Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Gigantique]

If it weren’t for the datamining I might a bit more skeptical now, but it lines up.

My theory is that, if the dungeon is still planned to be made/added, that it’ll introduce it to us for next expansion. (Prepatch dungeon OR 10.2.5/7 epilogue dungeon).

The boss names being “Light Knight”, “Dimension Breaker”, and “The Devourer” point to it obviously light vs void.
Don’t see why the “Light Knight” would be hostile to us during a void invasion, it’d probably try and help us. Maybe it’s a healing boss like in the BfA snake dungeon?

Could also be a NPC that helps us but gets corrupted in some way

[Catastrophy349]

We got Thrall, the Algarian Stormrider, Khaz Algar, Storm Rider achievements, Avaloren surrounded by storms, a pet named Squally, and Toweliee talking about caves and scarabs.

How people are still bringing up the possibility of a void expansion, I have no idea.

So, what is your guess for what's next (11.0)? To add to this question, I am asking you in the context of RIGHT NOW (since you have had multiple theories/suggestions over several weeks).

[vintage79]

challenge: 3000 pages till blizzcon

[Eeram]

So, what is your guess for what's next (11.0)? To add to this question, I am asking you in the context of RIGHT NOW (since you have had multiple theories/suggestions over several weeks).

i swear it was just yesterday when he was putting his tinfoil hat on screaming about Light Vs Void an YREL SHES COMING

[Nokster10]

i swear it was just yesterday when he was putting his tinfoil hat on screaming about Light Vs Void an YREL SHES COMING

He has a new bulletproof theory every week. He knows for sure its not void this time, like he knew for sure its Tinker in DF

[Catastrophy349]

I'll be honest, as excited as I am for BlizzCon, the buildup prior to the event/news is so exhilarating! Once the news is out, that's that. However, we do get to speculate more with actual information, then.

[Northelim]

We got Thrall, the Algarian Stormrider, Khaz Algar, Storm Rider achievements, Avaloren surrounded by storms, a pet named Squally, and Toweliee talking about caves and scarabs.

How people are still bringing up the possibility of a void expansion, I have no idea.

You won't be be seeing a dedicated void expansion until 13.0. 12.0 will be another faction war and 11.0 is most likely elemental themed.

[Polybius]

If it weren’t for the datamining I might a bit more skeptical now, but it lines up.

My theory is that, if the dungeon is still planned to be made/added, that it’ll introduce it to us for next expansion. (Prepatch dungeon OR 10.2.5/7 epilogue dungeon).

The boss names being “Light Knight”, “Dimension Breaker”, and “The Devourer” point to it obviously light vs void.
Don’t see why the “Light Knight” would be hostile to us during a void invasion, it’d probably try and help us. Maybe it’s a healing boss like in the BfA snake dungeon?

It could be for 12.0. I recall the Faerie transmog tie-in and the Galakrond map being datamined at least a year or two prior. 5.4/6.0 time-travel assets existed during 5.0, they do plan ahead.

[KurtMash]

So, what is your guess for what's next (11.0)? To add to this question, I am asking you in the context of RIGHT NOW (since you have had multiple theories/suggestions over several weeks).

Not Teriz, but here's my take: I think that 11.0 will be to Void expansion the same thing WoD was to Legion. There were demons, and eventually it ended with a demon raid, but was not a "demon expansion". Legion was the "demon expansion".

Same thing here. 11.0 will almost certainly have Void in it, but it's not gonna be a "void expansion". We may go underground, with some elemental and Titan shenanigans, perhaps we kill void-infused Iridikron as the final boss. And then 11.0 ends with a bang, and 12.0 is a straight-up void expac.

[Teriz]

So, what is your guess for what's next (11.0)? To add to this question, I am asking you in the context of RIGHT NOW (since you have had multiple theories/suggestions over several weeks).

The same one I’ve had since mid-September: Elements and underground.

[pacotaco]

No, they were explicitly put there by design of the First Ones. Probably some sort of garbage collection method.



Looks less like mutation and more like falling apart. They clearly weren't made to handle that stuff.

Nope, they're definitely mutated. They look like they're becoming more conceptual, like the "pseudo-life" in that zone. They even start to show patterns on the skin.


If you look closely, you can even see that they're inquiring the same coloration that some of them:

[Raetary]

They literally are falling apart, pieces of themselves are broken and missing.

And Blizzard explicitly told us that they are falling apart because they are consuming Zereth Mortis's energies.

[Woggmer]

kinda tinfoil-hatish but ... why did they decided to give us classic scarlet monastry NOW? Kinda funny that some objects are HD though, for example the lions xD

imo this is a weird moment and also will they do this more often? did they understand that many classic dungeons are simply better dungeon design? (no I am not a classic fan, just played since the beginning, still prefer retail)

I did refute this a few pages ago, but they're not going to update some of the older dungeons to go with Mythic+ but the dungeons that have been revamped like Scholomance, Scarlet Monastery (and Scarlet Halls), Deadmines, Shadowfang Keep, Upper Blackrock Spire, Blackfathom Deeps, Razorfen Kraul and Razorfen Downs.. all have the potential to be made into Mythic+ dungeons should Blizz choose to.

(Stormwind Stockades and Ragefire Chasm were revamped as well, but they're too short and easy for Mythic+ and both entrances are within the major cities so people of the opposing faction can't do one or the other.)

I should mention this bit but in the Forsaken Heritage armor quest despite the fact that the Forsaken got rid of a good chunk of the Scarlet Crusade's forces, a few of the members especially some big important named ones managed to escape. Crusader Alrick (Champion of the Argent Dawn) and Inquisitor Fairbell...including a Huntsmen who escaped as well. Alrick also said this quote, "At your side, my lady!" to Fairbell, as if the two are planned to be replacements for Mograine and Whitemane in the Scarlet Monastery.

I don't know... but it does seem like Blizz is giving the Scarlet Crusade a bit of attention lately.

[Baraden]

We got Thrall, the Algarian Stormrider, Khaz Algar, Storm Rider achievements, Avaloren surrounded by storms, a pet named Squally, and Toweliee talking about caves and scarabs.

How people are still bringing up the possibility of a void expansion, I have no idea.

Because plenty of expansions have shifted themes throughout expansion

Also more importantly; none of what you've listed proves anything - we won't know until Blizzcon, and this is a speculation thread

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Here's a question

Does anyone actually WANT an elemental themed expansion after Dragonflight? Which is just as much an elemental expansion as it as a dragon one - I would be genuinely disappointed personally

[PotHockets]

Here's a question

Does anyone actually WANT an elemental themed expansion after Dragonflight? I would be genuinely disappointed personally

I wouldn't outright hate it depending on what they do with it but yeah I'm pretty elementaled out at this point. Despite Teriz's claims to the contrary DF has been an elemental expansion through and through. I mean shit you could even make the argument that the four zones are themed to specific elements, then you throw in the Incarnates all being Elemental Lords but hot and getting a lighting/air raid and then an earth raid and now a fire raid and yeah. Elements need to cool off for a while or at best be a background story thread imo.

[Makabreska]

Nope, they're definitely mutated. They look like they're becoming more conceptual, like the "pseudo-life" in that zone. They even start to show patterns on the skin.

It is explicitly stated in one of the quest logs (or somewhere else in Zereth) that they are in fact falling apart due to exposure and consumption of ephemera.

[Dracullus]

If 11.0 is Avaloren, it's time for another leak. I see some people are on revamp train again, hangover could be massive if it last to Blizzcon xD.

[pacotaco]

It is explicitly stated in one of the quest logs (or somewhere else in Zereth) that they are in fact falling apart due to exposure and consumption of ephemera.

I'd need to replay them, it seems like I don't remember it

[Catastrophy349]

If 11.0 is Avaloren, it's time for another leak. I see some people are on revamp train again, hangover could be massive if it last to Blizzcon xD.

Hopefully, we'll get some "creative minds" to create a few "leaks" for us this coming week!

[Baraden]

I'd need to replay them, it seems like I don't remember it

Just do what most of us do; forget Shadowlands even happened - Blizzard will trust me