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    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    For all the people harping on how "it doesn't have enough patches!".

    Did you guys even look at most .1 patches?

    Most of them add a raid and that's it. No new zone and barely any content.
    I don't really get this take, considering both Major Patches for this expansion had the developers not really develop anything that spiked out on the creativity charts indicating that they are holding back or have been working on expansion features instead for the next expansion. (At least thats' the belief because the resources have to have gone somewhere.)

    This expansion really was the most blatant at copy & paste development with their production pipeline so far with no divertion or surprises beyond the fact the Game Files for 10.2 being similar to 9.2 indicating its time to "Cut & Run guys, come on defend this again in a normal expansion where the main point is for us to run a positive PR Campaign that builds back the broken trust and reputation. Oh wait.".

    Look, I get that there will be apologists for billion dollar companies to cut it down to just 1 patch for $50 + subscription and with Trading Post Premium (BlackCell WoW Edition) but come on, this is just a bit ridiculous ain't it?
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  2. #26322
    Quote Originally Posted by Aenythh View Post
    Why would Aggramar need to know what the beings he left on Draenor became to create something similar ? If he uses the same "recipe" to create them, they will look similar, even if he does not know what it would become.
    Because he just created Grond and left. Grond was a giant rock being that broke apart and those pieces then became organic cause of spores. He didn't create anything like an Ogre directly.

  3. #26323
    I just hope that this leak is fake only because i don't want some earthen dwarf looking ogres somehow becoming a playable race.

  4. #26324
    Quote Originally Posted by Nibelheimy View Post
    The augment is so close to the nail in the coffin, it is almost certainly going to be the final major tier of DF. I really hope the .5 and .75 patches have some serious lore and story for the red dragon flight. I'd hate to see yet another cover art character reduce to this level. Its getting to the point where I pray a favourite character won't end up in the forefront for this role I.E. Bolvar/Alexstraza.
    They foreshadowed Alex getting corrupted. I hope that's what happens at the end of the expansion and puts in motion the events of the next one.

  5. #26325
    Quote Originally Posted by Foreign Exchange Ztudent View Post
    I don't really get this take, considering both Major Patches for this expansion had the developers not really develop anything that spiked out on the creativity charts indicating that they are holding back or havve been working on expansion features instead for the next expansion.

    Look, I get that there will be apologists for billion dollar companies to cut it down to just 1 patch for $50 with Trading Post Premium (BlackCell WoW Edition) but come on, this is why I can never take you guys seriously.
    We simply compare number and content of patches. You're not only giving some "is it sparking creativity charts" argument which means literally nothing, but also create strawman that anyone here would defend your imaginery scenario.

  6. #26326
    Quote Originally Posted by DelusionalBear View Post
    what is this?
    Part of the storm dragons recruitment by Warthtion and Vyranoth?

  7. #26327
    Quote Originally Posted by Worldshaper View Post
    I like the website "leak". Not that I think it's real, because it looks like the dwarf is using vanilla gear and the background looks like some edit of the Dragon Isles artwork we've see in Dragonflight.

    But it's a pretty original idea to have it look as if though the front-end team is checking the responsiveness of the site before it goes live.

    It also lets us dream a little, since it looks a bit like the marketing material we'll be drooling over for the next few months before Beta.
    I assume it's meant it be a leaked image from an internal chatroom or something. Though I feel it's also too blatant for that to feel real. How fortuitous that they tested it with some nice juicy info on both screens for instance.

    Have to agree thoughm nice to see a leak that isn't just AI art taken with a blurry camera for once. This one had some effort put in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foreign Exchange Ztudent View Post
    I don't really get this take, considering both Major Patches for this expansion had the developers not really develop anything that spiked out on the creativity charts indicating that they are holding back or have been working on expansion features instead for the next expansion. (At least thats' the belief because the resources have to have gone somewhere.)

    This expansion really was the most blatant at copy & paste development with their production pipeline so far with no divertion or surprises beyond the fact the Game Files for 10.2 being similar to 9.2 indicating its time to "Cut & Run guys, come on defend this again in a normal expansion where the main point is for us to run a positive PR Campaign that builds back the broken trust and reputation. Oh wait.".

    Look, I get that there will be apologists for billion dollar companies to cut it down to just 1 patch for $50 with Trading Post Premium (BlackCell WoW Edition) but come on, this is why I can never take you guys seriously.
    Dragonflight has been a vastly better experience than an expansion since MoP. Even Legion had more pain points.

    I judge the value on my experience of content, not how much content there is.

    Dragonflight has had top tier raids, fun dungeons, lots of open world content, mini games and racing events.

    10/10, would sacrifice a raid tier again.

  9. #26329
    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    For all the people harping on how "it doesn't have enough patches!".

    Did you guys even look at most .1 patches?

    Most of them add a raid and that's it. No new zone and barely any content.
    That's still a raid we are missing out on. While it might not be the sole defining feature of endgame anymore, it's still a tentpole feature that WoW does best among MMOs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akhinos View Post
    Its fake for sure, people fall so easily for fakes that countains their wish lists.
    None of us fell for it, bro. We just compliment what we like about it. But everyone views it as fake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pacotaco View Post
    They foreshadowed Alex getting corrupted. I hope that's what happens at the end of the expansion and puts in motion the events of the next one.
    They ain't gonna restore the aspects then kill one off

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dracullus View Post
    We simply compare number and content of patches. You're not only giving some "is it sparking creativity charts" argument which means literally nothing, but also create strawman that anyone here would defend your imaginery scenario.
    I mean you're defending a content lineup that has no historical basis and are assuming the minds of the developers.

    I'm counting the historical standards of expansions and the fact that I can look over the content lineup for this expansion comparison to others and find it odd that there was no real feature development in any major patches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foreign Exchange Ztudent View Post
    I don't really get this take, considering both Major Patches for this expansion had the developers not really develop anything that spiked out on the creativity charts indicating that they are holding back or have been working on expansion features instead for the next expansion. (At least thats' the belief because the resources have to have gone somewhere.)

    This expansion really was the most blatant at copy & paste development with their production pipeline so far with no divertion or surprises beyond the fact the Game Files for 10.2 being similar to 9.2 indicating its time to "Cut & Run guys, come on defend this again in a normal expansion where the main point is for us to run a positive PR Campaign that builds back the broken trust and reputation. Oh wait.".

    Look, I get that there will be apologists for billion dollar companies to cut it down to just 1 patch for $50 + subscription and with Trading Post Premium (BlackCell WoW Edition) but come on, this is just a bit ridiculous ain't it?
    And I don't get this take?

    Yeah, I enjoy exciting game changing systems, but that was the main criticism of the last few expansion, and of course Blizzard is gonna go more conservative.
    Would I like more than "Another invasion mechanic" for .5/.7 features? Of course.

    Would I say that Dragonflight is not worth its money? Absolutely not lmao.

  14. #26334
    Quote Originally Posted by Wangming View Post
    None of us fell for it, bro. We just compliment what we like about it. But everyone views it as fake.
    I'm not 100% sold on this being fake. No one would have a new species of Ogre-like creatures on a desert plateau on their radar before this. It feels as left field as Dracthyr did to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foreign Exchange Ztudent View Post
    I mean you're defending a content lineup that has no historical basis and are assuming the minds of the developers.

    I'm counting the historical standards of expansions and the fact that I can look over the content lineup for this expansion comparison to others and find it odd that there was no real feature development in any major patches.
    All the feature development in previous expansion was there because there was a borrowed power system i.e. Heart of Azeroth/Artifacts/Covenants/Legendary items in SL.

    The community wanted nothing of the sort, so there we go.

  16. #26336
    Quote Originally Posted by KyleEverett View Post
    I'm not 100% sold on this being fake. No one would have a new species of Ogre-like creatures on a desert plateau on their radar before this. It feels as left field as Dracthyr did to me.
    That just means the leaker has some imagination. Creativity isn't the sole property of real leaks. Fake leaks can make up stuff as well.
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  17. #26337
    Quote Originally Posted by KyleEverett View Post
    I'm not 100% sold on this being fake. No one would have a new species of Ogre-like creatures on a desert plateau on their radar before this. It feels as left field as Dracthyr did to me.
    Lmao look at the bottom dwarves hands. It's so painfully AI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    All the feature development in previous expansion was there because there was a borrowed power system i.e. Heart of Azeroth/Artifacts/Covenants/Legendary items in SL.

    The community wanted nothing of the sort, so there we go.
    Doesn't mean they should cut an entire raid tier because you guys will defend them to the ends of the earth to reduce value for consumers.

    Also its not like its just a raid tier we're talking about here, it would be additional content on top of that.
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    Each expansion's website is historically uniquely designed from the ground up:

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    This one is a near 1:1 copy of Dragonflight's website's layout with each individual element changed slightly.

    Also, because Blizzard's web design team are professionals, background images aren't just slapped on the background, they're vignetted or hit with a gradient, or nudged down in contrast and saturation so that the background naturally fades into the background and it's easier to focus on and read foreground stuff. You don't want the viewer's eyes to be pulled from the actual important stuff to random rivers in the BG. If nothing else, there should be a blurred drop shadow under the text for basic readability.
    Last edited by Hitei; 2023-10-11 at 07:58 AM.

  20. #26340
    Quote Originally Posted by pacotaco View Post
    They foreshadowed Alex getting corrupted. I hope that's what happens at the end of the expansion and puts in motion the events of the next one.
    They foreshadowed her turning against Tyr, not necessarily getting corrupted. As things are, it seems a lot more plausible for him to try to force something on the dragons (maybe he won't approve of Vyranoth) leading to Alextrasza rejecting him for a good reason.

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