Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[PotHockets]

The metadata that did leak could very plausibly be what said YouTuber is looking at in his video. If it isn't, that is a lot of work to come up with in that short amount of time, especially considering some things did actually leak.

I don't know how familiar you are with how D4 filea are arranged but is that something that could be in release D4 as a file that someone could go into and just add some lines here or there relatively quick?

[Nightshade711]

That's what people on this very forum speculated because of the variety of NPCs. I don't think there's much more about it for now but I don't remember every detail that was said on the topic.

Probably because they’re focused too much on the (likely placeholder) models.

I don’t see anything tying those encounters/NPCs to the brawler’s guild, as I don’t see any brawler’s guild NPCs in the DungeonEncounter.db

[PotHockets]

That would sync up with the D4 leak being posted here on the 17th. It looks like D4 reflection is a private server that is currently in beta being developed by a hacker group. @Marlamin Do you think they could realistically crack Blizzard's encryption?

Even by their own admission they didn't actually have to crack it again they supposedly just used the original D4 alpha keys to do it. So that would definitely save a ton of time.

[Catastrophy349]

still no interesting features. it's more dungeons, renown and raids

Yeah, Blizzard can't win here, can they? The WoW community will NEVER be happy with anything they announce.

[Marlamin]

That would sync up with the D4 leak being posted here on the 17th. It looks like D4 reflection is a private server that is currently in beta being developed by a hacker group. @Marlamin Do you think they could realistically crack Blizzard's encryption?

Nobody really cracked anything, the key was available to a select few a few years ago and hasn't been regenerated since. The encrypted expansion data that came with the release will likely stay encrypted unless someone also had a license to log onto a server for the expansion with, which would have given them the other (new) keys as well, which I doubt would be up/public.

I don't know how familiar you are with how D4 filea are arranged but is that something that could be in release D4 as a file that someone could go into and just add some lines here or there relatively quick?

No clue, you'd have to ask someone who cares about D4 datamining, I only commented on the stuff that was generic enough (encryption/CDN stuff) so I know about it from the WoW side of things.

[Reive]

Yeah, Blizzard can't win here, can they? The WoW community will NEVER be happy with anything they announce.

they can't win with me ahah i just want new features

[Baraden]

I wish it would be Rokhan and he gets his custom model that looks like him from Warcraft 3

Rokhan is the same VA as Bayek from Assassin's Creed; genuinely one of the most distinctive voices in the industry - plus like you said, Rokhan has been in the universe for years, I'd love to see some more development for him

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Looking at the leak Sheet we have this https://imgur.com/a/zusZOIQ the "Secrets of Azeroth" leak.
Credits to Ercarp
I remember that there was another one called "Shadows of Azeroth", but i could not find the link.

God I hope this is it

[Chickat]

I certainly expect quite a few of the current Classic players to step out or go back to Era or PServers but I just meant that I suspect most of them will be replaced by the people that don't care about Vanilla - Wrath and are just waiting for the Cata/MoP/Not(WoD) You/Legion cycle to jump in.

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They need to leave them hard. Personally up until M+ existed no era for dungeons hit as good as the launch heroics did until they did that thing where they listen to out of game feedback instead of the people actually playing. If they're in there nerfed then it would remove a large chunk of the nostalgia for the Cata enjoyers.

Imo leave them hard until Firelands and then nerf base heroics while adding harder Titanrune dungeons.

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Classic WoD has the benefit of being able to make it shorter. Just announce it, but also state it's only going to last a single year before you release Classic Legion.

We are only 5 years away from Legion again.

My mind may change, but without heavy changes, Legion is probably the last classic xpac im interested in.

Although I was flying around Zuldazar yesterday after finally picking up my free Pterodax mount and it was nice to be back. BFA was very atmospheric.

[Marlamin]

@Marlamin
Have there been any updates to these entries (or the associated maps) recently?

No, that MapID (1963) is also (very) old, being made somewhere during BfA development so either it's someone messing around with something old, something that has been in the works for a long time or some reuse of an old MapID. The map (dungeon really) has 4 difficulties, Normal (available from level 10-60), Heroic/Mythic (level 50) and M+ at level 70. Notable is that the M+ content tuning ID is shared with DF dungeons from Uldaman through Halls of Infusion, so this might be something that potentially comes out during DF still if it isn't some abandoned dev experiment that made its way into the files, which happens, no way to tell if it's really 'something'.

[Chickat]

Three different versions of WoW running at the same time is kind of crazy and would just split and shit up the community's already dwindling numbers even further.

Theres already 3. 4 if you count hardcore.

It could potentially be 5 or 6 if classic+ is a thing which is crazy.

[Nightshade711]

No, that MapID (1963) is also (very) old, being made somewhere during BfA development so either it's someone messing around with something old, something that has been in the works for a long time or some reuse of an old MapID. The map (dungeon really) has 4 difficulties, Normal (available from level 10-60), Heroic/Mythic (level 50) and M+ at level 70. Notable is that the M+ content tuning ID is shared with DF dungeons from Uldaman through Halls of Infusion, so this might be something that potentially comes out during DF still if it isn't some abandoned dev experiment that made its way into the files, which happens, no way to tell if it's really 'something'.

That is interesting. Wonder why Wowhead thought the map wasn’t added in the database, then.

[Cheezits]

What did I miss? SOA is legit?

[Marlamin]

That is interesting. Wonder why Wowhead thought the map wasn’t added in the database, then.

It hasn't, but it does have difficulty references which they missed.

[Cheezits]

No, that MapID (1963) is also (very) old, being made somewhere during BfA development so either it's someone messing around with something old, something that has been in the works for a long time or some reuse of an old MapID. The map (dungeon really) has 4 difficulties, Normal (available from level 10-60), Heroic/Mythic (level 50) and M+ at level 70. Notable is that the M+ content tuning ID is shared with DF dungeons from Uldaman through Halls of Infusion, so this might be something that potentially comes out during DF still if it isn't some abandoned dev experiment that made its way into the files, which happens, no way to tell if it's really 'something'.

Oh, sounds like Vakthros honestly. What other dungeon could appear in 10.2.5? Khadgar needs a purpose after all.

While it still sounds more like Brawlers Guild, I could see a Titan/Coldarra/Nexus themed dungeon having a Light, Void and Devourer themed boss. Especially if Blizz wants to remind players of the Devourers being a threat after SL.

[flan1337]

https://twitter.com/keyboardturn/sta...71557227896834

That's pretty much it.

whoa that is an old post. Is that live right now in game? So odd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEspeHoJLLM video of it without the purple rip Hayven Games

[Marlamin]

Oh, sounds like Vakthros honestly. What other dungeon could appear in 10.2.5? Khadgar needs a purpose after all.

While it still sounds more like Brawlers Guild, I could see a Titan/Coldarra themed dungeon having a Light, Void and Devourer themed boss.

I mean, that would mean Vakthros would've been developed before they even started work on Shadowlands. MapID reuse is possible, but something they've very rarely done (let alone for anything important like a dungeon). Unless that is the case (unlikely), it can't be Vakthros.

[Woggmer]

Looking at the leak Sheet we have this https://imgur.com/a/zusZOIQ the "Secrets of Azeroth" leak.
Credits to Ercarp
I remember that there was another one called "Shadows of Azeroth", but i could not find the link.

As much as I'm on team revamp and want one badly... I don't trust this.
Mythic+ for old dungeons is a dead give-away for it being fake. Blizz has stated that they can't do Mythic+ on old dungeons because they play so differently than what modern dungeons do nowadays. Not unless they fully revamped some of them or create entirely new dungeons based within the old dungeons...

[Cheezits]

I mean, that would mean Vakthros would've been developed before they even started work on Shadowlands. MapID reuse is possible, but something they've very rarely done (let alone for anything important like a dungeon). Unless that is the case (unlikely), it can't be Vakthros.

If it's that old then it sounds like Brawlers Guild and they are taking their sweet sweet time on it because it's going to be permanent (per dev interviews).

So is SOA legit? Honestly its 50/50 Shadow and Secret then. Shadow is more likely as it has been referenced as a filename this year.

[Nightshade711]

If it's that old then it sounds like Brawlers Guild and they are taking their sweet sweet time on it because it's going to be permanent (per dev interviews).

So is SOA legit? Honestly its 50/50 Shadow and Secret then.

Brawler’s guild wouldn’t be a dungeon, nor would it have the different difficulties like the dungeons.

[Cheezits]

Brawler’s guild wouldn’t be a dungeon, nor would it have the different difficulties like the dungeons.

Really? Says who?