Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Sondrelk]

Yeah I don't like another "Alliance becomes stupid so that Sylvanas 4D Chess moves work on them"

Admittedly it would have only made sense if BfA Sylvanas was actually competent, but hey.
Point is that I think I would prefer a really strong continuous raiding experience from a Stormwind raid, rather than Dazar'alor. At least from how I understood the Horde experience to be, the Alliance version flowed decently well I thought.

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A fucking Bloodfyre is in it after I brought up the Bloodfyre for the Void-style Shadowmoon being in the MU Horde on a lark. Regardless of anything else in the quest I am unspeakably erect and will never recover.

Living up to you name i hear...

[Varodoc]

Lol at the idea that the Horde could launch an attack on Stormwind itself during the Fourth War when the whole idea of "Divine and Conquer" strategy at the basis of Burning of Teldrassil was because Stormwind itself could never hope to be taken through military means.

[Skytotem]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/cosmeti...t-items-332030

Totem cape AND a totem weapon just for Tauren, both tribes

And fun note about the Orc heritage quest: your Orc canonically joins a clan of your choice!

Best part of the orc heritage quest is Jorin reappearing and planning to reunite his clan's Outland and Azeroth groups

[Nymrohd]

New Ebyssian is creepy.

[Nathanyel]

And then rage about it later when their vision doesn't happen or get mad at Blizzard. Its happened before.

Yep, that's what I mean. Speculating is fun, even coming up with your own headcanon, "how I would do it", but don't actually read too much into a zone teaser.

[Foolicious]

New Ebyssian is creepy.

Saw the datamined model and thought it was an undead tauren or necromancer. Love the new eyes, but the white face paint is a bit weird without his helmet.

[Varodoc]

Blizzard needs to redo the old Heritage Armour quests, it's criminal how Core races get full questlines through multiple zones and even cutscenes (for Humans and Orcs), while Void elves only get one quick quest from Alleria.

The funny thing is that an actual questline for the Ren'dorei Heritage Armour would present the opportunity to finally revisit Quel'Thalas, even if only in Scenario form, and could tell a story of divergences and reunification.

[Reive]

Blizzard needs to redo the old Heritage Armour quests, it's criminal how Core races get full questlines through multiple zones and even cutscenes (for Humans and Orcs), while Void elves only get one quick quest from Alleria.

The funny thing is that an actual questline for the Ren'dorei Heritage Armour would present the opportunity to finally revisit Quel'Thalas, even if only in Scenario form, and could tell a story of divergences and reunification.

I think it's fine if humans and orcs get more attention. Warcraft started with them.

[Kiivar86]

Finished the human heritage, nothing too earth shattering there. Still, nice enough. And I do like that its not just the red tint that has a robe but all three.

[Gurahk]

Durak is using a grown up orc model, which looks incredibly awkward next to his sister, who's slightly younger and uses the child model.
Orc puberty hit hard I guess.

[Varodoc]

I think it's fine if humans and orcs get more attention. Warcraft started with them.

I also played the Blood elf Heritage questline and they got an entire questline spanning through Eversong Woods, Ghostlands, and even an instanced scenario in the Sunwell.

I know that the Worgen Heritage questline takes them to an Emerald Dream version of Gilneas.

Meanwhile, all Allied races get for their Heritage armour is a turn-in quest to their racial leader. This is so unfair.

[Skytotem]

Durak is using a grown up orc model, which looks incredibly awkward next to his sister, who's slightly younger and uses the child model.
Orc puberty hit hard I guess.

They hit 'adulthood' at 10, so that sounds about right, even if the model could've used a little more work and... the voice just isn't that good, he sounds too... Smooth, for an orc.

[Cheezits]

Turalyon not appearing at all for the Human heritage quest is very funny, I assume it's a budget reason and not "lol he dies" because these are both very specific moments in time and not supposed to be evergreen events.

[Varodoc]

Turalyon not appearing at all for the Human heritage quest is very funny, I assume it's a budget reason and not "lol he dies" because these are both very specific moments in time and not supposed to be evergreen events.

Isn't that questline about the Defias and Onyxia? Given how Turalyon literally has 0 ties to these guys, it's not at all surprising. Turalyon unfortunately doesn't have a lot to contribute in that storyline, because he was already gone by the time Onyxia and the Defias entered the picture. He has no connection to the parties that were involved at the time.

Besides, that's the Heritage armour for STORMWIND humans, and Turalyon ultimately comes from Lordaeron. Blizzard might have felt like he didn't belong in a heritage questline centred around the Kingdom of STORMWIND.

[Nightshade711]

Next expansion we DEFO getting world revamp/tinkers/void vs light/etc.

Tbh as much as I would like tinkers… I highly doubt we’re gonna get a new class two expansions in a row…

Unless they’ve secretly had tinkers finished since BfA but just needed and expansion to put them in.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

Best part of the orc heritage quest is Jorin reappearing and planning to reunite his clan's Outland and Azeroth groups

Oh, Jorin's back? That's a nice development.

[Skytotem]

Oh, Jorin's back? That's a nice development.

EVERYBODY is back, the orc heritage chain reads like a wishlist of old orc characters, the only guy who didn't show up that I was hoping for was Oronok Torn Heart, but everyone else is there.

Ariok, Rexxar, Leoroxx, Gorgonna, Gorfax Angerfang has gone from being a nobody to having some decent lines even

[Nightmare Queen]

Krastinov's original story in Scholo from Strat wasn't horror to you? Or the constant screams on the way to Thaddius?

That's 100% horror imo. Nazmir and Drustvar were good horror zones. Granted I really hate horror, but they felt like it at least.

I don't remember Krastinov original story, I should read it up on wowpedia.
But the constant screaming is a nice addition I would say. Take Sanctum of Domination or Icecrown Citadel, you could hear screaming on a whole level of these raids but I was never felt stressed out by it. There is room for horror in wow but techniques should be adapted to make it work.

I think the only scenario that worked well on me in terms of horror was the ulna one where you are in very very dark forest, and black shades with glowing eyes are slowly coming towards you from all sides. At the same time you hear this little girl all afraid and whimping clinging to you for aid.

The other one I have in mind is not really horror but I was kind of stressed out by it, probably because it was the first time I didn't feel safe in wow. In zul farrak when you ring the gong, a horde if trolls appear and you have to push them off as they climb the pyramid. It was a good and stressful experience, but weirdly enough this one doesn't work at all today ^^

I don't remember hearing screaming in Icecrown? I should know, I've done it several times trying to get Invincible lol. I think you meant to say Naxxramas?
Also, guess I'll just skip Sanctum. No thanks.

Ugh, just hearing people scream stresses me out and gives me anxiety. Fuuuck that.

[Eeram]

Just finished the story part of Forbidden reach an it just came too me those Dragon flight armor sets that we are seeing are going to be Dracthyr Heritage armor of sorts i dont think its going to be a every race set

[Nathanyel]

Blizzard needs to redo the old Heritage Armour quests, it's criminal how Core races get full questlines through multiple zones and even cutscenes (for Humans and Orcs), while Void elves only get one quick quest from Alleria.

The equivalent for that is the actual unlock questline.

And in general, they can't just re-make older things/create new stuff every time something else gets a new shiny update.