Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Well Done Steak]

Light BAD.

Specifically Yrel gets out of a portal dropped by Medivh or something and attacks the Horde and the Alliance has to save them. I will pass. Cool with Light AND Void being dicks, cool with picking one or the other, cool with some Light characters being corrupted or shit again but not saving the Horde from Yrel. Thats my line in the sand.

Why, Yrel is now a fanatical lunatic and her interests do not align with horde or alliance

[Ferlion]

I kinda...Ok, so this is weird, I know.

But if we are to ever discover or go to this new continent, I'd rather we do it AFTER a world revamp. But like, for a reason.

I would love for, instead of us invading or arriving on these new shores, they arrive at ours with a fleet and take over. Then the Horde and Alliance spend the expansion/world revamp finding out and defeating and weakening this empire that took us over.

Then the next expansion is us hitting back

[Hitei]

Not the class abilities, the signature abilities.

Soul shape, phial, FC, and the venthyr port

Oh, right. Forgot those existed. I wouldn't mind having FC back.

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I tend to agree with the suggestion that the name is too vague to instantly pique the interest of lapsed subscribers, but then again Cataclysm exists.

"Cataclysm" is self evident. It's an expansion about a cataclysmic event. Stormbreaker means nothing in isolation. Are we the stormbreaker? is the final boss <The Stormbreaker>? Is there a titan device called the Stormbreaker? Is it a metaphorical name referring to going beyond the ocean storms and there's no actual stormbreaking happening? It's a whole other level of meaninglessness.

[huth]

Light BAD.

Specifically Yrel gets out of a portal dropped by Medivh or something and attacks the Horde and the Alliance has to save them. I will pass. Cool with Light AND Void being dicks, cool with picking one or the other, cool with some Light characters being corrupted or shit again but not saving the Horde from Yrel. Thats my line in the sand.

Wouldn't that mean your issue is with "Yrel EVIL" not Light bad?

[ro9ue]

What is the ONE theme Blizzard could announce at BlizzCon 2023 that would immediately make you say, "yep, I'm done?"

I never thought I wouldn't be interested in a dragon focused expansion, but here we are. It's really the tone that will do it for me. Any theme can be made cool I think.

[Revamp Man]

Can't lie I'd love a high seas expansion with the elements

You also have to take into account we are killing the current firelord thus bringing imbalance between the elements and creating a power vacuum in the firelands AGAIN

[flan1337]

Wait why do we still believe stormbreaker? The second image they shared had the incorrect U? I thought we agreed its debunked.

[Gloriandus]

Wait why do we still believe stormbreaker? The second image they shared had the incorrect U? I thought we agreed its debunked.

I don't think there was any "agreement", really, and Blizzard of course could use a different font this go-round, but that particular font, called Semplicita Pro, is the one they've used since Shadowlands in their promotional materials, and said font features several distinct characters and glyphs that make it rather obvious when it's not the one being used. Many fakes of screenshots, logos, etc. usually are done by people without access to the fonts or too cheap to buy them to be more convincing.

Stormbreaker, however, is the best "leak" imo in terms of effort on the part of the "leaker" since it at least appears like it could be legitimate.

[Kiivar86]

While there are valid arguments against some titles, the one for "it doesn't fit previous patterns" really just makes me laugh since I've seen that particular argument brought forward so many times for previous expansion title leaks.

"Cataclysm can't be the title, no expansion's had a single word title before." "Mists of Pandaria can't be the title, all previous expansions referenced the main threat!" "Battle for Azeroth sounds like a patch title/spinoff!" Etc.

Stormbreaker works as a title just fine.

[Pheraz]

What is the ONE theme Blizzard could announce at BlizzCon 2023 that would immediately make you say, "yep, I'm done?"

I am such a hopeless wow addict that there would be a couple of bad themes in a row needed to make me quit. And I guess even then I would switch to cata classic or sth
But I could tell you what theme would make me "skip" the xpac: orcs

[DiscipleofCazicThule]

What is the ONE theme Blizzard could announce at BlizzCon 2023 that would immediately make you say, "yep, I'm done?"

I feel like any theme done well could be good, but the expansions without a new race or class always feel the weakest, imo.

[Nightshade711]

I feel like any theme done well could be good, but the expansions without a new race or class always feel the weakest, imo.

Agreed. Unfortunately unless they break the mold I don’t see either happening next xpac.
UNLESS it’s a race/class they’ve just happened to be working on for a while and just needed the right expansion to introduce. (I’d see this being the case for something like Naga tbh)

[Dracullus]

While there are valid arguments against some titles, the one for "it doesn't fit previous patterns" really just makes me laugh since I've seen that particular argument brought forward so many times for previous expansion title leaks.

"Cataclysm can't be the title, no expansion's had a single word title before." "Mists of Pandaria can't be the title, all previous expansions referenced the main threat!" "Battle for Azeroth sounds like a patch title/spinoff!" Etc.

Stormbreaker works as a title just fine.

It's not about patterns, it's just stupid name. Every other expansion title at least tell us something about it's theme or setting. People saw name of heroic mount and are not very imaginative, hence so many 'leaks' is storm that, storm this, stormbreaker, voidstorm xD.

[Well Done Steak]

Oh, right. Forgot those existed. I wouldn't mind having FC back.

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"Cataclysm" is self evident. It's an expansion about a cataclysmic event. Stormbreaker means nothing in isolation. Are we the stormbreaker? is the final boss <The Stormbreaker>? Is there a titan device called the Stormbreaker? Is it a metaphorical name referring to going beyond the ocean storms and there's no actual stormbreaking happening? It's a whole other level of meaninglessness.

Yup, don't see any reason why they can't be back. We're still aligned with the covenants and they're not really game breaking since they don't provide throughput.

If anything they could be the unempowered versions when not doing SL content

[Kiivar86]

It's not about patterns, it's just stupid name. Every other expansion title at least tell us something about it's theme or setting. People saw name of heroic mount and are not very imaginative, hence so many 'leaks' is storm that, storm this, stormbreaker, voidstorm xD.

I saw some others pull up the "doesn't fit previous expansion" argument, hence my bringing it up how I find it funny.

And I'd argue Stormbreaker does tell us something about the theme. There's a storm, we're breaking it, either by getting rid of it or going through it.

Now do I think its the title of it? Nah not really. But I think it'd work just fine.

[Teriz]

the Stormbreaker leak is really believable, i'm betting on this one!

That would be a first for Blizzard considering that the pre-purchase heroic edition mount is called Stormrider, and there's supposedly Storm Rider achievements attached to it. Typically the pre-purchase mount isn't named after the actual expansion title.

I'm also highly skeptical of the concept; We find yet another hidden continent that has titan and draconic leanings right after we left another hidden continent that has titan and draconic leanings....

[Imotbh]

Interesting tidbit from Wowhead in their latest post regarding the 10.2 campaign finale but even more so with this in mind https://i.gyazo.com/8967aab975629f26f7e5d0ec32944653.png.

It made me think of one of the "leaks" ("Eclipse" - the OP said he made it up but still, I couldn't help but think about it).

[Myrrh]

Interesting tidbit from Wowhead in their latest post regarding the 10.2 campaign finale but even more so with this in mind https://i.gyazo.com/8967aab975629f26f7e5d0ec32944653.png.

It made me think of one of the "leaks" ("Eclipse" - the OP said he made it up but still, I couldn't help but think about it).

moon dwarves back on the menu boissss /s

I think once we involved the Emerald Dream, and also knew that white Nelf set was planned for something, Elune involvement was pretty much a given. The dark moon texture Keyboardturn tweeted this morning is interesting in the context of the New Moon campaign questline. If I were a betting man...

[Kiivar86]

Interesting tidbit from Wowhead in their latest post regarding the 10.2 campaign finale but even more so with this in mind https://i.gyazo.com/8967aab975629f26f7e5d0ec32944653.png.

It made me think of one of the "leaks" ("Eclipse" - the OP said he made it up but still, I couldn't help but think about it).

I saw over on twitter there's an in game cutscene for a new moon and there are sentinels called "Sentinel of the New Moon".

May just also tie to the whole getting their power back thing.

edit: Also y'know, a glaive and a shield? Seems kinda paladin-y...

[Thomir]

Interesting tidbit from Wowhead in their latest post regarding the 10.2 campaign finale but even more so with this in mind https://i.gyazo.com/8967aab975629f26f7e5d0ec32944653.png.

It made me think of one of the "leaks" ("Eclipse" - the OP said he made it up but still, I couldn't help but think about it).

I think that's the exact same texture from the Ysera cinematic