Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Wangming]

They absolutely would not add a new leveling zone for one (old) race. Exiles' reach is only 2 expansion's old.

Yes, but exile's reach sucks. It has zero racial identity and all it really tells you about your faction is that they are hopelessly inept without the player.

[Annihilas]

Really wish I didn't need to scroll through 200 pages of bickering and back and forth about wishlist "leaks", AI and calling others out, only to realising there was nothing of substance, relevance or discovery, so much so that time gets wasted. not cool guys...

[huth]

Wait, what will BlizzCon confirm?

The next expansion, obviously. But Worldshaper is a bit to certain of their pattern hypotheses even when it's really just post-hoc rationalisation.

[Chickat]

Idk I'd personally probably take a leak letting me down easy instead of the faceslap the SL cinematic was

Imagine if Sylvanas had put the crown on instead, and we only went into the Shadowlands as the final patch zone. SL is called something else and is Northrend revamp.

Revenge of the Banshee Queen.

[Nymrohd]

That would probably work better as a time travel xpac imo. Unless Azeroth gets re originated somehow.

We don't need Ancient Kalimdor to be able of continuous travel (and one map would probably be very problematic for so many reasons; there are probably engine limitations on the size of areas anyway)
Use the Zaralek technology to transition from map to map using sea borders; use skybox illusions for the neighbouring continent outlines and maybe fogbanks/storms.
Then you can join every map by water border proximity by extending the fatigue borders of the continents further using Island Expeditions. If you place Jorundall on either the EK or the Broken Isle map, you could have people flying from Stormheim to Jorundall and then to Silverpine; Gilneas could have multiple islands below it (the channel isles) with Tol Barad, Zul'dare and Crestfall forming a line that leads you to Kul Tiras. Zandalar can be linked to Pandaria with Snowblossom Isle. You really can just connect the entire known areas by using Island Expeditions as stops.

[huth]

Yes, but exile's reach sucks. It has zero racial identity and all it really tells you about your faction is that they are hopelessly inept without the player.

Of course not. It isn't there to tell you about the story. They'd have to constantly change it if it did.

[Chickat]

I do believe that Avaloren is happening, but I do not believe it is the next expansion and I will explain why. As many hints and suggestions there are, Dragon isles was kind of similar. If you remember the legendary cloak questline in BFA where you talk to Wrathion on the balcony he says "Few have heard of the Dragon Isles, fewer have been there..." people 100% thought that a Dragon themed expansion was the next big thing. But then, BAM Shadowlands happend and Dragon Isles was saved for the expansion afterwards.

I believe we will be going Underground first somewhere in current Azeroth and not the other side yet and that is being saved for later. You are forgetting about Khaz Algar. Khaz is a dwarven classical name, Khaz Modan is a mountain where dwarves live, Khaz Algar sounds like another mountain with dwarves and some titan stuff. The Uldaman item/quest talks about it in the game in Dragonflight, I believe this is coming first BEFORE Avaloren.

Next month Trading Post is also full of Dwarven stuff.

I hope you are right tbh. I want Algar to be a small continent on its own or just a zone in a revamp xpac. We can do Avaloren in 12.0.

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only khaz algar, not avaloren

Oh look, they are back.

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new demon hunter spec is torment. dont look like support but not sure.
all race given shamans.
lands of conflicts are updated revamp like cata and textures
khaz algar new lands underground black stormy skybox and titan buildings opening hole in EK but go very deeper down to the center
new races in algar but customization for a lot of races. noticed no water races for algar. looks like might be a new patch for vashjir
new glyphs revamped new system like talent trees but in depth changes spells not power relating
small tree for races not power relating

I still dont buy this, but that sounds pretty cool NGL.

[Cherry123]

Wait, what will BlizzCon confirm?

new expansion
http://i.imgur.com/XCHUYUi.jpg

[Nymrohd]

I have to say, there is a difference between an area and its questlines introducing the character and culture of the locals and with it telling the history of the area. Cataclysm Tirisfal did a great job of telling you the character of the Forsaken; it gave you the many different archetypes that they belong to, cleanly defined. It did not need to focus on the history of the race to tell you what the race was about.

[Lady Atia]

Imagine if Sylvanas had put the crown on instead, and we only went into the Shadowlands as the final patch zone. SL is called something else and is Northrend revamp.

Revenge of the Banshee Queen.

No. Stop wanting expansion content being cut down to patch content. If the game wants to survive 20 more years maybe we shouldn't waste stuff that way anymore? Shadowlands was fine, lore AND zonewise, the only problem was the fucking content draught aswell as the initial dumb covenant restrictions and that they had to clear up the mess of BfA.

The only thing that could have been improved is Korthia, making it a real city, and maybe a side patch dealing with Thros.

[Chickat]

yeah. if @22mage22 is right, next expansion is going to end up like dragonflight.

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any new outdoor game modes? any mage tower/torghast-like features?

Not sure how you can call a revamp xpac a filler expansion just because it lacks player housing, but ok.

[ercarp]

new expansion
http://i.imgur.com/XCHUYUi.jpg

This looks pretty legit to me.

[Wangming]

I still dont buy this, but that sounds pretty cool NGL.

I don't buy it either, but the racial trees sound exciting.

[Chickat]

I think everyone is being hung up on the 20th anniversary- I was like that a couple weeks but remember this November is the 19th - next year is the 20th so 2025 is basically the year of the 20th anniversary.

Edit: this thread is not doing well haha - I feel like even with mages info we don’t have anything to go by or really any idea. Not sure if this a good or bad thing.

This might be the first time we are ever truly surprised at Blizzcon.

[Beerplz]

This looks pretty legit to me.

Time to add it to the sheet lmao

[Chickat]

I mean, thus far the theory is 100% correct, so I feel pretty confident about it.

It's funny though, because I know that once BlizzCon comes around and validates the theory again as a Voidy Cata 3.0 expansion is announced, people will still be saying there is no pattern there.

Eventually they will do something from left field and your pattern will break though.

[Nymrohd]

Btw ESO IS adding the Torghast/Island expedition solo/small group progression system
Endless Archives can be done solo, with your mercenary or with a friend, is endless and you are fighting waves of enemies using pretty much every type of enemy in the game; it goes 2 trash waves and then 1 boss and they are releasing it with over 60 different bosses using the models and abilites of a variety of world bosses and dungeon bosses. Goes without saying for ESO that it rewards gear and cosmetics.

[pacotaco]

So basically what you guys are saying is that future lore might place Uldaz somewhere in the vicinity of northern Kalimdor. Say, for example, that Khaz Algar sits off the west coast of Darkshore, beyond Teldrassil, and underneath the large region that is Khaz Algar + Darkshore etc., there's where you'll find the titan facility + dead 5th Old God.

I don't discard that Uldaz is the tie-in patch ala Timeless Isle that kickstarts the events of the next expansion. Putting it north Kalimdor, pointing us towards the west lands beyond the sea would be foreshadowing.

[Nymrohd]

I don't buy it either, but the racial trees sound exciting.

I think we've discussed it here as well; instead of having specific racials, remove any racials that add throughput and then add a large number of racials to each race and let people pick 3-4 out of them.

[Chickat]

No. Stop wanting expansion content being cut down to patch content. If the game wants to survive 20 more years maybe we shouldn't waste stuff that way anymore? Shadowlands was fine, lore AND zonewise, the only problem was the fucking content draught aswell as the initial dumb covenant restrictions and that they had to clear up the mess of BfA.

The only thing that could have been improved is Korthia, making it a real city, and maybe a side patch dealing with Thros.

Did you really just say the only thing that could be improved in SL was Korthia. lmao.

The SL i mentioned would have way less lore problems, and would keep death a mystery which is good for the franchise PLUS keeps it open to do an actual Shadowlands in the future too.