Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Palapop]

If a genuine world revamp and a revamp of all classic dungeons for M+ came at the cost of that expansion having one less raid; I would be completely fine with that

Let's not forget - a world revamp expansion would not need new zones on top of a revamp; cataclysm it was necessary because the map had gaps - now it doesn't

WoW has been a post cata world longer than it was the vanilla world; it's been over 10 years now - they NEED to update it for the longevity of the game

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If we do get an underground expansion; removing the sword and entering the mantle of azeroth via the wound seems the most plausible way - plus it would finally wrap up the sword plot

10 years? more like 15 years bruh
ok, ok... 14.

[Baraden]

10 years? more like 15 years bruh
ok, ok... 14.

Cata was december 2010; so we're just coming up to 13 years

Either way it's still longer than the vanilla version of the world existed - which is even more crazy given that all the zones in EK and Kalimdor now have been in a state of perpetual crisis after Deathwing just attacked... 13 years ago

[NoTimeToDie5426]

I remember people crying how MOP was childish... But man.... they made Chen look like a FERAL BEAST compared to ANY "ancient badass dragon" we're having in Wokeflight.

It brings me to tears :'(

Such a HUUUUUUUUGE potential expansion and theme.... thrown away to disneyland.

Agreed. Dragonflight feels like a Disneyy theme park as opposed to a WORLD of WARCRAFT.

[Catastrophy349]

I've never "not" been HYPE for an expansion announcement/release. Now, once some time has passed during an expansion on the other-hand... (depends on the expansion, of course).

[NoTimeToDie5426]

Acting like we didn't just commit a bunch of war crimes across the expac...

I'm not. I actually feel like this expac is made for Disney folk. Sorry you can't understand my position \/(-_-)\/

[Northelim]

There is simply too much in-game lore pointing at Avaloren.
There's an entire quest line where you just collect books and scolls, and a huge chunk of all of them point towards a forgotten or hidden land. Beyond that there are all the ancient volumes throughout Uldaman : Legacy of Tyr that mention the same things.

It's Avaloren, Khaz Algar, and Azshara. It's pretty much without question in my mind. It's happening now in 11.0 with the 20th anniversary. They can't put it off for another expansion. They need something that will pull in new players more than anything. New continents with new history are less alienating than abstract fights on different planes of existence.

You have to think about it as a business decision. Avaloren and the other side of the world is happening now.

I do believe that Avaloren is happening, but I do not believe it is the next expansion and I will explain why. As many hints and suggestions there are, Dragon isles was kind of similar. If you remember the legendary cloak questline in BFA where you talk to Wrathion on the balcony he says "Few have heard of the Dragon Isles, fewer have been there..." people 100% thought that a Dragon themed expansion was the next big thing. But then, BAM Shadowlands happend and Dragon Isles was saved for the expansion afterwards.

I believe we will be going Underground first somewhere in current Azeroth and not the other side yet and that is being saved for later. You are forgetting about Khaz Algar. Khaz is a dwarven classical name, Khaz Modan is a mountain where dwarves live, Khaz Algar sounds like another mountain with dwarves and some titan stuff. The Uldaman item/quest talks about it in the game in Dragonflight, I believe this is coming first BEFORE Avaloren.

Next month Trading Post is also full of Dwarven stuff.

[PotHockets]

Agreed. Dragonflight feels like a Disneyy theme park as opposed to a WORLD of WARCRAFT.

We must be going to very different Disney parks

[22mage22]

only khaz algar, not avaloren

[Yus atath]

Yeah we’re not getting a legit leak until Blizzcon day.

[PotHockets]

Yeah we’re not getting a legit leak until Blizzcon day.

We technically got the Algarian Stormrider but yeah everything else is pure larp

[Yus atath]

We technically got the Algarian Stormrider but yeah everything else is pure larp

And thats all we’re gonna be stuck with until Blizzcon

[D4NNYB0Y]

I do believe that Avaloren is happening, but I do not believe it is the next expansion and I will explain why. As many hints and suggestions there are, Dragon isles was kind of similar. If you remember the legendary cloak questline in BFA where you talk to Wrathion on the balcony he says "Few have heard of the Dragon Isles, fewer have been there..." people 100% thought that a Dragon themed expansion was the next big thing. But then, BAM Shadowlands happend and Dragon Isles was saved for the expansion afterwards.

I believe we will be going Underground first somewhere in current Azeroth and not the other side yet and that is being saved for later. You are forgetting about Khaz Algar. Khaz is a dwarven classical name, Khaz Modan is a mountain where dwarves live, Khaz Algar sounds like another mountain with dwarves and some titan stuff. The Uldaman item/quest talks about it in the game in Dragonflight, I believe this is coming first BEFORE Avaloren.

Next month Trading Post is also full of Dwarven stuff.

This is what I think they're doing as well. They typically hint to the expansion after the next expansion in-game. Avaloren seems too similar to DF thematically.

[Reive]

only khaz algar, not avaloren

post pics or fake

[Bossmonkey]

Why is everyone so convinced that Khaz Algar and Avaloren are in the same area? The two reports that mention them don't seem connected at all.

All we know is Algar is in some fissure, it could literally be anywhere.

[Palapop]

Acting like we didn't just commit a bunch of war crimes across the expac...

like what?

df is the ONLY expansion where I didnt level alts through questing (main storyline) because of how disgusting and out of touch with warcraft it is.

I can't remember of any quest where we had to bring someones head, hand, toe, finger, eye, foot... etc, etc, etc....

but we had to organize some gay marriage,
we had to bring bag of bunnies to "big bad powerful" green dragon whos actually allergic to bunnies (LOL!)
we had to rescue a pup from nasty random people who threatened to destroy a SPA!
we had to put bad students into corners
we had food fight
we had big bad ancient blue dragon, an aspect!.... having a bad cold and eating onion soup made by ms. Walrus....

Just beyond bad.

Look, I know WOW was always cartoonish and filled with Easter-eggs. BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT it was done with TASTE and in certain manner.
example: goblins in FH dungeon
night elf male wearing a costume of "mrrrrrglgll king"
steamy romance in HM
drunk dwarves
ratchet folks
booty bay and local quests
etc, etc, etc....

there was always bunch of "non-war" events/quests/npcs.... but they were done in WARCRAFT-STYLE.

The ones we have in DF are...... DISNEYCRAFT!

And thats why I'm extremely anxious about next expansion.

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Agreed. Dragonflight feels like a Disneyy theme park as opposed to a WORLD of WARCRAFT.

sometimes its even beyond disney lol

[Nibelheimy]

If not for the Algarian Stormrider I'd also believe Khaz'Aglar is not next but the expansion after.

Although, the tangled Dreamweaver being the DF heroic mount and we're only just visiting the dream, could lean to Khaz'Algar being the end patch of the next expansion too.

[Magistrate]

DISNEYCRAFT!

Oh god

[22mage22]

post pics or fake

if i was i would have already.

you all figured out the stormrider mount fast so i wont need to explain that

[PotHockets]

but we had to organize some gay marriage,

Is that a problem for you?

[D4NNYB0Y]

If not for the Algarian Stormrider I'd also believe Khaz'Aglar is not next but the expansion after.

Although, the tangled Dreamweaver being the DF heroic mount and we're only just visiting the dream, could lean to Khaz'Algar being the end patch of the next expansion too.

I think Khaz Algar is going to be the hub. Algarian Stormrider is the preorder mount. Similar to the wyrm mount in Shadowlands pointing to Oribos.