Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[GhostFish]

Leak drought, plus two unreliable things that could conceivably work together making people go 'whoa this must be it!!1' because they're desperate for something to show up.

Honestly after having another squiz at ercarp's list, anything with a grain of believability has already been debunked from other avenues such as the HS expansion. I'm not sure the real deal is out there, yet.

What's unbelievable or debunkable about the first "Eclipse" from July?

[Chickat]

Wait, the tinker fans and the bard fans are fighting? lol

Both classes are equally (un)likely. That is, I'd love to see both, and I do not expect either.

"But we have engineers." We also have blacksmiths, and no one in their right mind would claim we can't have warriors because we already have characters who can make weapons. Engineers make gadgets, tinkers make their whole playstyle around it. Mech suits, or mechanical arms, or turrets. You can easily build several classes around the theme of technology, without infringing on engineering territory at all. Besides the very reductive "uuh, tech?"

Bards are a common fantasy staple with very faint Warcraft precedent, much like monks before MoP. Yes, there were brewmasters, but until MoP popped up and made up the whole lore about chi and the fighting style that fit D&D monks more than the shamanic drunk brewmasters from prior lore, there were no monks. I'd have sooner expected runemasters, which were originally supposed to be the Warcraft monk.
And as for bards themselves - we already have characters who use music and magic (and magic music) to give you buffs and other effects. It really isn't hard to come up with something and make it fit into the lore without retconning anything. And with the current writing team's motto apparently being "there's no lore mistakes, we'll just pretend the mistake was always the lore"... it can definitely happen.

Imo tinker is complex enough for 2 or 3 specs.

Bard technically could have that many I suppose but i would prefer they just add it as a rogue support spec.

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Friendly reminder that the evidence suggests the Algarian Stormrider is a dragonriding capable mount.

So its either a dragon or gryphon 95%

I dont see them adding DR animations unless its a weird shaped elemental.

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Id take everything over Avaloren tbh.
'Visiting every old continet in a wilde ride' Expansion
K'aresh expansion
'All events take place on Revamped Azeroth' expansion
But not visit another island with close to zero weight in comparison to all other isles.

Everything but not Avaloren and Elemental Expansion. Fed up with elementals. They are in Onaharan, grinded to death for WQ and quest. They are in Wakin Shores, they are in Azure whatever. They are in every raid.

And they were BORING.

I have a feeling that you are going to be disappointed. Its probably Avaloren AND Elements.

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"IF" a "leak" does happen prior to BlizzCon, I hope that it is something so "minor" that we can speculate a ton about, yet isn't enough to spoil the announcements of BlizzCon either.

Yeah, a texture file like the Tidesage cloth leak before BFA would be perfect.

[22mage22]

some people private messaged about specs.
i dont know if shamans getting one. because all race get shamans i thought yes, but instead we get is demon hunters spec that is like evoker but melee with glaives but middle ranged sycthe spells. instead of eating souls you torment them.

[Hitei]

some people private messaged about specs.
i dont know if shamans getting one. because all race get shamans i thought yes, but instead we get is demon hunters spec that is like evoker but melee with glaives but middle ranged sycthe spells. instead of eating souls you torment them.

The way you phrased it earlier, is Khaz Algar on a new continent? Like the expansion is like Cata, a (partial) revamp + new zones?

[22mage22]

The way you phrased it earlier, is Khaz Algar on a new continent? Like the expansion is like Cata, a (partial) revamp + new zones?

algar is under the ground of the EK. its like cata though. like zaralek but deeper and far away

[Cheezits]

algar is under the ground of the EK. its like cata though. like zaralek but deeper and far away

So it's in the EK but it's far away from the EK. ok

[Hitei]

algar is under the ground of the EK. its like cata though. like zaralek but deeper and far away

But what is it? Just a city? A city and a zone? Five zones with a new capital city?

[Ambulatory Cube]

So it's in the EK but it's far away from the EK. ok

I'm assuming this means that lorewise its under EK, but mapwise its in a chunk somewhere else, much like Zaralek's map isn't actually "below" the Dragon Isles, it's physically somewhere else and the server yeets us to it when we cross the zone border.

[22mage22]

So it's in the EK but it's far away from the EK. ok

its far away and unlike EK. deep deep down

But what is it? Just a city? A city and a zone? Five zones with a new capital city?

city and zone.

[Hitei]

I'm assuming this means that lorewise its under EK, but mapwise its in a chunk somewhere else, much like Zaralek's map isn't actually "below" the Dragon Isles, it's physically somewhere else and the server yeets us to it when we cross the zone border.

Cheezits' point is that yesterday they specifically "far away from [EK] underground deep", which feels inconsistent with it just being very deep directly under them.

[huth]

Cheezits' point is that yesterday they specifically "far away from [EK] underground deep", which feels inconsistent with it just being very deep directly under them.

The bigger issue is that the ingame book specifies it's far away both spatially and temporally from where the Dwarves turned up. Which means it's far away lorewise, not mechanically.

[22mage22]

algar is shown as very deep and far from EK. like zaralek but super speed dragonflying

[Hitei]

The bigger issue is that the ingame book specifies it's far away both spatially and temporally from where the Dwarves turned up. Which means it's far away lorewise, not mechanically.

Yeah, I also find it pretty suspect. Them being even deeper directly under Uldaman doesn't make much sense with the watchers being confused about similar symptoms as the Dwarves far away.

[huth]

algar is shown as very deep and far from EK. like zaralek but super speed dragonflying

Zaralek is lorewise directly below Ohn'ara Plains. Your story doesn't add up.

[Teriz]

So its either a dragon or gryphon 95%

I dont see them adding DR animations unless its a weird shaped elemental.

Potentially an elemental beast, much like the flame owl that drops from mythic Fyrakk.

[22mage22]

zaralek entrance is small, algar entrance goes down very far. hard for me to explain without showing. like going down to the center.

[Hitei]

zaralek entrance is small, algar entrance goes down very far. hard for me to explain without showing. like going down to the center.

What's stopping you from showing it? If you're telling the truth you've already identified yourself as someone with actual information.

I don't see why they'd revamp EK and add a single detached zone.

[Yus atath]

We are DEFINITELY going cosmic again within the few upcoming expansions (perhaps even in 11.0). I mean DF introduced us to “cosmic void”. So yeah, just accept it lol

[Cheezits]

Are all the new races from EK zones or also new ones?

[22mage22]

What's stopping you from showing it? If you're telling the truth you've already identified yourself as someone with actual information.

I don't see why they'd revamp EK and add a single detached zone.

cant say much.
lands of conflicts revamps are like broken isles and algar is like suramar. algar is shown to be very very deep and far when going to it. hope this makes sense.