gonna get better", so I pushed on through, reached the end bit of Heavensward and then burned out.

[Reive]

it gets better, but 80% of the story is a slog lmao

[Wangming]

If you are waiting for the action to start yes, it is a slog. FFXIV's story is a lot more about the characters. Party because there are no novels that you need to buy to tell you what's going on. The two games have very different styles that wouldn't work in each other's game.

[Nymrohd]

The entire FFXIV discussion seems WILDLY off topic.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

Well anyway, new week started with hopefully some new info.

i vote for blizzcon goodies reveal.

[Wangming]

Well anyway, new week started with hopefully some new info.

i vote for blizzcon goodies reveal.

Hopefully. Cause until then it is just circlejerk arguments about revamps, tinkers, housing, the usual suspects.

[Makorus]

This week we are gonna get:

Blizzcon Rewards and 10.2 release date.

And that's gonna be it until Blizzcon. It's going to be a boring month.

[Sondrelk]

Hopefully. Cause until then it is just circlejerk arguments about revamps, tinkers, housing, the usual suspects.

Expecting something from Blizzcon goodies to reveal anything about the next expansion seems pointless at this point. Odds are it will be the Blizzard elemental and the Ysera murloc.

[Valysar]

Expecting something from Blizzcon goodies to reveal anything about the next expansion seems pointless at this point. Odds are it will be the Blizzard elemental and the Ysera murloc.

Perfectly themed after 10.2 (Vyranoth & Ysera)

[Wangming]

Expecting something from Blizzcon goodies to reveal anything about the next expansion seems pointless at this point. Odds are it will be the Blizzard elemental and the Ysera murloc.

Don't be such a sourdough. We may never know when an unexpected data mine or a fake-looking expansion concept hits us.

[Myrrh]

This week we are gonna get:

Blizzcon Rewards and 10.2 release date.

And that's gonna be it until Blizzcon. It's going to be a boring month.

Eh, should only be two or so weeks in drought. Surely the Blizzcon rewards either this week or next. Then, unless they've actually managed to sort their shit out for the first time ever (lol - no) we're bound to get a real leak of some sort mixed in amongst the torrent of fakes in the final week.

All we can hope for in the middle is more PTR additions; either intentional like the recent lore books or we get real lucky and something shows up accidentally in the style of the iron horde banner. But chances are we should all go do something productive for that period, discussions are bound to get really cyclical...

[Wangming]

Eh, should only be two or so weeks in drought. Surely the Blizzcon rewards either this week or next. Then, unless they've actually managed to sort their shit out for the first time ever (lol - no) we're bound to get a real leak of some sort mixed in amongst the torrent of fakes.

Oh for sure. Can somebody who is not stuck in an office look up when the legit leaks hit the speculation threads for each expansion compared to BlizzCon? That could give us a pretty good guestimate.

[Sondrelk]

Don't be such a sourdough. We may never know when an unexpected data mine or a fake-looking expansion concept hits us.

We shall see. Though I will refrain from getting too excited until Blizzcon proper.

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Eh, should only be two or so weeks in drought. Surely the Blizzcon rewards either this week or next. Then, unless they've actually managed to sort their shit out for the first time ever (lol - no) we're bound to get a real leak of some sort mixed in amongst the torrent of fakes.

All we can hope for in the middle is more PTR additions; either intentional like the recent lore books or we get real lucky and something shows up accidentally in the style of the iron horde banner. But chances are we should all go do something productive for that period, discussions are bound to get really cyclical...

The real leaks should begin once Blizzcon proper starts being organized at the convention center and non-Blizzcon staff has a chance to get their hands on press kits, or listen to the rehearsals.

Hopefully we get some good leaks. The Shadowlands one with Bolvar is probably my favorite so far, because it told us so much, and yet so little we didnt already know.

[Dracullus]

This week we are gonna get:

Blizzcon Rewards and 10.2 release date.

And that's gonna be it until Blizzcon. It's going to be a boring month.

We truly live in tik-tok times. Most exciting month outside expac launch and people call it boring cause there won't be official news for 2 weeks xD.

Reminds me of people panicking last year that expac is coming mid-2023 cause there wasn't pre-order or Alpha right after DF reveal.

[Nymrohd]

We shall see. Though I will refrain from getting too excited until Blizzcon proper.

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The real leaks should begin once Blizzcon proper starts being organized at the convention center and non-Blizzcon staff has a chance to get their hands on press kits, or listen to the rehearsals.

Hopefully we get some good leaks. The Shadowlands one with Bolvar is probably my favorite so far, because it told us so much, and yet so little we didnt already know.

I don't even know if that is a good call anymore. I got so excited for WoD (and then cancelled my preorder when they cancelled Karabor as a capital and pretended they never said it would happen). I got so excited for BfA. I even was somewhat excited for Torghast as a potential solo advancement path then seeing how happy testers were about it for Alpha only for both the reward system and the content to change completely by launch. It's just hard to trust them anymore.

[Myrrh]

Oh for sure. Can somebody who is not stuck in an office look up when the legit leaks hit the speculation threads for each expansion compared to BlizzCon? That could give us a pretty good guestimate.

Super quick dump of recent ones that come to mind and I could find proof for dates:

Shadowlands unveiled at Blizzcon 2019, starting 1 Nov: Truely cracked URL wizardry revealed Bolvar on the merch store about 28 Oct. Bastion image was being spread around various discord servers (and here) a few days prior.
Dragonflight unveiled on stream 19 April: Pre-purchases in source code noticed around 2 April, certificates registered 29 March. Can't be bothered trawling further for the photo of the promo material or the Scaleface posts, but I vaguely remember it being effectively week of.

The DF crt.sh find was actually a lot earlier than I thought.

[Wangming]

Hopefully we get some good leaks. The Shadowlands one with Bolvar is probably my favorite so far, because it told us so much, and yet so little we didnt already know.

I remember so many were convinced it is not real. because the color is wrong or some shit...I loved that.

[Lady Atia]

I don't even know if that is a good call anymore. I got so excited for WoD (and then cancelled my preorder when they cancelled Karabor as a capital and pretended they never said it would happen). I got so excited for BfA. I even was somewhat excited for Torghast as a potential solo advancement path then seeing how happy testers were about it for Alpha only for both the reward system and the content to change completely by launch. It's just hard to trust them anymore.

It's still baffling how much they messed up Torghast lol. It's like someone saw that it had the potential to be a real pillar of the game and they were fearing people wouldn't want to play m+/raids anymore so they completely wracked it but also made it mandatory at the same time.

[Wangming]

Super quick dump of recent ones that come to mind and I could find proof for dates:

Shadowlands unveiled at Blizzcon 2019, starting 1 Nov: Truely cracked URL wizardry revealed Bolvar on the merch store about 28 Oct. Bastion image was being spread around various discord servers (and here) a few days prior.
Dragonflight unveiled on stream 19 April: Pre-purchases in source code noticed around 2 April, certificates registered 29 March. Can't be bothered trawling further for the photo of the promo material or the Scaleface posts, but I vaguely remember it being effectively week of.

The DF crt.sh find was actually a lot earlier than I thought.

That is very interesting, thank you. I seem to recall that the legit BfA leak was very early but it was just a few lines of stuff inide a longer thread and we only knew it was legit in hindsight.
Remember the good old days when a trademark kickstarted the discussions?
And how both the expansion name and the eventual true leak was so goddamn out of your mind stupid that nobody believed WoD until Blizzard showed a promo vid were some guy accidentally stood in front of a flag during an interview and the WoD title card was on it?

[Myrrh]

I remember so many were convinced it is not real. because the color is wrong or some shit...I loved that.

Samesies, similar vibes to WoD. I was so convinced that SoL leak was utter BS, because of course timetravelling orc shananigans couldn't be real. Healthy dose of humble pie there.