Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[FossilFree]

Built like stumps of wood. Stumpies.

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Hopefully no new allied races. Character creation menu is bloated as is. Would rather more customisation options

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Half the allied races we have now should just be customisation options

Rolling them into a single biological group with different culture groups as subheaders would be the best. Also, I think just making them visual things alone is tacky. Instead, if you select certain options you get different racial abilities. This way, they could add some in for groups like Wildhammers and Man'ari.

[Auxis]

On the topic of Belular, I can't take his content seriously anymore. He flip flops nearly every video to the point that he barely comes across as a player and comes across more as just a news channel/gossipmonger for those views and $$$.

[Chickat]

I'm getting some Clash of the Titans + Immortals movies vibes from that login screen music.

Wasn't it already confirmed to be overwatch related?

[Merryck]

On the topic of Belular, I can't take his content seriously anymore. He flip flops nearly every video to the point that he barely comes across as a player and comes across more as just a news channel/gossipmonger for those views and $$$.

He's just confused. Maybe even scared.

[Nibelheimy]

Rolling them into a single biological group with different culture groups as subheaders would be the best. Also, I think just making them visual things alone is tacky. Instead, if you select certain options you get different racial abilities. This way, they could add some in for groups like Wildhammers and Man'ari.

I hope this will one day be the case.

Considering the way things are now, I would of been more for restriction of race class combo's if they had become available for some sub-races where it made sense. I.E all dwarves could be warriors, rogues, hunters, Deathknights. Wildhammers could be those with Shamans and Druids additionally, Bronzebeards could be those with Paladins and priests and mages additionally, and Dark Irons the same original classes but with Mages and Warlocks additionally.

I appreciate the people who have the view 'I've been playing for twenty years, let me play what I want, its not unfeasible my dwarf can be a shaman.' I really do. But in my eyes unless certain race class combo's are given justifiable ccultural reasons for having the class, I.E Tauren Sunwalkers, it only serves to take away from the class and race themselves. Le old 'You can play a whildhammer just put the tattoos on' is not enough for me, although much more okay now customization is completely free at the barbershop.

Man'ari should of been a sub race (Thank god they gave them a green gift of the naaru at least), we deserve a few more troll subraces, Wildhammers should be a subrace, Undead Elves should have really been a subrace, Broken should be a sub-race, Tuanka should be a sub-race, Kul'tirans should be a subrace (and not as big as they are) the orc clans although not racially diverse enough to be propper subraces, would probably be very interesting.

Although this ship has likely sailed, it would of been perfect in my eyes.

In hindsight, what on earth was more blood elf customizations doing on the road map? Is it not like 5 hair colours?

[Zers Editor]

Hey. I saw a comment on reddit about how theres datamined content suggesting Alexstrasza will be corrupted. The only thing I can think of seeing is that vision of Tyr fighting that cthraxi general who showed him each aspect who 'fell' in chronological order (Neltharion > Malygos > Ysera > Nozdormu > Alexstrasza). May have gotten Maly and Noz in the wrong positions, but what's important is Alex is the last one.

Has there been more stuff datamined since then?

Because I'm pretty sure we've been debating whether that means she will be corrupted or if she will 'betray' Tyr - meaning anything ranging from Tyr not being the Tyr the Aspects knew who deems Alexstrasza's defiance as betrayal, to Alex learning what the Keepers were doing with the Waters and lashing out (unlikely given her character, she is extremely forgiving and passive, favouring life over unnecessary death), to Alex defying Odyn being a betrayal of the Titans.

The vision part focuses more on the "corruption" than the "betrayal". It seems more likely to me that out of fear of what corrupted Alexstrasza could do to Azeroth (after he'll be filled in on what the previous corrupted Aspects did to it and how their fates correlate with Zakajz's illusions), he'll try to take her out and 10.2.5 will be about trying to stop him from doing so. Tyr's Guard and Chromie/Nozdormu will probably be the most involved.

[Melorandor]

He's just confused. Maybe even scared.

How is his game?

[Eeram]

On the topic of Belular, I can't take his content seriously anymore. He flip flops nearly every video to the point that he barely comes across as a player and comes across more as just a news channel/gossipmonger for those views and $$$.

he just plays to what the fans want to hear

[ImTheMizAwesome]

Meh, this bundle is kinda disappointing, i no longer play ow and i will play d4 again but i don't care about premium battle pass so it's just not worth it.

Ysera pet is very cool looking with animations, elemental mount i dunno never was fan of these mounts.

I guess i will just save up some money for the expansion.

[PaladinBash]

IDK I haven't heard anything but Earthen/Dwarfs becoming wooden or just like little versions of Stone Giants sounds cool as hell. I don't know where the thought of gryphons being their flight form came from but it sounds fun. It just seems like a way to tie in Dwarf Druids with something other than just chilling in Fern Gully 2.0 for a patch and gryphons are always something I associate with Dwarfs.

It'd make a cool unlockable race customisation for sure if nothing else. I think that's something they should do more of rather than Allied Races which require new/rebalanced racials and stuff. Can just whack a renown unlock or questline in and bam you got it. Easy way to bring in Broken, other Troll tribes, Dragonmaw orcs and so on for side patches.

Also not a fan of the goodie bundle this year. Not a big drama though, that Blizz balance can sit there for a D4 DLC/expansion if they want to release pallies/crusaders for it. Seasons might still be a joke but I'd at least play it if I could the class I want in it.

[Alanar]

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In hindsight, what on earth was more blood elf customizations doing on the road map? Is it not like 5 hair colours?

Yea, when ever there is "new" costumization options like that again, just going to hold my expectations even more.

Its not even worth the bullitpoint.. Its weird that they even think that. 5 skin colors, I mean what..

[Wangming]

So what do people think? New core races, or new allied races?

I was just planning on talking about this today.

We are still missing Allied Races for Forsaken and Undead.
And guess what. We now have the Emerald Dream as a permanent zone. Ya know, the place where the original Night Elf druids were exiled to.
Druids of the Pack here we effin goooo!

Unless, and here me out: They throw us a curveball and give us Undead Night Elves that rejoin the Alliance and Horde gets one of the core races afflicted by the Worgen curse. Orc could be fun, but since the number of elvish races is balanced it is more likely to include Blood Elves. Perhaps along with a revamped Quel'Thalas that explains the whole thing. (I mean the Worgen curse is right there in Gilneas, Lordaeron and Duskwood. Most of the Horde is in Kalimdor. Two are not: Forsaken who are immune, and Blood Elves.

[Melorandor]

So what do people think? New core races, or new allied races?

Ogres for the Horde, and High Elves for the Alliance.

[Raetary]

So what do people think? New core races, or new allied races?

Core races.

But preferably neither and we just keep getting customisation options.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

So what do people think? New core races, or new allied races?

My hopium for at least one of things happening -

-Core races Ogres and vrykuls, even if at least one of them will be available i will be happy, vrykuls could be like pandas for both factions.
-Allied races - Mok'nathal for the horde, Broken for Alliance
-New specs - Blademaster or gladiator spec for warriors

But i also hope for a lot more customization options, especially for allied races..

I want much more skin tones that NPC use for mag'har orcs, new eye colors(you still can't use blue eye color on mag'har orcs after many years, full yellow eyes like grommash etc..), necklace options for dude orcs, body scars and new face scars, much more tattoos that aren't just full body tattoos or full body warpaints for races, new hairstyles like some that NPC's use, WoD grommash hair for orcs for example.

Another thing for customization - races x allied races that use the same character model just should have access to all the hairstyles that said race uses, beards and such.

[Lahis]

-New specs - Blademaster or gladiator spec for warriors

Is there anything to Blademasters that adding Mirror Images to Arms tree wouldn't achieve?

[ImTheMizAwesome]

[QUOTE=Lahis;54248527]

-New specs - Blademaster or gladiator spec for warriors/QUOTE]

Is there anything to Blademasters that adding Mirror Images to Arms tree wouldn't achieve?

Well that's true.

I guess they could go with some Samuro like builds from Hots that are based a lot on mirror images and invisibility/windwalking + critical strikes etc.
https://www.icy-veins.com/heroes/samuro-build-guide

But like you said having some build based on mirror images to arms could just work as well, i just always loved using it in W3 and Hots and im disappointed that warriors still don't have that iconic ability. ;/

[Wangming]

[QUOTE=Lahis;54248527]

-New specs - Blademaster or gladiator spec for warriors/QUOTE]

Is there anything to Blademasters that adding Mirror Images to Arms tree wouldn't achieve?

Class fantasy?

[FelPlague]

I mean yes, but I think they were suggesting they picked that as a clip for a reason. Surely there are dozens of other lines they could've used. But they ended with Khaz Modan gryphon rider and a new WoW login screen music.

Could be tin foil, could be them being fun about it.

Troll expansion confirmed cause they also summoned a troll and he said "TAZDINGO!" oh and money expansion confirmed cause they summon a kobold and it says "money money money"

Not new wow login screen music, it is old login screen music, just extra tone in the background. And as other said, when the rider is summoned in game that is what they say.
literally grasping at straws here, 100% a dwarf expansion, but this has nothing to do with it.
They didnt "use" that line, they just used generic gameplay of it.

[Santandame]

Core races.

But preferably neither and we just keep getting customisation options.

Why neither and not both? We can still get added customisation to the old races and add in much requested new races like Ogre, Jinyu etc. Best of both worlds. I’ll never understand why people wouldn’t want more playable races. Variety is the spice of life.

Broken and Mok’nathal can be a toggle for Draenei and Orcs.