Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[PotHockets]

I am surprised we don't have as many fake leaks anymore.

It just means when the real leak hits we'll dismiss it.

Either that or we already got it and it's somewhere in the trash pile

[Teriz]

This is the hottest hot take I've ever heard. Tinkers are in the game as Engineers. Bards are in the game but not playable at all.

Professions are the same as classes now? When did that happen?

We have faction leaders and races that are Tinkers. We also have an unexplored landmass (Undermine) where the Tinker's Union exists.

On the other hand, we have no one of any note that is a Bard, and we have no known location where Bards supposedly hail from.

[Nymrohd]

Let's not do the T-class thing again please?

[Paula Deen]

Professions are the same as classes now? When did that happen?

We have faction leaders and races that are Tinkers. We also have an unexplored landmass (Undermine) where the Tinker's Union exists. We have no one of any note that is a Bard, and we have no known location where Bards supposedly hail from.

There is literally two questlines in the game with bards now.

[justwatching]

Three different versions of WoW running at the same time is kind of crazy and would just split and shit up the community's already dwindling numbers even further.

There are 3 different versions running right now. And again the part of the playerbase that is primarily interested in vanilla isnt going to play Cata...you can argue they arent even playing wrath which is why they are still developing Vanilla. We'll just have to see what the scope of that is when they announce at Blizzcon

[Sebashtian]

They are posting an awful lot of music lately.

Clearly, they are teasing Bards!

Also Jaina, Thrall. Warcraft 3 characters? Both in the Alliance/Horde capital city or the area surrounding.

Might be reading into this a bit too much but if the next one is let's say Muradin or Malfurion or somesuch (Assuming they are alternating between Horde-Alliance) I am going to lean towards a true return to the old world for 11.0

[PotHockets]

Also Jaina, Thrall. Warcraft 3 characters? Both in the Alliance/Horde capital city or the area surrounding.

Might be reading into this a bit too much but if the next one is let's say Muradin or Malfurion or somesuch (Assuming they are alternating between Horde-Alliance) I am going to lean towards a true return to the old world for 11.0

The hints and coincidences are all there for a revamp expansion I just dont think anyone actually wants to get their hopes up for it.

[Hitei]

Also Jaina, Thrall. Warcraft 3 characters? Both in the Alliance/Horde capital city or the area surrounding.

Might be reading into this a bit too much but if the next one is let's say Muradin or Malfurion or somesuch (Assuming they are alternating between Horde-Alliance) I am going to lean towards a true return to the old world for 11.0

I dunno why you'd do that when WC3 characters appear all the time in expansions not located in EK/Kalimdor.

- - - Updated - - -

The hints and coincidences are all there for a revamp expansion I just dont think anyone actually wants to get their hopes up for it.

They really aren't.

[Teriz]

There is literally two questlines in the game with bards now.

Which means nothing. Classes are based on warcraft hero characters and giving the players playable versions of those heroes, not random questlines.

Arthas/Lich King >> Death Knights
Chen Stormstout >> Monks
Illidan Stormrage >> Demon Hunters
Alexstraza/Kalecgos/Nozdormu/etc. >> Evokers
Gazlowe/Mekkatorque >> Tinkers

????? >> Bards

Hence the problem.

[Paula Deen]

Which means nothing. Classes are based on warcraft hero characters and giving the players playable versions of those heroes, not random questlines.

Arthas/Lich King >> Death Knights
Chen Stormstout >> Monks
Illidan Stormrage >> Demon Hunters
Alexstraza/Kalecgos/Nozdormu/etc. >> Evokers
Gazlowe >> Tinkers

????? >> Bards

Hence the problem.

ETC???? 10char

[Raetary]

Christ almighty.

Can't even jokingly mention bards anymore without the tinker brigade marching in.

[huth]

ETC???? 10char

That doesn't support Teriz' point, thus it isn't real. You know the drill.

[Sebashtian]

The hints and coincidences are all there for a revamp expansion I just dont think anyone actually wants to get their hopes up for it.

Getting hopes up might not be a good idea I think. It's fun to speculate though \o/

I dunno why you'd do that when WC3 characters appear all the time in expansions not located in EK/Kalimdor.

Main reason this sort of gets my attention is the amount of updated models datamined over the past months or even year, and they seem to be focusing on two very key characters from Warcraft 3 specifically for these Blizzcon Promo music videos so far, which is what they are. It's true that characters from WC3 appear a lot in places that's not EK/Kalimdor, I do however think this is quite on the nose a focus on "home" from these videos.


That being said it is probably just generic music promos, but a man can dream

[Teriz]

ETC???? 10char

The ETC is a parody of a heavy metal band full of Blizzard employees. I'm not even sure he actually exists in the lore, because he's never participated in any major event in the history of the game.

[PotHockets]

Which means nothing. Classes are based on warcraft hero characters and giving the players playable versions of those heroes, not random questlines.

Arthas/Lich King >> Death Knights
Chen Stormstout >> Monks
Illidan Stormrage >> Demon Hunters
Alexstraza/Kalecgos/Nozdormu/etc. >> Evokers
Gazlowe/Mekkatorque >> Tinkers

????? >> Bards

Hence the problem.

It's weird that you're going with Gazlowe for a Tinker and not the super obvious layup of Mekkatorque.

Also ETC exists.

Jk you edited Mekkatorque before I could respond lmao

[Samin]

Which means nothing. Classes are based on warcraft hero characters and giving the players playable versions of those heroes, not random questlines.

Arthas/Lich King >> Death Knights
Chen Stormstout >> Monks
Illidan Stormrage >> Demon Hunters
Alexstraza/Kalecgos/Nozdormu/etc. >> Evokers
Gazlowe/Mekkatorque >> Tinkers

????? >> Bards

Hence the problem.

The dragons/evoker connection is pretty weak at least in the sense of getting "playable versions of those heroes". It's really not the same fantasy at all. Imo Evokers are proof new classes don't need to be rooted in the old RTS heroes.

[ZyntosAran]

The ETC is a parody of a heavy metal band full of Blizzard employees. I'm not even sure he actually exists in the lore, because he's never participated in any major event in the history of the game.

ETC has as much "Lore" as Chen had before MoP

[Wangming]

I swear, if we get something like bards before Tinkers, devs clearly hate the IP they’re developing for. Or simply have no passion for what is Warcraft.

Bard is an iconic staple fantasy classes. Tinker, not necessarily.

[Ersula]

ETC???? 10char

He's spent hundreds of pages trying to deny ETC exists. Instead I'd just press him that the aspects are emphatically not Evokers.

We have faction leaders and races that are Tinkers. We also have an unexplored landmass (Undermine) where the Tinker's Union exists.

Because it's a profession, not a form of combat. A tinker builds the mech, he doesn't necessarily drive it. Some people just happen to do both.

On the other hand, we have no one of any note that is a Bard, and we have no known location where Bards supposedly hail from.

Everywhere. The Answer is they're from everywhere.

Blizzard thinks they're sly making an entire instrument animation but using an extremely old instrument model. That won't throw me off their spoony scent.

[Wangming]

ETC has as much "Lore" as Chen had before MoP

And we all know how Pandaren lore developed later. Following your analogy we could very well get a a gigantic bard themed continent.