Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Reive]

Or more likely, it's as fake as everything else here.

Sure, this guy has posted something real before. Which only gives more credibility when he comes out with VERY OBVIOUS FAKES, riding the coattails of his previous success. Come on, you're just seeing what you want to see.

scaleface himself admitted that these leaks could be fake. people are just speculating

[Nathanyel]

https://www.icy-veins.com/forums/top...blizzcon-2023/

I'm afraid it's over for Classic+ bros...

I saw that shirt and was "meh." but now that you reframe this as dunking on Classic+ bros, I might buy it...

I always saw light lord.rag as an AU boss fight in an infinite raid. But given recent circumstances I doubt that'll happen

What about occasional "incursions" of alternate timeline enemies across the world? Time Rifts on a global scale? Hearthstone and HotS already provided several "What If?" variants of iconic Warcraft characters, which would be enemies or allies.

These could be a recurring weekly event or tied to Timewalking, with a bigger edition for the Anniversary.

This. The theme of Post-Legion WoW is No Gods, No Master, Only Man... and maybe Elune, if she's cool.

WOTLK seeded the idea that Titans may have their own thing going on, and post-Legion has been about "hey maybe we shouldn't be just Titan slaves". DF just made it very obvious with the overt tyranny of Odyn in the lore book (his shittyness was apparent in the Chronicles) and the seeds that maybe Tyr is shitty too.

In addition to this, I'm rather interpreting the ingame hints as signs that the Dragons fear what the Titan Keepers would do if they strayed from the Titan-assigned path, instead of that players should think "Order is evil".
But other than Odyn, I doubt the Keepers would care much, especially Tyr, unless the Dragons actively opposed them.

DF lore is safe and fine. Its not good or bad. Its bland. Hopefully they are willing to take some risks with 11.0 now that Daddy Chris is steering the SS Storytime.

Dout that Metzen will have a very active role in storywriting. He's gonna be an advisor to bounce ideas off, he'll give feedback. But there are no signs he dislikes the current direction. He's not gonna be a grumpy old exec calling for "the old ways" to return.

The new lore with the six main cosmic forces and the first ones doesn't hurt wow lore in itself. You just need to handle it carefully. Stuff like Zereth Mortis is way too close to those overarching powers, but having these different pantheons/forces opens up a lot of possibilities for future storylines and mysteres. just keep them more in the background and not the forefront of it.

I've been saying since then that the First Ones and especially the "Seventh Force" sounds not like actual setup of near-future developments, but a replacement for the 'demystified' Titans and other cosmic things. We'll see references here and there, but whatever Zovaal feared, it won't happen until maybe the very last WoW expansion.

Green WQ may have the Green Piece of Gear or Weapon depicted.

The addon World Quest Tracker does that, it shows icons corresponding to the reward on the map, e.g. the actual item icon for gear, plus amounts for currencies/reputation, instead of the default question mark. This is indeed something that should be integrated into the default UI.

[Wangming]

Or more likely, it's as fake as everything else here.

Sure, this guy has posted something real before. Which only gives more credibility when he comes out with VERY OBVIOUS FAKES, riding the coattails of his previous success. Come on, you're just seeing what you want to see.

Except he did not post them cause even he is not sure if they are legit so you are being a dick to him for literally no reason.

[keelr]

Has the picture posted by scaleface on twitter on august 30th discussed yet? Looks like smth from a cineamtic,

[Melorandor]

I think its a given that 11.0 is going try go for this kind of vibe. At least from 22mage22 and other leakers, combined

[Sebashtian]

Players: Can we have Wildhammer dwarves as their own race like Dark Irons?

Blizzard: How about earthen who act like dwarves?

Players: How about wildhammer dwarves instead?

Blizzard: Oh, or taller dwarves made of stones?

Players: We want wildhammer dwarves

Blizzard: Or storm dwarves

Players: W-I-L-D-H-A-M-M-E_R

Blizzard: Dwarves afflicted by the worgen curse?

The most unique Dwarves in the setting barely getting any attention since Cataclysm, while the Clan who destroyed their city and has been an evil force for 80% of WoW having more of an active story in the Alliance than the literal first Dwarven Clan to join up with that Alliance while Ironforge was besieged by the Horde is TRULY a mindboggling thing to me.

It's FLYING DWARVES. They have been around for AGES and all we get is 4 tattoo options and a couple of feathers behind the ears????

[keelr]

The other picture was the good ol’ World of Warcraft logo but without any text. Unlike previous years where colors got a little boring (mostly just black n’ white), this logo was vivid blue.

This could be some kind of classic+? A new vendor patch 1.15 appeared, so we might see smth new for classic era also and the "vivid blue" is the original color of the WoW logo.

[Nathanyel]

It's FLYING DWARVES. They have been around for AGES and all we get is 4 tattoo options and a couple of feathers behind the ears????

But Wildhammers are physically identical to Bronzebeards. I agree that there should be some more customization and possibly a transmog set, but we don't need a separate playable race.

[Lahis]

Players: Can we have Wildhammer dwarves as their own race like Dark Irons?

Blizzard: How about earthen who act like dwarves?

Players: How about wildhammer dwarves instead?

Blizzard: Oh, or taller dwarves made of stones?

Players: We want wildhammer dwarves

Blizzard: Or storm dwarves

Players: W-I-L-D-H-A-M-M-E_R

Blizzard: Dwarves afflicted by the worgen curse?

Dwarves already got Wildhammer customization. They don't need a full neglected race slot to get what they already have.

[Zers Editor]

Would be cool for Vyranoth's incursion to shame Odyn back as a Prime Designate.

[Merryck]

I think its a given that 11.0 is going try go for this kind of vibe. At least from 22mage22 and other leakers, combined

Profoundly based.

[Kalontas]

Except he did not post them cause even he is not sure if they are legit so you are being a dick to him for literally no reason.

He posted them, just not on MMO-Champion.
"Oh whoops, look what fell out of my pocket. Totally not a leak. Might be fake! Don't look at it, it's just... laying there for everyone to see."

[Skildar]

Dwarves already got Wildhammer customization. They don't need a full neglected race slot to get what they already have.

That's one unfortunate part of the dwarves. Having the wildhammer customization pushed onto bronzebeard dwarves

[Teriz]

Mr.Scaleface can i ask do you actually know the next expansion?

Ahhh shit i just looked at Scaleface Past post as of Recent. He said they had 4 items being prepared Shadowlands(shadowlands) Dragons(Dragonflight) LightVsVoid and underground.
With that being said i think LightVsVoid Might actually be whats up next. With us heading towards Khaz Algar For Pre patch.
i could see us following Iridikron to it or something where Xal'atath body is an we find goblins putting plates on her body which they finish right befor we get there then BAM cinematic She comes flying out of the Facility Void spilling everywhere she flys through the zones Remaking them Killing nature spilling void everywhere then she lands on Org an thats the end of the cinematic... GREAT MORE COSMIC STUFF ALREADY

If those 4 items are true, underground makes more sense for 11.0 than light vs void, since we have Thrall on key art, Khaz Algar is more likely an underground zone, Iridikron being an earth-based dragon, Zalarek Caverns, and Toweliee hinting at an underground expansion. Blizzard has recently had expansions bleed into each other, and going underground is a more natural progression of Dragonflight's story than a cosmic expansion.

[Nymrohd]

This image is super cool, but also quite emblematic of how weirdly Blizzard treats dragons in Dragonflight.
I could probably count on one hand the number of times I've seen the Aspects using their proper dragon forms this expansion, except for when they're idling in Valdrakken.

They are sadly mostly elves that once in a while shapeshift into dragons than the inverse.

[Lahis]

That's one unfortunate part of the dwarves. Having the wildhammer customization pushed onto bronzebeard dwarves

Wildhammer dwarves are not even a different race. They just have slightly different fashion than Bronzebeards.

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This image is super cool, but also quite emblematic of how weirdly Blizzard treats dragons in Dragonflight.
I could probably count on one hand the number of times I've seen the Aspects using their proper dragon forms this expansion, except for when they're idling in Valdrakken.

Blizzard is too afraid to animate dragons so they turned them into elves.

[Nightshade711]

Mr.Scaleface can i ask do you actually know the next expansion?

Ahhh shit i just looked at Scaleface Past post as of Recent. He said they had 4 items being prepared Shadowlands(shadowlands) Dragons(Dragonflight) LightVsVoid and underground.
With that being said i think LightVsVoid Might actually be whats up next. With us heading towards Khaz Algar For Pre patch.
i could see us following Iridikron to it or something where Xal'atath body is an we find goblins putting plates on her body which they finish right befor we get there then BAM cinematic She comes flying out of the Facility Void spilling everywhere she flys through the zones Remaking them Killing nature spilling void everywhere then she lands on Org an thats the end of the cinematic... GREAT MORE COSMIC STUFF ALREADY

Don’t forget that these were datamined, but we still haven’t seen anything from them yet.


Clearly light vs void if these are indeed related to next xpac (and/or prepatch) and slipped through the cracks.

Or alternatively they could also be for a dragonflight epilogue to put us into next expansion, like how Legion did it.

[Azalar]

Don’t forget that these were datamined, but we still haven’t seen anything from them yet.


Clearly light vs void if these are indeed related to next xpac (and/or prepatch) and slipped through the cracks.

I'm curious about the source, if possible please

[Nightshade711]

I'm curious about the source, if possible please

I forgot who found it first, might’ve been the birdman?
But there’s a Wowhead article on it.

https://www.wowhead.com/news/new-dar...breaker-334132

However now that we did the Draenei quest, we’ve seen that none of those NPCs were there so Wowhead’s speculation on them was wrong.

I also think the models are placeholders for the real thing which I think makes sense if they were intended for way later. (Like next xpac/prepatch/DF Epilogue)

[Azalar]

I forgot who found it first, might’ve been the birdman?
But there’s a Wowhead article on it.

https://www.wowhead.com/news/new-dar...breaker-334132

However now that we did the Draenei quest, we’ve seen that none of those NPCs were there so Wowhead’s speculation on them was wrong.

I also think the models are placeholders for the real thing which I think makes sense if they were intended for way later. (Like next xpac/prepatch/DF Epilogue)

Thanks!

That's quite strange tbh